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Considering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…"
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That could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won."
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I think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.' | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect"
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Waiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'"
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Arizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the "Big Lie". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught."
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Well most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy."
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I’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance
The cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit."
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I work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding"
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Well that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it?
By branding the ACA as "Obamacare," the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in "Obama bad" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.
There are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying "this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person." | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing."
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Well that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses? | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\""
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?"
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How so | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now"
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Republicans are going to raise holy hell | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so"
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Lol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell"
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Would help if the media quit covering their outrage as news. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction."
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Terrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news."
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AZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win."
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2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays"
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Get in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple."
] |
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she was also the winner before the recount:
>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.
I only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims."
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I’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything."
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If I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die."
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at that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason."
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One step at a time is how we move away from the brink. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol."
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"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!" | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink."
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Have the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\""
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All the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have."
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They won before the recount. The recount just confirms it. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss"
] |
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I know it's really picky but she didn't win "after" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it."
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They now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory."
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Misleading headline.
She was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.
So she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold."
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This is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner."
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I mean, she won it before the recount as well. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs"
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As good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.” | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well."
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Those of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up! | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”"
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How is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!"
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I did my part but my district still has Gosar | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan."
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I’m sorry for your loss | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar"
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We can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.
COVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss"
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking"
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good less power republicans have the better | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better"
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Good on you Arizona. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!"
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I worked on some of her television ads! Good for her! | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona."
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This last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!"
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The one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism."
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Yeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages."
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Another win for the good guys! | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now."
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Lawsuit in 5...4...3... | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!"
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3..."
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Now root out the treason and traitors in your state | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered."
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Who was she running against? A trump backed republican or? | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state"
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Arizona today, texas soon... | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?"
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It's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :( | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon..."
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Sadly, too true. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :("
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Was that recount #1,2,or 3 ? | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true."
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Won before it too | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?"
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Thank god | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too"
] |
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HAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race.
Glad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god"
] |
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Winning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards."
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Damn those Italian satellites are still working | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too"
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This is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!?? | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working"
] |
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Everybody should thank Kari Lake for the win. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??"
] |
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This drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?"
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And the losers just keep losing. Love it. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!"
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Truth does Prevail | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it."
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I’m so proud of my state | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail"
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Yes Democrats still winning!! | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state"
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I'm so tired of all this winning. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!"
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The Meth politicians loose again. Yay! | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning."
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Oh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight… | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!"
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We could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.
It's so crazy it was that close. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…"
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Still crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close."
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The real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…"
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what's your definition of woke? | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones."
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The one that makes you go broke | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?"
] |
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Where are the Q ninjas? | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke"
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Did you expect anything else? | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?"
] |
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Had plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?"
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Take the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it."
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I’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.
Especially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game."
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Most places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky."
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100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage
(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.
(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.
A house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy."
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It actually didn’t change the outcome in this case. It only confirmed the victory. 2.4 million people voted in Arizona in the last election, 100 votes is 0.000041666666667%. Its an imperfect world which is why we have recounts when it’s very close. It’s also important to note that very seldom do recounts change the results. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy.",
">\n\n\n100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage\n\n(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.\n(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.\nA house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy.",
">\n\n\n100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage\n\n(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.\n(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.\nA house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate.",
">\n\nIt actually didn’t change the outcome in this case. It only confirmed the victory. 2.4 million people voted in Arizona in the last election, 100 votes is 0.000041666666667%. Its an imperfect world which is why we have recounts when it’s very close. It’s also important to note that very seldom do recounts change the results."
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy.",
">\n\n\n100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage\n\n(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.\n(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.\nA house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate.",
">\n\nIt actually didn’t change the outcome in this case. It only confirmed the victory. 2.4 million people voted in Arizona in the last election, 100 votes is 0.000041666666667%. Its an imperfect world which is why we have recounts when it’s very close. It’s also important to note that very seldom do recounts change the results.",
">\n\nWhat about Second Recount? Or Recountsies? Do they know about mid afternoon Recounts?"
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no one cares who one it is or what they’ve done.
No, I'm pretty sure people are happy a trump endorsed moron didn't get the spot. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy.",
">\n\n\n100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage\n\n(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.\n(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.\nA house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate.",
">\n\nIt actually didn’t change the outcome in this case. It only confirmed the victory. 2.4 million people voted in Arizona in the last election, 100 votes is 0.000041666666667%. Its an imperfect world which is why we have recounts when it’s very close. It’s also important to note that very seldom do recounts change the results.",
">\n\nWhat about Second Recount? Or Recountsies? Do they know about mid afternoon Recounts?",
">\n\nIncoming republican firestorm of ‘sToLEn ElECtiOns’ in 3-2-1"
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“That recount was rigged, we are going to do a re-recount to confirm that we actually won in the initial count” - whoever lost that attorney general race
Edit: I didn’t read the article and assumed that the result was changed after the recount. But it was just reconfirmed. And if anything it was closer than it was before. Title is misleading. Could also say “democrat almost loses Arizona attorney general race after recount” | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy.",
">\n\n\n100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage\n\n(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.\n(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.\nA house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate.",
">\n\nIt actually didn’t change the outcome in this case. It only confirmed the victory. 2.4 million people voted in Arizona in the last election, 100 votes is 0.000041666666667%. Its an imperfect world which is why we have recounts when it’s very close. It’s also important to note that very seldom do recounts change the results.",
">\n\nWhat about Second Recount? Or Recountsies? Do they know about mid afternoon Recounts?",
">\n\nIncoming republican firestorm of ‘sToLEn ElECtiOns’ in 3-2-1",
">\n\n\nno one cares who one it is or what they’ve done.\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure people are happy a trump endorsed moron didn't get the spot."
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Nah, title is accurate. I mean, it could also say "democrat solidifies victory over political opponent who lost the initial count and the subsequent recount," but that'd be as uselessly editorial as your version. | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy.",
">\n\n\n100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage\n\n(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.\n(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.\nA house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate.",
">\n\nIt actually didn’t change the outcome in this case. It only confirmed the victory. 2.4 million people voted in Arizona in the last election, 100 votes is 0.000041666666667%. Its an imperfect world which is why we have recounts when it’s very close. It’s also important to note that very seldom do recounts change the results.",
">\n\nWhat about Second Recount? Or Recountsies? Do they know about mid afternoon Recounts?",
">\n\nIncoming republican firestorm of ‘sToLEn ElECtiOns’ in 3-2-1",
">\n\n\nno one cares who one it is or what they’ve done.\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure people are happy a trump endorsed moron didn't get the spot.",
">\n\n“That recount was rigged, we are going to do a re-recount to confirm that we actually won in the initial count” - whoever lost that attorney general race\nEdit: I didn’t read the article and assumed that the result was changed after the recount. But it was just reconfirmed. And if anything it was closer than it was before. Title is misleading. Could also say “democrat almost loses Arizona attorney general race after recount”"
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"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy.",
">\n\n\n100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage\n\n(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.\n(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.\nA house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate.",
">\n\nIt actually didn’t change the outcome in this case. It only confirmed the victory. 2.4 million people voted in Arizona in the last election, 100 votes is 0.000041666666667%. Its an imperfect world which is why we have recounts when it’s very close. It’s also important to note that very seldom do recounts change the results.",
">\n\nWhat about Second Recount? Or Recountsies? Do they know about mid afternoon Recounts?",
">\n\nIncoming republican firestorm of ‘sToLEn ElECtiOns’ in 3-2-1",
">\n\n\nno one cares who one it is or what they’ve done.\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure people are happy a trump endorsed moron didn't get the spot.",
">\n\n“That recount was rigged, we are going to do a re-recount to confirm that we actually won in the initial count” - whoever lost that attorney general race\nEdit: I didn’t read the article and assumed that the result was changed after the recount. But it was just reconfirmed. And if anything it was closer than it was before. Title is misleading. Could also say “democrat almost loses Arizona attorney general race after recount”",
">\n\nNah, title is accurate. I mean, it could also say \"democrat solidifies victory over political opponent who lost the initial count and the subsequent recount,\" but that'd be as uselessly editorial as your version."
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If y'all actually cared about illegal immigrants, how come you guys never go after the ones who hire illegal immigrants?
Don't want to go after your own party I bet | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy.",
">\n\n\n100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage\n\n(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.\n(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.\nA house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate.",
">\n\nIt actually didn’t change the outcome in this case. It only confirmed the victory. 2.4 million people voted in Arizona in the last election, 100 votes is 0.000041666666667%. Its an imperfect world which is why we have recounts when it’s very close. It’s also important to note that very seldom do recounts change the results.",
">\n\nWhat about Second Recount? Or Recountsies? Do they know about mid afternoon Recounts?",
">\n\nIncoming republican firestorm of ‘sToLEn ElECtiOns’ in 3-2-1",
">\n\n\nno one cares who one it is or what they’ve done.\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure people are happy a trump endorsed moron didn't get the spot.",
">\n\n“That recount was rigged, we are going to do a re-recount to confirm that we actually won in the initial count” - whoever lost that attorney general race\nEdit: I didn’t read the article and assumed that the result was changed after the recount. But it was just reconfirmed. And if anything it was closer than it was before. Title is misleading. Could also say “democrat almost loses Arizona attorney general race after recount”",
">\n\nNah, title is accurate. I mean, it could also say \"democrat solidifies victory over political opponent who lost the initial count and the subsequent recount,\" but that'd be as uselessly editorial as your version.",
">\n\nJust what AZ needs: More support for illegal border crossings. But hey, it’s their state."
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this is a perfect example of what’s wrong with american politics. no one cares who one it is or what they’ve done. people just care about weather they are a democrat or a republican | [
"This is why every vote matters\nCongratulations to the people of Arizona",
">\n\nThank goodness Katie Hobbs was in charge of her own election. It’s much easier to win for yourself and your party when you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!",
">\n\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nCitation needed. You know who is to blame? Conservative mouthpieces telling their base to vote last minute when problems can arise. Newsflash to all: early voting works! :)\nAlso, should be noted that across the state there were major Republican election officials who corroborate the integrity of the election.",
">\n\nYou know you're grasping at straws when your argument is \"telling people to vote is disenfranchisement\" LOL you made me laugh",
">\n\nSo, to be clear:\n\nStill no source.\nNo recognition of the failed anti-early voting propaganda from the right that backfired amusingly. \nNo recognition to the numerous state election republican officials who backed the integrity of the elections. (I'd be surprised if you could name them). \nNo recognition to the countless failed court challenges.",
">\n\nI'm a fan of short voting lines across the board. That's why I encourage everyone to do the legal, safe, effective early-voting. Republicans should have done the same. \nLong lines disenfranchise all. I'm sure many dems were in those lines, too.\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\nThe judge agrees with me: you can't make accusations about intention without evidence. That would be irresponsible and baseless. If it didn't matter, you and Lake wouldn't be trying to shoehorn in the intentional part. Especially considering this impacts all voters, not just Republicans.\nAlso wait, do you want Hobbs to be hands-on, or hands-off the election? Can't blame her for being in charge while running for governor and then also want her to run it closely and not delegate responsibilities to someone else (which she largely did; see Bill Gates).",
">\n\n\nAlso, this does not substantiate your claim that Hobbs intentionally did this lol.\n\nMaybe you're mistaking me with somebody else, but I never made this claim and I don't care if it was intentional or not.\nIf somebody unintentionally rigs an election... call me old fashioned but I say that's bad! I never said it was intentional. At best, it was negligence... but who knows if it was intentional or not!?",
">\n\nAgain, quoting you:\n\nwhen you purposefully screw things up for voters causing 2+ hour lines and disenfranchising thousands of citizens voting on Election Day. With leadership like Katie I’m sure Democrats will keep winning for a long time!\n\nSynonymous with intentional. Also, again: Republican election officials from Richter to Gates corroborate the integrity of the election. Also, again, no group was targeted since all groups were in those lines. \nAlso, voting lines are often long and yes should be addressed. There would be less lines if Republicans were encouraged to use the system in place in Arizona that is literally a model for the country. That's not the fault of Hobbs that misinformation among Republicans abounds and adds strain to a system that shouldn't need to be strained.",
">\n\nNegligence is purposeful, but that doesn’t mean it’s an intentional action.\nThe lines weren’t 2-3 hours because there were a lot of people. Those lines were there because of a failure in administration, oversight, testing, etc. (i.e. responsibilities of the SOS)",
">\n\n\nRepublican attorneys are going to look through the numbers again and see if there's any grounds to do anything going forward\n\nRelentless.",
">\n\nEhh.\nI support everyone's right to exhaust every legal avenue. If the Republican won by one vote, I'd support the Democrats' right to see if it can be legally overturned, too.\nThe problem is the extrajudicial bullshit the Republicans are trying, not legitimate legal challenges.",
">\n\nWhat legal avenues are there after the recount? Just keep recounting until they get a result they like?",
">\n\nI'm not a lawyer, so I don't know exactly.\nBut if--and that's a big hypothetical \"if\", not something I actually believe happened--for example there were an unusually large discrepancy in the recount, that might be worth challenging. If there's evidence that vote-counters were openly partisan, that might be worth challenging. Hell, if there's evidence that illegal voter suppression caused a significant shift from polling, that might be worth challenging.\nThe point is, if there are legal avenues, it's everyone's right to explore them. The problem is not challenging the results of the election through established legal means, it's challenging the results of the election outside of those established legal avenues.",
">\n\nEvery time they dig into investigating that stuff, they find more wrongdoing on the Republican side, and then try to brush the whole thing under the rug.",
">\n\nI'm not denying that. The point I'm trying to make is that the system must hold. If we want to be able to challenge Republican bullshit, we need to let the Republicans challenge whatever it's legal for them to challenge too. The moment we tell them no, we have zero defense against them telling us no too. In the meantime, the courts will throw out the bullshit.",
">\n\nOh, I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. The system must indeed hold. I was just pointing out that when they do fight it, it always ends up worse for them.",
">\n\n\n”My legal team will be assessing our options to make sure every vote is counted,” wrote Hamadeh, who hasn’t conceded to Mayes.\n\nFor fuck’s sake, THEY JUST COUNTED EVERY VOTE. That’s what a recount is, you absolute fucking DONKEY.",
">\n\nWell, the deficit was almost cut in half after the recount. At this rate, theyd have to recount it an infinite amount of times for it to be super close.",
">\n\nKnow your limits",
">\n\nMy understanding is that this is also the first state level election where the excess death rate of Covid on Republicans likely led to a Democratic victory. The more you know…",
">\n\nConsidering the margin she won by? Yeah, if the Republicans actually pushed their base to embrace proper health measures then they would have won.",
">\n\nThat could probably be said for a wider national look. Hopefully a study comes out in a couple of years on the Covid effect",
">\n\nI think that the Repubs could lose a substantial number of their older die-hard voters over just the next couple of years based on the resistance of many of them to masking and vaccinations. Plus in any year, you'll always have the expected mortality from heart disease, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, accidents, etc. And even some of the younger ones look like health-disasters-waiting-to-happen, i.e. 'Gravy Seals' and 'Meal Team Six.'",
">\n\nWaiting for either evil or idiots to die doesn't usually go well. I've been hearing that far too long and know too many young conservatives, this is not something that just dies off. They must be fought or taught.",
">\n\nArizona has started realizing how much the GOP has screwed them. Unlike Texas, the state has started getting wise and sadly when John McCain died and Trump and company turned on his family and their narrative since he by one vote kept them from repelling the Affordable Health Care Act. When they didn't have a DAMN THING to replace it. Arizona didn't like that and while so many held on with the \"Big Lie\". Now with Lake and company losing so much and all the former GOP government pretty much trying to scorch Earth as they leave. I can see major change for the state. I know my family down there is very happy.",
">\n\nWell most people agree that the Affordable care act is a good thing. Even the red Republican. That's if you call it the ACA. But call it Obama Care no it's bad. What these people are doing is playing on the uneducated not knowing anything. The good thing is things should be going into the right direction. Especially after lake lost her election and election lawsuit.",
">\n\nI’ve literally seen people say Obamacare is bad but they’re glad they have the ACA to provide them health insurance\nThe cognitive dissonance in republicans is astounding",
">\n\nI work at the University monitoring classes. One the them was a history instructor. She said that they did a survey and highlighting everything that the ACA did. But what they did was changed the name. People viewed ACA more favorably when it was called the ACA over Obamacare. It is astonishing.",
">\n\nWell that was basically the point of that branding, wasn't it? \nBy branding the ACA as \"Obamacare,\" the GQP had a very easy time energizing and enraging their voters. They spent so much time to basically hammer in \"Obama bad\" so that by getting people to associate something fundamentally good with someone they hate, the GQP could gain power.\nThere are and were content-oriented critiques of the ACA. But those didn't matter much to the GQP because those critiques would require explaining nuances and their audience having a rudimentary understanding of healthcare law. It is much harder to get a primal reaction with that than it is to get one from saying \"this person bad and evil, this come from bad and evil person.\"",
">\n\nWell that's encouraging. Maybe AZ is rounding a corner and coming to it's senses?",
">\n\nNaw, shits gonna hit the fan now",
">\n\nHow so",
">\n\nRepublicans are going to raise holy hell",
">\n\nLol who cares, they get mad about fictional characters being the wrong race. Impotent outrage is their addiction.",
">\n\nWould help if the media quit covering their outrage as news.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. The Democrat won BEFORE the recount, and framing the story the way they did implies the recount was responsible for the win.",
">\n\nAZ lookin a Lil purplish nowadays",
">\n\n2 elections in a row Dems won, definitely purple.",
">\n\nGet in here, we’re using Republican tears to salt our margarita rims.",
">\n\nshe was also the winner before the recount:\n>Mayes (D) finished 280 votes ahead of Hamadeh (R), down from a lead of 511 in the original count. The reason for the discrepancy was not immediately clear.\nI only added the D and R for distinction in the above quote. So the recount narrowed her lead, but not enough to change anything.",
">\n\nI’m no conspiracy theorist, but if I were, I’d think the Biden administration backed off on Covid regulations knowing that it would cause a disproportionate number of republicans to die.",
">\n\nIf I were a conspiracy theorist, I’d speculate that democrats have been pushing idiocy on republicans for about 50 years, ensuring that democrat kids will outsurvive and outcompete republican kids. But I’m not, and in reality republicans did that for some reason.",
">\n\nat that point you are just admitting to being stupid and gullible with extra steps lol.",
">\n\nOne step at a time is how we move away from the brink.",
">\n\n\"StOp tHe sTeAL!!!1!!!\"",
">\n\nHave the snowflakes on the right started crying about a stolen election yet? Of course they have.",
">\n\nAll the usual bots are in Hamadeh's feed crying and accusing everyone of everything... So, typical GQP loss antics. I wonder if the SC didn't insert themselves into the Gore/Bush results, if the GQP would've adopted this as a strategy to every loss",
">\n\nThey won before the recount. The recount just confirms it.",
">\n\nI know it's really picky but she didn't win \"after\" the recount. She'd already won. The recount affirmed the victory.",
">\n\nThey now have a Democratic governor, attorney general, and Secretary of State, plus a Democratic Senator. Beautiful for a state that used to be considered a Republican stronghold.",
">\n\nMisleading headline.\nShe was already ahead by 511 votes before the recount. After the recount she was 208 votes ahead.\nSo she had already won, but due to how Arizona's election laws are, the small margin prompted a recount to affirm the winner.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Unfortunately it's only more imaginary ammunition for right wing nutjobs",
">\n\nI mean, she won it before the recount as well.",
">\n\nAs good as that news is, what a shame that the state’s new superintendent of public instruction is a raving right-winger who “promised to shut down any hint of ‘critical race theory’.”",
">\n\nThose of you who don't vote because you think it doesn't make any difference need to wake up!",
">\n\nHow is Arizona becoming better than Texas now?! Congrats AZ. From a jealous Texan.",
">\n\nI did my part but my district still has Gosar",
">\n\nI’m sorry for your loss",
">\n\nWe can all thank COVID-19 for this as the margin of Republicans vs. Democrats who unnecessarily died from the virus due to their suicidal politics is far larger than the margin here.\nCOVID-19 is the ultimate Republican self-own.",
">\n\nThe shucky ducky margin.",
">\n\nCue republican shrieking",
">\n\nNow go prosecute the fake electors and their abettors.",
">\n\ngood less power republicans have the better",
">\n\nWhoohooo!",
">\n\nGood on you Arizona.",
">\n\nI worked on some of her television ads! Good for her!",
">\n\nThis last election gave me a little hope that our country isn't yet sliding into fascism.",
">\n\nThe one race that was definitely decided by Republicans intentional antipathy to Covid vaccines.",
">\n\nYeah, well check out the founder of “body for life” bill Phillips. I have friends that train almost everyday, and almost died. Yes, being obese is a co-morbidity, but there are fit people that got hit hard also. I know orca-fat people that had mild symptoms also.",
">\n\nPhew! That should slow down their GOP's march to the middle ages.",
">\n\nRecounts. So hot right now.",
">\n\nAnother win for the good guys!",
">\n\nLawsuit in 5...4...3...",
">\n\nOnce again, no bamboo ballots were discovered.",
">\n\nNow root out the treason and traitors in your state",
">\n\nWho was she running against? A trump backed republican or?",
">\n\nArizona today, texas soon...",
">\n\nIt's going to be too late for a LOT of women/LGBTQ folks in Texas :(",
">\n\nSadly, too true.",
">\n\nWas that recount #1,2,or 3 ?",
">\n\nWon before it too",
">\n\nThank god",
">\n\nHAH! I was buds with the loser, Hamadeh in college and I have no idea what happened to him. It was a pleasure to vote against him and I like to fantasize I and my family may have been the ones to tip the race. \nGlad to see him lose but like most wealthy I'm betting we're going to see him fail upwards.",
">\n\nWinning it twice. She was ahead in the OG count too",
">\n\nDamn those Italian satellites are still working",
">\n\nThis is BS! Obviously the loser Kari Lake won, election fraud is everywhere how can't you see it?!??",
">\n\nEverybody should thank Kari Lake for the win.",
">\n\nThis drama would have not happened if they just used modern counting systems instead of people who looked like they haven’t been outside in days.",
">\n\nDoes this mean the student debt forgiveness lawsuit will get dropped?",
">\n\nOwned Republicons!",
">\n\nAnd the losers just keep losing. Love it.",
">\n\nTruth does Prevail",
">\n\nI’m so proud of my state",
">\n\nYes Democrats still winning!!",
">\n\nI'm so tired of all this winning.",
">\n\nThe Meth politicians loose again. Yay!",
">\n\nOh, that won’t be the end of it. Lawsuit incoming in ten, nine, eight…",
">\n\nWe could probably get 200 people here on reddit who have voted for her, including myself.\nIt's so crazy it was that close.",
">\n\nStill crazy to me that you guys in the US get to elect state attorneys.",
">\n\nThe real problem with electing state attorneys is that they are completely independent and report to no one. An attorney is supposed to represent clients - but these elected attorneys get to pick what cases they want to be involved with and can act independently, even if everyone else in the state government disagrees with the positions they take.",
">\n\nYeah that makes sense…",
">\n\nLet’s hope she’s one of the good ones and not them woke ones.",
">\n\nwhat's your definition of woke?",
">\n\nThe one that makes you go broke",
">\n\nWhere are the Q ninjas?",
">\n\nDid you expect anything else?",
">\n\nHad plenty of time to pack those ballot boxes after legal voting closed. Gotta love it.",
">\n\nTake the w, now pay close attention, you team sport Republican voters- think about what you actually care about and focus on what gets done with these slimy Q fuckheads at the helm, and how much is addressed. This isn’t a fucking game.",
">\n\nI’m glad at the result, but I have to admit it bothers me a bit that we apparently suck so much at accounting for votes that our tally can change by hundreds during a recount.\nEspecially since a system that detail-blind could create opportunity for electoral fraud or other hanky panky.",
">\n\nMost places have automatic or offer recounts when the results are very close. Otherwise it doesn’t really matter. 100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage. This is proof of the dedication to accuracy.",
">\n\n\n100 of votes out of 100,000 or a million votes is a very low percentage\n\n(1) It doesn’t really matter how low a percentage it is if you have majority races that are decided that narrowly. It will change an outcome in a race that’s 200 votes apart if you can’t keep track of votes to the nearest 200.\n(2) That’s not actually good accuracy compared to what should be reasonably achievable from moderately competent people running a well designed system.\nA house costs >$100,000. If your mortgage company charged you an extra hundred here or there would you think that was good accounting on their part? Would you be satisfied with their service if they kept reporting different numbers each time you asked your remaining balance for the month? It’s not like the technology doesn’t exist to be more accurate.",
">\n\nIt actually didn’t change the outcome in this case. It only confirmed the victory. 2.4 million people voted in Arizona in the last election, 100 votes is 0.000041666666667%. Its an imperfect world which is why we have recounts when it’s very close. It’s also important to note that very seldom do recounts change the results.",
">\n\nWhat about Second Recount? Or Recountsies? Do they know about mid afternoon Recounts?",
">\n\nIncoming republican firestorm of ‘sToLEn ElECtiOns’ in 3-2-1",
">\n\n\nno one cares who one it is or what they’ve done.\n\nNo, I'm pretty sure people are happy a trump endorsed moron didn't get the spot.",
">\n\n“That recount was rigged, we are going to do a re-recount to confirm that we actually won in the initial count” - whoever lost that attorney general race\nEdit: I didn’t read the article and assumed that the result was changed after the recount. But it was just reconfirmed. And if anything it was closer than it was before. Title is misleading. Could also say “democrat almost loses Arizona attorney general race after recount”",
">\n\nNah, title is accurate. I mean, it could also say \"democrat solidifies victory over political opponent who lost the initial count and the subsequent recount,\" but that'd be as uselessly editorial as your version.",
">\n\nJust what AZ needs: More support for illegal border crossings. But hey, it’s their state.",
">\n\nIf y'all actually cared about illegal immigrants, how come you guys never go after the ones who hire illegal immigrants?\nDon't want to go after your own party I bet"
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