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[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation...." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile.", ">\n\nThere's something I don't understand.\nHow come China is letting infected people board planes AND ALSO imposes these draconic lockdowns that we've seen so many videos of? How are they doing both?" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile.", ">\n\nThere's something I don't understand.\nHow come China is letting infected people board planes AND ALSO imposes these draconic lockdowns that we've seen so many videos of? How are they doing both?", ">\n\nThey've stopped lockdowns as they move away from their zero-Covid policy failure." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile.", ">\n\nThere's something I don't understand.\nHow come China is letting infected people board planes AND ALSO imposes these draconic lockdowns that we've seen so many videos of? How are they doing both?", ">\n\nThey've stopped lockdowns as they move away from their zero-Covid policy failure.", ">\n\nWow, somehow I completely missed that entire thing. Thanks" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile.", ">\n\nThere's something I don't understand.\nHow come China is letting infected people board planes AND ALSO imposes these draconic lockdowns that we've seen so many videos of? How are they doing both?", ">\n\nThey've stopped lockdowns as they move away from their zero-Covid policy failure.", ">\n\nWow, somehow I completely missed that entire thing. Thanks", ">\n\nThat sounds like a plan that has no downsides" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile.", ">\n\nThere's something I don't understand.\nHow come China is letting infected people board planes AND ALSO imposes these draconic lockdowns that we've seen so many videos of? How are they doing both?", ">\n\nThey've stopped lockdowns as they move away from their zero-Covid policy failure.", ">\n\nWow, somehow I completely missed that entire thing. Thanks", ">\n\nThat sounds like a plan that has no downsides", ">\n\nGOOD!!! the Chinese people deserve more! You brits destroyed that wonderful nation, and now it's up to glorious Don' to summon other worldly beats from another dimension to annihilate all non-believers snd restore it to a Christian nation. God bless America and hail Jesus crhist" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile.", ">\n\nThere's something I don't understand.\nHow come China is letting infected people board planes AND ALSO imposes these draconic lockdowns that we've seen so many videos of? How are they doing both?", ">\n\nThey've stopped lockdowns as they move away from their zero-Covid policy failure.", ">\n\nWow, somehow I completely missed that entire thing. Thanks", ">\n\nThat sounds like a plan that has no downsides", ">\n\nGOOD!!! the Chinese people deserve more! You brits destroyed that wonderful nation, and now it's up to glorious Don' to summon other worldly beats from another dimension to annihilate all non-believers snd restore it to a Christian nation. God bless America and hail Jesus crhist", ">\n\nHail Jesus !! These inter dimensional folk are NO GOOD!! 💪🙌🔜📍😨🙏😃" ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile.", ">\n\nThere's something I don't understand.\nHow come China is letting infected people board planes AND ALSO imposes these draconic lockdowns that we've seen so many videos of? How are they doing both?", ">\n\nThey've stopped lockdowns as they move away from their zero-Covid policy failure.", ">\n\nWow, somehow I completely missed that entire thing. Thanks", ">\n\nThat sounds like a plan that has no downsides", ">\n\nGOOD!!! the Chinese people deserve more! You brits destroyed that wonderful nation, and now it's up to glorious Don' to summon other worldly beats from another dimension to annihilate all non-believers snd restore it to a Christian nation. God bless America and hail Jesus crhist", ">\n\nHail Jesus !! These inter dimensional folk are NO GOOD!! 💪🙌🔜📍😨🙏😃", ">\n\nWell, they seem to be carrying on with their \"wrong way to go\" strategy. Been working so well for them." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile.", ">\n\nThere's something I don't understand.\nHow come China is letting infected people board planes AND ALSO imposes these draconic lockdowns that we've seen so many videos of? How are they doing both?", ">\n\nThey've stopped lockdowns as they move away from their zero-Covid policy failure.", ">\n\nWow, somehow I completely missed that entire thing. Thanks", ">\n\nThat sounds like a plan that has no downsides", ">\n\nGOOD!!! the Chinese people deserve more! You brits destroyed that wonderful nation, and now it's up to glorious Don' to summon other worldly beats from another dimension to annihilate all non-believers snd restore it to a Christian nation. God bless America and hail Jesus crhist", ">\n\nHail Jesus !! These inter dimensional folk are NO GOOD!! 💪🙌🔜📍😨🙏😃", ">\n\nWell, they seem to be carrying on with their \"wrong way to go\" strategy. Been working so well for them.", ">\n\nConsidering Milan,an outright ban would be appropriate." ]

[ "It's the sensible thing to do, so of course we're not going to do it. I swear nothing works here any more.", ">\n\nThink of the Universities. How would they survive if their Chinese consumers weren't allowed back?", ">\n\nI know this is tongue-in-cheek, but lets not muddy the waters. This is testing, not a travel ban. Anyone who tests negative should be free to travel (right now). FWIW, I think my own country (US) should be testing all travelers. Yes, the surge is in China right now, but as Chinese citizens are allowed to travel again, they could come through another country to the US/UK/wherever. And not to mention, I don't think covid cares about your nationality or skin color.", ">\n\nFew days ago there were post somewhere else on Reddit: 50% of people arriving to Milan from China have COVID. So… outright ban would make almost as much sense as not testing anyone.", ">\n\nA ban on flights from China makes zero sense unless everyone imposes the same ban. Furthermore, Italy just confirmed that sequencing of the positive test results showed that they all had Omicron variants that have been circulating for a long time in Europe.", ">\n\nI assure you that just because it would still be possible to leave China and end up in the UK, doesn't mean obstructions like banning direct flights would do nothing.", ">\n\nYou're not an epidemiologist. Science says selective travel bans are completely useless as a measure against a highly contagious pathogen. They only delay the inevitable for 3-4 days, but do not flatten the curve or anything.\nYou know which European country was the only one to ban direct flights from China in 2020? Italy. \nYou know which European country was the first to experience a surge in cases two months later? Italy.", ">\n\nI don’t think you understand science.", ">\n\nDo you want a do over pandemic? Because this is how you get a do over pandemic.", ">\n\nOf course they do. You have no idea how profitable it is!", ">\n\nMP’s mates with Garages full of wonky PPE to sell", ">\n\nI honestly don’t think so. We are experiencing one of the highest peak of Covid-19 in Sweden and the only thing people talk about is being more careful and making sure to stay home when they are sick.\nI think the world has moved on and will accept any number of Covid-19 cases unless the healthcare system breaks down from overload", ">\n\nThe NHS is basically already broken though. That's the point.", ">\n\nSo what is the difference?", ">\n\nI hope that Covid19 doesn't mutate. People got so weary of media talking and writing about it, no one takes it serious anymore. If now some deadly virus pandemic would happen, it would just wash over the country...", ">\n\nI just got it again a few days ago. Hardly anyone is social distancing or masks or avoiding groups of people. It’s like it never happened and I can tell you the current covid strain is nothing to sneeze at. It sucks and my entire family has it.", ">\n\nIt’s long been tradition to gather around all our friends and family during cold and flu season. The risk of just being sick isn’t a big motivator to stay relatively isolated for months or years on end. If we saw death rates akin to the first year of the pandemic people might change their tune.", ">\n\nIt's like chicken pox parties for adults!", ">\n\nIf you did in fact avoid the flu for decades it would be really rough when you eventually catch it.", ">\n\nIf you did, in fact, avoid ebola for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid mumps for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it.\nIf you did, in fact, avoid polio for decades it would be really rough for you when you eventually catch it. \nI mean, yeah, avoiding getting infected with diseases does tend to make it pretty bad when you do get infected but we haven't had syphilis parties since the 70s and we seem to be doing pretty well without them.", ">\n\nDo you think a flu vaccine with a lifetime 99% to 100% effectiveness is around the corner? Because we can't seem to crack 60% for one season.", ">\n\nI'm not telling you to avoid licking doorknobs, do what you like, I'm just pointing out the whole \"well if you don't get sick now you'll get sicker later\" line of thinking. I'll leave it to you to get sick now if you want, personally I'd like to put it off for the next 30 to 40 years.\nAlso, standard covid precautions seem to be pretty damned effective against the flu since I haven't gotten the flu in close to 4 years now. But then I was never a fan of sitting in movie theaters, crowds, or airplane rides to start with.", ">\n\nI personally enjoy sitting down for a meal with family for the holidays which is a huge risk for contracting flu or covid. If you want to avoid the flu for forty years be sure to never be unmasked around someone for at least 4 months out of the year.", ">\n\nMy family is pretty good about now showing up to group events when they're feeling under the weather or likely to have been exposed to something contagious. My circle of friends is similarly pretty responsible in that regard. \nI am sorry, however, to hear that your family presents such a significant risk and it's my hope that they learn to take more care with the health of those they spend time with.", ">\n\nHow is it possible for countries to learn NOTHING from YEARS of a huge pandemic???? I really can't figure out what is going through the heads of the people that are controlling this world...", ">\n\nThis isnt just the UK either.\nUK and France say no plans currently to follow Italy with Covid tests for China arrivals. German, Portuguese and Austrian officials also reluctant to introduce new measures", ">\n\nits another population culling. There is only one reason you would grossly incompetently do nothing about this.", ">\n\nAn island nation not giving a shit about this is scary...\nWho's running things?", ">\n\nThey're known as Tories but they haven't been running shit for c. 12 years. They are a stain on the UK.", ">\n\nAnd yet people still vote for them.", ">\n\nIt's really difficult to say what is the sensible thing to do at the moment, all major covid virus variants have spread all over the world despite all efforts.\nThe UK has good vaccine coverage and many have recently been infected, resources might be better used for other things than testing.", ">\n\nThe sensible thing to do is to just carry on as normal, while vaccinating the vulnerable, as we do with flu.\nWe're all gonna catch COVID again and again for the rest of our lives... No point trying to avoid it in any way.", ">\n\nThe issue is reinfection is starting to disable people, so that route may not be a sensible option.", ">\n\nSource?", ">\n\nMy bet is it won't make a difference. If a new variant emerges, it will spread to everywhere, whether they implement any curbs on arrivals from China or not. The only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. No one is going to do that at this stage of the pandemic.", ">\n\n\nThe only way to be safe would be to quarantine all arrivals including citizens. \n\nguess what, that's exactly what china was doing, and they gave up because omicron still penetrated through the defenses. If china, with their absolute control over their citizens, cannot do it, the rest of the world doesn't stand a chance at all.", ">\n\nThe real fuck up is that did work for two years in which they could’ve prepared for the “what next” that wasn’t say, a sterilizing vaccine. Knowing what we know it’s in no way surprising omicron is going bonkers with so many restrictions dropped in short order, so I’m not sure why they didn’t have massive stockpiles of medicines and prepared medical facilities. I do worry it wasn’t some rational, planned decision but just a snap decision in response to omicron breaking through and the protests about restrictions.", ">\n\nWhat would even be the point of doing so when covid freely spreads in the UK? Haven’t we learnt this by now border control does nothing unless you totally shut it down. And even then it breaks eventually.", ">\n\nBecause isolation at the point of arrival would cut the spread of any new strain by orders of magnitude.\nIt offers a valuable data point on any new strain so we don't just repeat what we did last time if there is a more dangerous or newly vaccine resistant strain.\nAs an island nation it's entirely possible for us to be ahead on data collection as well as behind in terms of global spread. All with basic track and trace and the massive surplus of cheap testing we now have.\nThere is no reason not to do this.\nNot doing this is like refusing to look at the road while driving just because we believe we've passed all the corners and it's a straight line from here onwards.", ">\n\nThere are several reasons not to do this.\nIt’s slows down the airports massively for a start.\nThis variant concern is pointless too it’s already here if it exists. Don’t take my word for it ask epidemiologists most say it won’t do anything.", ">\n\nIt really doesn't slow anything down. Everyone from China is already going through security and the 15 minute lag is less time than it takes to reunite people with bags.\nThis variant is which one exactly?\nAsk any epidemiologist, China is currently functioning as an incubating population for new variants.", ">\n\nlast week: \"yay go brave anti-lockdown protesters in china! fuck xi jinping! freedom for all!\"\nthis week: \"n-n-no, don't use your freedom to come here! fuck the chinese plague merchants! keep them away from us, xi jinping!\"", ">\n\nWhat would be the point? According to the ONS coronavirus survey somewhere in the region of 2% of the UK population, which is ~1.3 million people, would test positive for covid right now. A few more arriving on a plane is going to make shit all difference.", ">\n\nA new immune-evasive variant can reinfect those who only just had covid. And it looks like this one is more immune-evasive. So that would mean our cases could shoot up massively also as previous immunity is less effective. Meaning more long covid cases, more strain on the NHS as the clinically vulnerable are still dying in the hundreds a week as is,… The whole thing is a shitshow tbh. I’d use the cautionary principle but this government doesn’t care so… head in the sand approach and fingers crossed it is.", ">\n\nHas any country ever successfully prevented a variant from reaching their shores?", ">\n\nWell, not entirely, but China has prevented large outbreaks for 2 years. New Zealand for 1.5 years. \nWith Omicron they both didn't stand a chance though.", ">\n\nSeems we forgot a lot of common sense protocols from original Covid outbreaks but it was so long ago and ancient in leadership people minds - learning from the past seems so difficult", ">\n\nIt's stupid, but they're not going to make them do anything if they test positive anyway. Even if they tell them to quarantine for 5 days (which is too short and not effective anyway) people are just going to go on with their plans and infect everyone else no matter what.", ">\n\nWell done, UK. No point putting in security theatre rules to appease people's hysteria.", ">\n\nI'm starting to think they're trying to kill us.🤔", ">\n\nBoJo was caught admitting as much", ">\n\nWell it worked last time", ">\n\nOther people also have bills. Are you really going to risk giving people long covid or killing them, thus robing their family of support as well?", ">\n\nNo. I am not. The company is. I'm forced to pay bills regardless if im sick or not. My employer can allow me to stay home and recover by simply paying me. Problem solved.", ">\n\nStupidest thing I read today", ">\n\nWow, we picked “the economy” over human lives again. What does that make it now, 363 days in a row this year?", ">\n\nThis world is fucking backwards.", ">\n\nWhy bother testing them?\nJust treat them all as if they have it.because they do.\nStop taking in flights from China all together. That place is fucked.", ">\n\nWonderful. Fucking wonderful.", ">\n\nThere is a ducking vaccine make your choice and make your peace.", ">\n\nCan't wait to get Covid again because people don't care.", ">\n\nI'm sure a billion unvaccinated Chinese won't have any effect on covid and make our immunity useless.\n/s", ">\n\nThere aren’t a billion unvaccinated Chinese, so 🤷🏼‍♂️", ">\n\nTime to go shopping before the next mutation that will close the world. Why are we this stupid?", ">\n\nTurn off the TV bud. Relax. Smoke a joint or something. It's gonna be fine, it's all media fear and manipulation, they want you scared and obedient. Go live life!", ">\n\nFuck me I hate our government.", ">\n\nThey should stay the fck home", ">\n\nWhat’s that quote, “those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it”. Seeing that quote was from Churchill, the Tories are showing they are a different party to Churchill’s.", ">\n\nTravel restrictions never worked, so they are learning.", ">\n\nExcept they did work in other island nations.\nWe failed.\nThe lesson should be to learn from those who succeeded, you have apparently decided not to learn not to try.", ">\n\nSelective travel bans don't work. Universal travel bans do work, but come at a heavy price of course.", ">\n\nTesting and isolating arrivals is a perfect way to minimise costs while maximising affects.\nThere's no need to jump on the absolutist argument falacy.\nFirst we need data. Then if a travel ban is necessary we'll be enacting it earlier than before because the data will be coming from testing instead of death certificates.", ">\n\nThey need the rich Chinese to prop up their economy.\nEdit for u/righteous_mammons those people who happen to be millionaires, who have Chinese citizenship, and spend their money in others countries.", ">\n\n600 million Chinese people live on less than $140 a month.", ">\n\nAre you trying to be funny or showing your stupidity? They have literal millions of millionaires.", ">\n\nThere’s 6 million Chinese millionaires out of a population of 1.3 billion. Thats 0.46% of the population. Rich and Chinese aren’t really words that go together unfortunately because of the CCP", ">\n\nSo are you saying none of those 6 million don’t leave the country, but foreign properties, or vacation anywhere outside of China?", ">\n\nI see the UK government has learnt exactly 0 lessons from the past 2 years.", ">\n\nIsn’t this how it all started?", ">\n\nYe, it's deja vu", ">\n\nWait, wait. I've seen this one before.", ">\n\nThree years later and We’ve learned nothing", ">\n\nBuffoonery is getting old", ">\n\n50% arrivals into Milan are positive from China, it’s a story in Italian media TODAY.Gov isn’t protecting us again.\nThe gov should EXPLAIN why they do nothing when we know there’s an epidemic? Why no measures to protect the citizens, where’s the rationale?", ">\n\nFucking ban them for 3 months, why are we allowing them in?????? \nIn a way this is kinda like bio-warfare, our people will get sick from this and it will likely effect our ability to work/hurt our economy. Thats also not mentioning the long term effects like shrinkage of the frontal lobe which we dont fully understand yet.", ">\n\nOne thing nations can do (without sounding racist, even to China's administration) at all is to ask for vaccination proofs. \nInbound Chinese tourists or anyone must be fully vaccinated and boosted, but one of the Sinopharm/Sinovac shots doesn't count (like singapore, three sinovac shots counts as fully vaccinated, not boosted). \nCan be further tweaked (like allow people whose last shot was within three months). But the reason is because most Chinese tourists will need a fourth jab before going, which will dilute them.", ">\n\nSo not that the vaccine will prevent spread but just an administrative burden to reduce rates of travel?", ">\n\nVaccination does reduce the rate of spread", ">\n\nUK is a hotspot.", ">\n\nSounds great ! Fortunately the UK isn’t in the EU anymore. Hope EU countries will impose testing for travelers coming from the UK then", ">\n\nYaaa, we need a couple more years of lockdown and masks. Good for the global economy. Great for the soul.", ">\n\nNothing going on in China, smart decision.", ">\n\ntomorrows headline. EU to require covid testing for folks arriving from the UK.", ">\n\nBritain is indeed known for good decision making in the last few years, it will be grant!", ">\n\nAs an US citizen, I can only give an outside perspective, but from what I have observed, I feel like the Tories thought process is this; \"Is this decision going to turn more of our citizens into racist pieces of shit like us? Then yes, let's go with that option. To hell with the consequences!\"", ">\n\nWhat a…umm…perspective", ">\n\nThe perspective of someone who is worried about the increasing openess of racist assholes in every country. Mine is included in that, because yes, we have a large amount of racist pieces of shit in the US. So when I see stories like this, I worry about how it will affect P.O.C. and other minority groups. In the US, we saw a large increase of hate crimes against Asian minority groups after the start of covid, and if the Britain allows for visitors from China to spread covid so easily by not implementing a ban on those that test positive for covid, I can only imagine that racism towards Asian groups will increase over here because of it.", ">\n\nu/EarRepresentative438 , I completely misread your comment. I thought you said \"What . . . umm . . . perspective\" as if it was a question.", ">\n\nI was wondering if thats what happened. I feel like covid testing for international travel should be standard", ">\n\nAbsolutely, especially after the flight to Italy from China where 50% of the passengers tested positive for covid.", ">\n\nYea thats insane. Im also of the opinion china should have closed their own borders in 2019 and the us should have closed travel in jan 2020. I sure hope things turn out alright(again)", ">\n\nAnd here I thought we were ass hat backward in the USA…", ">\n\nWell. \nIf you're standing in front of an oncoming tsunami, and all you have is a spoon.. what do you do?", ">\n\nJust trying to start a fight 🤦‍♀️", ">\n\nWell done Rasheed Sonook.", ">\n\nWell i guess covid is everywhere already, no one wear mask anymore, why waste more money on testing.", ">\n\nThis seems like a bad idea. What the hell is wrong with the UK!", ">\n\nBitchmade country", ">\n\nYeesh — us pushing it back to the beginning of January is looking like the strictest policy out there, yikes.", ">\n\nGood luck Britain! Buckle up for the whirlwind", ">\n\nLeaning on the effectiveness of the vaccine here.", ">\n\nWe’ll read all about this failure in a week or so.", ">\n\nOk, take off the UK for our next vacation....", ">\n\nThe cats out of the bag, time to live with the fact that COVID is just another thing we have to deal with like the flu. Living in fear and imposing restrictions to “control” COVID has proven to be ineffective and at this point will only lead to more excess mortalities.", ">\n\nSky News is Fox News anyways, they want people to be more racist so this will work fine.", ">\n\nThis might be the plan. A great way of introducing mandates again after the shit hits the fan", ">\n\nI am afraid it is a well-thought move to amplify racial tensions. UK government is vile.", ">\n\nThere's something I don't understand.\nHow come China is letting infected people board planes AND ALSO imposes these draconic lockdowns that we've seen so many videos of? How are they doing both?", ">\n\nThey've stopped lockdowns as they move away from their zero-Covid policy failure.", ">\n\nWow, somehow I completely missed that entire thing. Thanks", ">\n\nThat sounds like a plan that has no downsides", ">\n\nGOOD!!! the Chinese people deserve more! You brits destroyed that wonderful nation, and now it's up to glorious Don' to summon other worldly beats from another dimension to annihilate all non-believers snd restore it to a Christian nation. God bless America and hail Jesus crhist", ">\n\nHail Jesus !! These inter dimensional folk are NO GOOD!! 💪🙌🔜📍😨🙏😃", ">\n\nWell, they seem to be carrying on with their \"wrong way to go\" strategy. Been working so well for them.", ">\n\nConsidering Milan,an outright ban would be appropriate.", ">\n\nNot a good move UK." ]

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[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!", ">\n\nThe human version of a ghost turd." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!", ">\n\nThe human version of a ghost turd.", ">\n\nRomanian police needed\nproof that Andrew Tate was in\nthe country and he posted a video yesterday\nfeatured a pizza box from a Romanian\npizza store confirming he was in the country. The guy ratted himself out lol" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!", ">\n\nThe human version of a ghost turd.", ">\n\nRomanian police needed\nproof that Andrew Tate was in\nthe country and he posted a video yesterday\nfeatured a pizza box from a Romanian\npizza store confirming he was in the country. The guy ratted himself out lol", ">\n\nI can't believe that someone who's too smart to read books and who gets brain trauma for a living would do something that dumb" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!", ">\n\nThe human version of a ghost turd.", ">\n\nRomanian police needed\nproof that Andrew Tate was in\nthe country and he posted a video yesterday\nfeatured a pizza box from a Romanian\npizza store confirming he was in the country. The guy ratted himself out lol", ">\n\nI can't believe that someone who's too smart to read books and who gets brain trauma for a living would do something that dumb", ">\n\nTrying to own a girl over twitter does that to you" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!", ">\n\nThe human version of a ghost turd.", ">\n\nRomanian police needed\nproof that Andrew Tate was in\nthe country and he posted a video yesterday\nfeatured a pizza box from a Romanian\npizza store confirming he was in the country. The guy ratted himself out lol", ">\n\nI can't believe that someone who's too smart to read books and who gets brain trauma for a living would do something that dumb", ">\n\nTrying to own a girl over twitter does that to you", ">\n\nTrying and failing, hard" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!", ">\n\nThe human version of a ghost turd.", ">\n\nRomanian police needed\nproof that Andrew Tate was in\nthe country and he posted a video yesterday\nfeatured a pizza box from a Romanian\npizza store confirming he was in the country. The guy ratted himself out lol", ">\n\nI can't believe that someone who's too smart to read books and who gets brain trauma for a living would do something that dumb", ">\n\nTrying to own a girl over twitter does that to you", ">\n\nTrying and failing, hard", ">\n\nYou mean answering to a burn after 10 hours with \"NO, you\" is not a win ? 😹" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!", ">\n\nThe human version of a ghost turd.", ">\n\nRomanian police needed\nproof that Andrew Tate was in\nthe country and he posted a video yesterday\nfeatured a pizza box from a Romanian\npizza store confirming he was in the country. The guy ratted himself out lol", ">\n\nI can't believe that someone who's too smart to read books and who gets brain trauma for a living would do something that dumb", ">\n\nTrying to own a girl over twitter does that to you", ">\n\nTrying and failing, hard", ">\n\nYou mean answering to a burn after 10 hours with \"NO, you\" is not a win ? 😹", ">\n\nOh yeah, well the jerk store called and they’re running out of you." ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!", ">\n\nThe human version of a ghost turd.", ">\n\nRomanian police needed\nproof that Andrew Tate was in\nthe country and he posted a video yesterday\nfeatured a pizza box from a Romanian\npizza store confirming he was in the country. The guy ratted himself out lol", ">\n\nI can't believe that someone who's too smart to read books and who gets brain trauma for a living would do something that dumb", ">\n\nTrying to own a girl over twitter does that to you", ">\n\nTrying and failing, hard", ">\n\nYou mean answering to a burn after 10 hours with \"NO, you\" is not a win ? 😹", ">\n\nOh yeah, well the jerk store called and they’re running out of you.", ">\n\nWell you’re their best customer!" ]

[ "2022 ending with an absolute BANGER. I love it.", ">\n\nliterally coming in clutch right before the new years. her impact 🙌🔥", ">\n\nWhen keeping it real goes wrong.", ">\n\nI don’t like people playing on my phone!", ">\n\nYou a bitch, and sos ya auntie", ">\n\nI do hope the Romanian police enjoy their new Bugatti.", ">\n\nThey might seize his funds so he ends up as a brokie like the rest of us. Lol.", ">\n\nHe'll have to sign up for tate university so he can get rich", ">\n\nTaint University", ">\n\nWhere he's going, taint no university", ">\n\n\"You can't do this to me, I own 33 cars!\"", ">\n\nSpeaking of guys who own way too many cars…whatever happened to that 28 Lamborghini guy who reads all those books from a few years ago? Did his scam end too?", ">\n\nDude you’re right, that guy just seemed to vanish all the sudden. Not that I’m complaining, mind you", ">\n\nHe bought the right to RadioShack and a bunch of other bankrupt retailer’s names and are using those for drop shipping and to push crypto scams", ">\n\nCan you explain what “drop shipping” is? Had not heard of that before", ">\n\nWhere you market/advertise a product and then when someone orders from you you order from somewhere else to have it sent to them. This way you don’t have to deal with storing inventory/actually shipping etc.", ">\n\nYup, I ordered a cooler on new egg once and the third party seller had it shipped to me from amazon", ">\n\nThat might not be the same.\nAmazon has a type of account where you can send your merchandise to them to store. Some small businesses do this instead of having their own warehouse/storage.", ">\n\nMost bizarre purchase for me was being stupid lazy, I ordered wind shield wiper fluid for $10 on Amazon(I wasn't motivated to go to the store for just that). It came in an Amazon box, but with an invoice from Autozone for 2.99, plus AutoZone shipping, taxes, and fees. It was interesting to get a breakdown, I think the guy made about $1 from the sale, and didn't even have to touch a product.", ">\n\n\nOwning a 'webcam' house in Romania with upto 75 girls working there. \n\nTotally normal, not at all suspicious behaviour. \nLiam Neeson is on his way.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate: Well, this is the thing with Romania. Romania is a poor country, so they don’t have the police resources to be going down these rabbit hole garbage investigations into nothing bullsh*t. They don’t have time. \nCouldn't happen to a nicer guy.", ">\n\nHe moved to Romania because he didn't like that he couldn't bribe cops to get away with crimes where he used to live. He was actually mad about it.", ">\n\nWhich is dumb, Romania is far from being a free corrupt country but is also not wild West.", ">\n\nAlso, taking down an internationally notorious dickhead that openly insults your justice and law enforcement systems is just the thing both corrupt and non-corrupt officials love to do.", ">\n\nProbably helps that he has a lot of nice cars just sitting around, gathering dust…", ">\n\nYup. He bragged about his 33 cars and the police are definitely going to enter those 20 cars into evidence. And once they put the 15 cars into evidence, they'll secure those 10 cars in a location so the 3 cars can't be broken into. Don't want anyone stealing that single car!", ">\n\nDetective gonna get his wife a new Bugatti for their anniversary this year", ">\n\nIt's legitimate salvage", ">\n\nFell off the back of a truck, hand to God I saw it.", ">\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone. Dunked on by Greta fuckin Thunberg. \"What could be worse?\" He thought as suddenly a loud knock came from his door", ">\n\nI fed this to ChatGPT as a prompt and asked it to continue the story:\n\nAndrew Tate sighed as he looked at his phone, scrolling through the endless stream of notifications and messages. He had just been publicly criticized by none other than Greta Thunberg, and he knew that it was only a matter of time before the entire internet descended upon him. He had always been a controversial figure, but this was a new low, even for him.\nAs he sat there, feeling sorry for himself, a loud knock came from his door. Andrew quickly got up from the couch and made his way to the door, wondering who could possibly be visiting him at this hour. As he opened it, he was surprised to see a group of people standing in front of him. They were all dressed in bright yellow hazmat suits and holding large plastic containers.\n\"What's going on here?\" Andrew asked, feeling a sense of unease wash over him.\nOne of the people in the hazmat suits stepped forward and spoke in a serious tone. \"Mr. Tate, we are from the Environmental Protection Agency. We have received reports of a potential chemical spill in your area and need to conduct an emergency cleanup. Can we come in and take a look around?\"\nAndrew's heart sank as he realized that his day had just gone from bad to worse. He stepped aside and allowed the EPA team to enter his home. As they began their investigation, he couldn't help but wonder how he was going to deal with this latest crisis.\nThe EPA team searched his home thoroughly, taking samples from various surfaces and containers. Andrew watched nervously as they worked, trying to gauge their reactions and determine the extent of the damage. After what seemed like an eternity, the team leader turned to him and spoke.\n\"Mr. Tate, it looks like you have a serious problem on your hands. We have found evidence of a chemical spill in your home, and it appears that it has been going on for some time. You'll need to evacuate immediately and allow us to conduct a full cleanup.\"\nAndrew couldn't believe what he was hearing. How could this be happening to him? He had always been careful about his chemical use, and he couldn't understand how this could have happened. But he knew that he had no choice but to follow the EPA's instructions.\nAs he packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, Andrew couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on. He would get through this, just like he had gotten through everything else in his life.\n\nThat's too happy of an ending, though, so I asked ChatGPT to fix that:\n\nAs Andrew packed up his belongings and prepared to leave, he couldn't help but feel overwhelmed by the events of the day. First the public shaming by Greta Thunberg, and now this chemical spill. It seemed like the universe was conspiring against him. But he knew that he had to stay strong and face these challenges head on.\nUnfortunately, things only got worse from there. The chemical spill turned out to be much more severe than initially thought, and the cleanup process was lengthy and costly. Andrew was forced to temporarily relocate to a hotel while the EPA worked to decontaminate his home.\nThe public shaming and the chemical spill took a toll on Andrew's mental health, and he found himself struggling to cope with the stress and pressure. Despite his best efforts, he was unable to bounce back and eventually spiraled into a deep depression.\nAs the weeks and months passed, Andrew's life continued to unravel. He lost his job, his relationships suffered, and he found himself isolated and alone. Despite his initial determination to overcome these challenges, he was ultimately unable to get through this difficult time in his life.", ">\n\nYou can tell it was trained on a shit ton of garbage self-published novels, lmao.", ">\n\nHis day was about to go from bad to worse", ">\n\nThis dumb alpha of a man gave away his location because a 19 year old climate activist dragged his ass for the world to see", ">\n\nAnd he fucking started it. It’s beautiful.", ">\n\nIndirectly causing your own downfall is peak irony.", ">\n\nI finally get to use this phrase:\n\nHe was hoisted with his own petard.", ">\n\nSmall petard energy.", ">\n\nThis is the funniest shit in the world. He started an unprompted twitter slap fight with a 19 year old climate activist and it leads to this shit.", ">\n\nThis might be funnier. \nThe acronym for the group that monitors sex trafficking in Europe....is GRETA.", ">\n\nIf you wrote that as a twist in a book it would be considered fake but real life is funnier.", ">\n\nIf that was in a book, I’d roll my eyes and criticize the author for being too on-the-nose.", ">\n\nIt's surprising how often that has happened over the past few years.", ">\n\nFour Seasons Total Landscaping... \nThe simulation is getting lazy since 2016", ">\n\nI’m convinced the architect of the simulation is an absurdist", ">\n\nI’m sure When Greta Thunberg set out to clean the planet of filth this isn’t what she meant.. But it’s certainly a bonus.", ">\n\nShe nailed the side quest.", ">\n\nWhen accidentally kill the target of a side quest you haven't even started yet because they randomly tried to jump you in the overworld for no reason.", ">\n\nLets say you're doing something stupidly illegal and immoral and getting rich for it, you need to be \"cheese sandwich\" level stupid to thrust your criminal face all over social media.", ">\n\nThat's an insult to a cheese sandwich.", ">\n\nLook. You take normal bread add some cheap cheese and ANDDDDD add some mayonnaise and mustard and I tell you what that’s a pretty great item you’ve made when you thought you were “out of food”.\nDon’t ever disparage the cheese sandwich like this sir.", ">\n\nGreta Thunberg cleaning up the environment.", ">\n\nTaking out the trash.", ">\n\nSequestration of hot air, and farts", ">\n\nDay 1: find out about this dbag. \nAlso, day 1: wish I hadn't found out about this dbag. \nDay 2: guess I can just go back to not knowing about this dbag. \nMan, if everything was that easy!!", ">\n\nThe human version of a ghost turd.", ">\n\nRomanian police needed\nproof that Andrew Tate was in\nthe country and he posted a video yesterday\nfeatured a pizza box from a Romanian\npizza store confirming he was in the country. The guy ratted himself out lol", ">\n\nI can't believe that someone who's too smart to read books and who gets brain trauma for a living would do something that dumb", ">\n\nTrying to own a girl over twitter does that to you", ">\n\nTrying and failing, hard", ">\n\nYou mean answering to a burn after 10 hours with \"NO, you\" is not a win ? 😹", ">\n\nOh yeah, well the jerk store called and they’re running out of you.", ">\n\nWell you’re their best customer!", ">\n\nOh yeah?...well, I slept with your wife!" ]