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"Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.",
">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya",
">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.",
">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores.",
">\n\nI mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.\nChain has the booming business, so good for it (ha).",
">\n\ni love the consistency of it. most others are very inconsistent. the only other one off the top of my head is mcdonald’s and that’s just the fries. i also like it bc don’t have it very often. i do think it’s a tad overhyped tho.",
">\n\nChik-Fil-A is over-hyped and overpriced.",
">\n\nTheir Sunday chicken is heavenly.",
">\n\nPopeyes is superior. KFC is second.",
">\n\nPopeyes is very good, yeah. KFC is inconsistent, at least where I live, and their chicken can either be very dry or very juicy, or sometimes it might taste old.\nThe service at Popeyes is another issue all together. This might be an issue with the location I go to rather than how the procedure is at the chain itself, but they handle one customer at a time in the drive through. Basically, they take one order, serve that person's order, and then move on to the next car, rather than getting the next order and preparing it in advance. \nAnyway, rant over.",
">\n\nDisagree. Chick Fil A sucks.",
">\n\nChick is gross. Same with In N out. I'd take Wendy's over them any day.",
">\n\nIn N Out is a similar issue. Alright, but overhyped for what it is.\nI too would take Wendy's over either. Funny enough, I think Wendy's chicken sandwiches are probably on par with Chick Fil A's, except I know what I'm getting beforehand and I don't have to wait in a ridiculous line."
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That space bar is amazing though | [] |
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Sounds great! I have a Portico75 waiting for me to build, I may just go this route with switches. Nice work! | [
"That space bar is amazing though"
] |
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Hey! I have that cap set! I keep wanting to swap the space bar for the "cat bitch" one that came with it but every time I do the current space gives me that look. | [
"That space bar is amazing though",
">\n\nSounds great! I have a Portico75 waiting for me to build, I may just go this route with switches. Nice work!"
] |
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Wow I haven’t seen a type test in a long time they use to be so common before | [
"That space bar is amazing though",
">\n\nSounds great! I have a Portico75 waiting for me to build, I may just go this route with switches. Nice work!",
">\n\nHey! I have that cap set! I keep wanting to swap the space bar for the \"cat bitch\" one that came with it but every time I do the current space gives me that look."
] |
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Congrats, sounds and looks great! I think the key co stuff is such good quality. I have a Candy Bar which I absolutely love. | [
"That space bar is amazing though",
">\n\nSounds great! I have a Portico75 waiting for me to build, I may just go this route with switches. Nice work!",
">\n\nHey! I have that cap set! I keep wanting to swap the space bar for the \"cat bitch\" one that came with it but every time I do the current space gives me that look.",
">\n\nWow I haven’t seen a type test in a long time they use to be so common before"
] |
> | [
"That space bar is amazing though",
">\n\nSounds great! I have a Portico75 waiting for me to build, I may just go this route with switches. Nice work!",
">\n\nHey! I have that cap set! I keep wanting to swap the space bar for the \"cat bitch\" one that came with it but every time I do the current space gives me that look.",
">\n\nWow I haven’t seen a type test in a long time they use to be so common before",
">\n\nCongrats, sounds and looks great! I think the key co stuff is such good quality. I have a Candy Bar which I absolutely love."
] |
Tesla Autopilot Prevents Horrible Accident When Driver Falls Asleep At The Wheel
I love hating on Tesla as much as the next guy but let's give the robots credit were it's due | [] |
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he probably fell asleep because he was on autopilot. | [
"Tesla Autopilot Prevents Horrible Accident When Driver Falls Asleep At The Wheel\n\nI love hating on Tesla as much as the next guy but let's give the robots credit were it's due"
] |
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Nothing is idiot proof | [
"Tesla Autopilot Prevents Horrible Accident When Driver Falls Asleep At The Wheel\n\nI love hating on Tesla as much as the next guy but let's give the robots credit were it's due",
">\n\nhe probably fell asleep because he was on autopilot."
] |
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So, Sleeping Beauty and possibly many others are alive thanks to self driving technology
Therefore the technology is bad?
Seriously? | [
"Tesla Autopilot Prevents Horrible Accident When Driver Falls Asleep At The Wheel\n\nI love hating on Tesla as much as the next guy but let's give the robots credit were it's due",
">\n\nhe probably fell asleep because he was on autopilot.",
">\n\nNothing is idiot proof"
] |
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But elon said this tech was just as safe as pipelines!! We don't have anything to worry about!! Oh, wait, my model needs another cupholder, can we fix that now? Hey, guys...
I'm sorry, I misspoke myself.
People that sell or buy "fully self driving technology" should be held criminally liable before being tarred and feathered in a public court on joe rogan's podcast but hosted by Jon, Stephen, or Noah. | [
"Tesla Autopilot Prevents Horrible Accident When Driver Falls Asleep At The Wheel\n\nI love hating on Tesla as much as the next guy but let's give the robots credit were it's due",
">\n\nhe probably fell asleep because he was on autopilot.",
">\n\nNothing is idiot proof",
">\n\nSo, Sleeping Beauty and possibly many others are alive thanks to self driving technology \nTherefore the technology is bad?\nSeriously?"
] |
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This is in Germany, and 110 is kilometers, not miles. I was confused for a second. | [
"Tesla Autopilot Prevents Horrible Accident When Driver Falls Asleep At The Wheel\n\nI love hating on Tesla as much as the next guy but let's give the robots credit were it's due",
">\n\nhe probably fell asleep because he was on autopilot.",
">\n\nNothing is idiot proof",
">\n\nSo, Sleeping Beauty and possibly many others are alive thanks to self driving technology \nTherefore the technology is bad?\nSeriously?",
">\n\nBut elon said this tech was just as safe as pipelines!! We don't have anything to worry about!! Oh, wait, my model needs another cupholder, can we fix that now? Hey, guys...\nI'm sorry, I misspoke myself. \nPeople that sell or buy \"fully self driving technology\" should be held criminally liable before being tarred and feathered in a public court on joe rogan's podcast but hosted by Jon, Stephen, or Noah."
] |
> | [
"Tesla Autopilot Prevents Horrible Accident When Driver Falls Asleep At The Wheel\n\nI love hating on Tesla as much as the next guy but let's give the robots credit were it's due",
">\n\nhe probably fell asleep because he was on autopilot.",
">\n\nNothing is idiot proof",
">\n\nSo, Sleeping Beauty and possibly many others are alive thanks to self driving technology \nTherefore the technology is bad?\nSeriously?",
">\n\nBut elon said this tech was just as safe as pipelines!! We don't have anything to worry about!! Oh, wait, my model needs another cupholder, can we fix that now? Hey, guys...\nI'm sorry, I misspoke myself. \nPeople that sell or buy \"fully self driving technology\" should be held criminally liable before being tarred and feathered in a public court on joe rogan's podcast but hosted by Jon, Stephen, or Noah.",
">\n\nThis is in Germany, and 110 is kilometers, not miles. I was confused for a second."
] |
I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift? | [] |
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I know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.
It’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing. | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?"
] |
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Looks like a beauty, congratulations. | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing."
] |
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Nice choice for your maiden voyage. | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations."
] |
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Bummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy ! | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage."
] |
>
They’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using. | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !"
] |
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I just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using."
] |
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Excited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL"
] |
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Nice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂 | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too"
] |
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Can confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂"
] |
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So, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum!
What you got under there? | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock"
] |
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Cherry Reds! | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?"
] |
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Looks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!! | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!"
] |
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Very clean! | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!"
] |
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Well done. | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!"
] |
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All white is such a classic and classy look. | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!",
">\n\nWell done."
] |
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It really is. I wanted a piece which I can experiment with (keycaps mostly) and this does the job so well. Also might I add - sounds incredible out of the box. | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!",
">\n\nWell done.",
">\n\nAll white is such a classic and classy look."
] |
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That's hot. So clean. ✨ | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!",
">\n\nWell done.",
">\n\nAll white is such a classic and classy look.",
">\n\nIt really is. I wanted a piece which I can experiment with (keycaps mostly) and this does the job so well. Also might I add - sounds incredible out of the box."
] |
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Very neat 🫡 | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!",
">\n\nWell done.",
">\n\nAll white is such a classic and classy look.",
">\n\nIt really is. I wanted a piece which I can experiment with (keycaps mostly) and this does the job so well. Also might I add - sounds incredible out of the box.",
">\n\nThat's hot. So clean. ✨"
] |
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Soo clean it looks amazing | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!",
">\n\nWell done.",
">\n\nAll white is such a classic and classy look.",
">\n\nIt really is. I wanted a piece which I can experiment with (keycaps mostly) and this does the job so well. Also might I add - sounds incredible out of the box.",
">\n\nThat's hot. So clean. ✨",
">\n\nVery neat 🫡"
] |
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that's a beaut! great choice | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!",
">\n\nWell done.",
">\n\nAll white is such a classic and classy look.",
">\n\nIt really is. I wanted a piece which I can experiment with (keycaps mostly) and this does the job so well. Also might I add - sounds incredible out of the box.",
">\n\nThat's hot. So clean. ✨",
">\n\nVery neat 🫡",
">\n\nSoo clean it looks amazing"
] |
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Personally not a fan of the glyphs on the nav cluster, but i love how clean this looks.
Enjoy it!
Edit: actually just something about the Del key glyph, feels too busy compared to the rest of the cluster... Don't mind me, I'll just go back to my corner... | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!",
">\n\nWell done.",
">\n\nAll white is such a classic and classy look.",
">\n\nIt really is. I wanted a piece which I can experiment with (keycaps mostly) and this does the job so well. Also might I add - sounds incredible out of the box.",
">\n\nThat's hot. So clean. ✨",
">\n\nVery neat 🫡",
">\n\nSoo clean it looks amazing",
">\n\nthat's a beaut! great choice"
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I get that - I’m going to be using that quite less tbh so I don’t notice it as much. That might change after you’ve pointed it out 😂 | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!",
">\n\nWell done.",
">\n\nAll white is such a classic and classy look.",
">\n\nIt really is. I wanted a piece which I can experiment with (keycaps mostly) and this does the job so well. Also might I add - sounds incredible out of the box.",
">\n\nThat's hot. So clean. ✨",
">\n\nVery neat 🫡",
">\n\nSoo clean it looks amazing",
">\n\nthat's a beaut! great choice",
">\n\nPersonally not a fan of the glyphs on the nav cluster, but i love how clean this looks.\nEnjoy it!\nEdit: actually just something about the Del key glyph, feels too busy compared to the rest of the cluster... Don't mind me, I'll just go back to my corner..."
] |
> | [
"I love how simple and clean this looks. What’s the key under Return and to the right of Shift?",
">\n\nI know right! Looks were a big part of the decision.\nIt’s a function key - it’s a little odd but I haven’t really had any issues with it while typing.",
">\n\nLooks like a beauty, congratulations.",
">\n\nNice choice for your maiden voyage.",
">\n\nBummed I missed the GB on this, looks awesome! Enjoy !",
">\n\nThey’re planning to have it in stock in the future so hopefully you get your hands on one. It’s a great board to just take out the box and start using.",
">\n\nI just checked their website and it’s coming back January 2023 I’m so stoked haha I was debating this or the Zoom TKL",
">\n\nExcited to my group unit in, might pick up a second when extras drop too",
">\n\nNice!! I’ve been looking at the Tai Hao Hawaii keycaps - don’t know why they just caught my eye and now stuck in my head ever since. Hopefully I’ll get my hands on some as soon as I am brave enough to spend more in this hobby 😂",
">\n\nCan confirm tai hao keycaps are awesome. Sound great too, nice thick plastic. Full of thock",
">\n\nSo, so, so clean. Almost feels like it should be behind glass in a museum! \nWhat you got under there?",
">\n\nCherry Reds!",
">\n\nLooks extremely clean and simple. NICEEEE !!!",
">\n\nVery clean!",
">\n\nWell done.",
">\n\nAll white is such a classic and classy look.",
">\n\nIt really is. I wanted a piece which I can experiment with (keycaps mostly) and this does the job so well. Also might I add - sounds incredible out of the box.",
">\n\nThat's hot. So clean. ✨",
">\n\nVery neat 🫡",
">\n\nSoo clean it looks amazing",
">\n\nthat's a beaut! great choice",
">\n\nPersonally not a fan of the glyphs on the nav cluster, but i love how clean this looks.\nEnjoy it!\nEdit: actually just something about the Del key glyph, feels too busy compared to the rest of the cluster... Don't mind me, I'll just go back to my corner...",
">\n\nI get that - I’m going to be using that quite less tbh so I don’t notice it as much. That might change after you’ve pointed it out 😂"
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There's strong competition for that title, even just within the GOP | [] |
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even just within the GOP
And just the ones in Congress. | [
"There's strong competition for that title, even just within the GOP"
] |
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Trump; Hold my Taxes... | [
"There's strong competition for that title, even just within the GOP",
">\n\n\neven just within the GOP\n\nAnd just the ones in Congress."
] |
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Business as usual for the QOP. | [
"There's strong competition for that title, even just within the GOP",
">\n\n\neven just within the GOP\n\nAnd just the ones in Congress.",
">\n\nTrump; Hold my Taxes..."
] |
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Oh nononono… he can absolutely go lower! | [
"There's strong competition for that title, even just within the GOP",
">\n\n\neven just within the GOP\n\nAnd just the ones in Congress.",
">\n\nTrump; Hold my Taxes...",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the QOP."
] |
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Here’s how the situation will turn out:
(1) He’ll be sworn in.
(2) There will be a (mock) investigation led by Republicans.
(3) He’ll be told by GOP leadership to keep his head down and vote in line with leadership if he wants to keep his job.
(4) He’ll get his hand slapped publicly, forcing to apologize.
(5) He’ll be a puppet for GOP leadership until his next election.
This is a dream opportunity for GOP leadership and they are going to seize it. | [
"There's strong competition for that title, even just within the GOP",
">\n\n\neven just within the GOP\n\nAnd just the ones in Congress.",
">\n\nTrump; Hold my Taxes...",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the QOP.",
">\n\nOh nononono… he can absolutely go lower!"
] |
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Republicans barely qualify as humans anyway | [
"There's strong competition for that title, even just within the GOP",
">\n\n\neven just within the GOP\n\nAnd just the ones in Congress.",
">\n\nTrump; Hold my Taxes...",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the QOP.",
">\n\nOh nononono… he can absolutely go lower!",
">\n\nHere’s how the situation will turn out:\n(1) He’ll be sworn in. \n(2) There will be a (mock) investigation led by Republicans. \n(3) He’ll be told by GOP leadership to keep his head down and vote in line with leadership if he wants to keep his job. \n(4) He’ll get his hand slapped publicly, forcing to apologize. \n(5) He’ll be a puppet for GOP leadership until his next election. \nThis is a dream opportunity for GOP leadership and they are going to seize it."
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trump literally had children ripped from their parents arms and put in cages. That's lower than what Santos did.
What the Russians did in Bucha (and everywhere else they occupy) is lower than what Santos did. | [
"There's strong competition for that title, even just within the GOP",
">\n\n\neven just within the GOP\n\nAnd just the ones in Congress.",
">\n\nTrump; Hold my Taxes...",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the QOP.",
">\n\nOh nononono… he can absolutely go lower!",
">\n\nHere’s how the situation will turn out:\n(1) He’ll be sworn in. \n(2) There will be a (mock) investigation led by Republicans. \n(3) He’ll be told by GOP leadership to keep his head down and vote in line with leadership if he wants to keep his job. \n(4) He’ll get his hand slapped publicly, forcing to apologize. \n(5) He’ll be a puppet for GOP leadership until his next election. \nThis is a dream opportunity for GOP leadership and they are going to seize it.",
">\n\nRepublicans barely qualify as humans anyway"
] |
> | [
"There's strong competition for that title, even just within the GOP",
">\n\n\neven just within the GOP\n\nAnd just the ones in Congress.",
">\n\nTrump; Hold my Taxes...",
">\n\nBusiness as usual for the QOP.",
">\n\nOh nononono… he can absolutely go lower!",
">\n\nHere’s how the situation will turn out:\n(1) He’ll be sworn in. \n(2) There will be a (mock) investigation led by Republicans. \n(3) He’ll be told by GOP leadership to keep his head down and vote in line with leadership if he wants to keep his job. \n(4) He’ll get his hand slapped publicly, forcing to apologize. \n(5) He’ll be a puppet for GOP leadership until his next election. \nThis is a dream opportunity for GOP leadership and they are going to seize it.",
">\n\nRepublicans barely qualify as humans anyway",
">\n\ntrump literally had children ripped from their parents arms and put in cages. That's lower than what Santos did.\nWhat the Russians did in Bucha (and everywhere else they occupy) is lower than what Santos did."
] |
As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die. | [] |
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I live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.
It's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.
While gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:
Right wing radicalization.
This isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die."
] |
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I'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.
Myself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say "guns don't kill people, people kill people" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how.... | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference."
] |
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They say "guns don't kill people, people kill people" - I think that's right.
And yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how...."
] |
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Yeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works."
] |
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Mass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of "the exception that proves the rule."
There's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter."
] |
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Mass killing is significantly harder without a gun.
Not really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control."
] |
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Evidently they are less easy to employ than guns? | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ."
] |
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“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.
He further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.
“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”
Frost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”
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"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?"
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Most of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues.."
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Please don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation."
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There's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic"
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Sure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess."
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I wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact."
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Anecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government."
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Another anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life.
I'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range.
And honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1."
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Come down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis."
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Keep going for the jugular, kid.
-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns."
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I had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home.
Luckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long."
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Gen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?
GOP: haha no fuck you
Gen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.
GOP: why tho | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home."
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GOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you
Gen-Z: why tho | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho"
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Ok come back if you get rich | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho"
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It’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich"
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But we need more guns to stop all the guns!
This forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower! | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow."
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To be fair, they do burn shit to control fires | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!"
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The difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires"
] |
>
Are boomers then the "serial killer" generation? | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself"
] |
>
He's not wrong. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?"
] |
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Does it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average? | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong."
] |
>
You need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?"
] |
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I bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher"
] |
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How is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time."
] |
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Hey, homie. I think you need to relax.
The median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50."
] |
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The cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion."
] |
>
The US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.
But they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases.
Force them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives"
] |
>
I feel like it's been a few generations at this point. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune."
] |
>
I was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point."
] |
>
The statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers.
I'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally.
The police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.
Americans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.
The theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.
My last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available.
It is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.
My view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening."
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It’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes."
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What freedom to go into society is taken away? | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t."
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That’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?"
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"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom."
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"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you."
] |
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That’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…"
] |
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I'm for this guy. Fuck the 2A. We have a military that rivals any other countries, our citizens have no need for military hardware. Restrict it to single shot or breech loaders for hunting use, enact a buyback, and throw anyone caught with an illegal weapon in jail for max penalty. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though."
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You think it’s a great idea for only police, military, and the people who direct their actions (i.e., people whose main goal in life is to grow their own power and influence) to have all the weapons? | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though.",
">\n\nI'm for this guy. Fuck the 2A. We have a military that rivals any other countries, our citizens have no need for military hardware. Restrict it to single shot or breech loaders for hunting use, enact a buyback, and throw anyone caught with an illegal weapon in jail for max penalty."
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"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though.",
">\n\nI'm for this guy. Fuck the 2A. We have a military that rivals any other countries, our citizens have no need for military hardware. Restrict it to single shot or breech loaders for hunting use, enact a buyback, and throw anyone caught with an illegal weapon in jail for max penalty.",
">\n\nYou think it’s a great idea for only police, military, and the people who direct their actions (i.e., people whose main goal in life is to grow their own power and influence) to have all the weapons?"
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It looks like it’s been working okay post WW2. I am not sure we’re out of the woods yet. It’s not unreasonable to think we might encounter some destabilizing issues in the world in our lifetimes. That might change things. Seems like the kind of thing that’s working until suddenly it isn’t anymore. But there are other good reasons for civilians to own practical firearms. If you have good training and are well practiced, you can protect yourself very effectively. Any kind of help from law enforcement is going to take minutes to arrive (after you realize your life is in danger, and/if you manage to call them, if the system is working properly). That’s a long time to wait in life or death situations. Police can only protect you if protection is still applicable when they get there, and if they choose to. In most cases, they get there after whatever happens… | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though.",
">\n\nI'm for this guy. Fuck the 2A. We have a military that rivals any other countries, our citizens have no need for military hardware. Restrict it to single shot or breech loaders for hunting use, enact a buyback, and throw anyone caught with an illegal weapon in jail for max penalty.",
">\n\nYou think it’s a great idea for only police, military, and the people who direct their actions (i.e., people whose main goal in life is to grow their own power and influence) to have all the weapons?",
">\n\nWorks for other democracies."
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How many people died of gun violence in Chicago this last wknd? How about you fix our inner cities? More people die of guns every weekend in Chicago than most mass shootings. I thought “Black Lives Matter”? You know damn well that’s a fkn lie. | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though.",
">\n\nI'm for this guy. Fuck the 2A. We have a military that rivals any other countries, our citizens have no need for military hardware. Restrict it to single shot or breech loaders for hunting use, enact a buyback, and throw anyone caught with an illegal weapon in jail for max penalty.",
">\n\nYou think it’s a great idea for only police, military, and the people who direct their actions (i.e., people whose main goal in life is to grow their own power and influence) to have all the weapons?",
">\n\nWorks for other democracies.",
">\n\nIt looks like it’s been working okay post WW2. I am not sure we’re out of the woods yet. It’s not unreasonable to think we might encounter some destabilizing issues in the world in our lifetimes. That might change things. Seems like the kind of thing that’s working until suddenly it isn’t anymore. But there are other good reasons for civilians to own practical firearms. If you have good training and are well practiced, you can protect yourself very effectively. Any kind of help from law enforcement is going to take minutes to arrive (after you realize your life is in danger, and/if you manage to call them, if the system is working properly). That’s a long time to wait in life or death situations. Police can only protect you if protection is still applicable when they get there, and if they choose to. In most cases, they get there after whatever happens…"
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"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though.",
">\n\nI'm for this guy. Fuck the 2A. We have a military that rivals any other countries, our citizens have no need for military hardware. Restrict it to single shot or breech loaders for hunting use, enact a buyback, and throw anyone caught with an illegal weapon in jail for max penalty.",
">\n\nYou think it’s a great idea for only police, military, and the people who direct their actions (i.e., people whose main goal in life is to grow their own power and influence) to have all the weapons?",
">\n\nWorks for other democracies.",
">\n\nIt looks like it’s been working okay post WW2. I am not sure we’re out of the woods yet. It’s not unreasonable to think we might encounter some destabilizing issues in the world in our lifetimes. That might change things. Seems like the kind of thing that’s working until suddenly it isn’t anymore. But there are other good reasons for civilians to own practical firearms. If you have good training and are well practiced, you can protect yourself very effectively. Any kind of help from law enforcement is going to take minutes to arrive (after you realize your life is in danger, and/if you manage to call them, if the system is working properly). That’s a long time to wait in life or death situations. Police can only protect you if protection is still applicable when they get there, and if they choose to. In most cases, they get there after whatever happens…",
">\n\nHow many people died of gun violence in Chicago this last wknd? How about you fix our inner cities? More people die of guns every weekend in Chicago than most mass shootings. I thought “Black Lives Matter”? You know damn well that’s a fkn lie."
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Was he at UT when he’ll rained down from the tower, or is he just another ignorant self-promoter? | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though.",
">\n\nI'm for this guy. Fuck the 2A. We have a military that rivals any other countries, our citizens have no need for military hardware. Restrict it to single shot or breech loaders for hunting use, enact a buyback, and throw anyone caught with an illegal weapon in jail for max penalty.",
">\n\nYou think it’s a great idea for only police, military, and the people who direct their actions (i.e., people whose main goal in life is to grow their own power and influence) to have all the weapons?",
">\n\nWorks for other democracies.",
">\n\nIt looks like it’s been working okay post WW2. I am not sure we’re out of the woods yet. It’s not unreasonable to think we might encounter some destabilizing issues in the world in our lifetimes. That might change things. Seems like the kind of thing that’s working until suddenly it isn’t anymore. But there are other good reasons for civilians to own practical firearms. If you have good training and are well practiced, you can protect yourself very effectively. Any kind of help from law enforcement is going to take minutes to arrive (after you realize your life is in danger, and/if you manage to call them, if the system is working properly). That’s a long time to wait in life or death situations. Police can only protect you if protection is still applicable when they get there, and if they choose to. In most cases, they get there after whatever happens…",
">\n\nHow many people died of gun violence in Chicago this last wknd? How about you fix our inner cities? More people die of guns every weekend in Chicago than most mass shootings. I thought “Black Lives Matter”? You know damn well that’s a fkn lie.",
">\n\nThey’re not ready for that convo"
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So...what are your solutions buddy? | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though.",
">\n\nI'm for this guy. Fuck the 2A. We have a military that rivals any other countries, our citizens have no need for military hardware. Restrict it to single shot or breech loaders for hunting use, enact a buyback, and throw anyone caught with an illegal weapon in jail for max penalty.",
">\n\nYou think it’s a great idea for only police, military, and the people who direct their actions (i.e., people whose main goal in life is to grow their own power and influence) to have all the weapons?",
">\n\nWorks for other democracies.",
">\n\nIt looks like it’s been working okay post WW2. I am not sure we’re out of the woods yet. It’s not unreasonable to think we might encounter some destabilizing issues in the world in our lifetimes. That might change things. Seems like the kind of thing that’s working until suddenly it isn’t anymore. But there are other good reasons for civilians to own practical firearms. If you have good training and are well practiced, you can protect yourself very effectively. Any kind of help from law enforcement is going to take minutes to arrive (after you realize your life is in danger, and/if you manage to call them, if the system is working properly). That’s a long time to wait in life or death situations. Police can only protect you if protection is still applicable when they get there, and if they choose to. In most cases, they get there after whatever happens…",
">\n\nHow many people died of gun violence in Chicago this last wknd? How about you fix our inner cities? More people die of guns every weekend in Chicago than most mass shootings. I thought “Black Lives Matter”? You know damn well that’s a fkn lie.",
">\n\nThey’re not ready for that convo",
">\n\nWas he at UT when he’ll rained down from the tower, or is he just another ignorant self-promoter?"
] |
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from his website:
"40,000 Americans die due to gun-related deaths each year. The most vulnerable members of our society account for the majority of those deaths. Mass violence has robbed my generation of our childhoods and cut many of our lives short. The attempts to simply regulate the sale of weapons haven’t worked. That’s why I support a holistic approach to gun violence, developed and championed by the Gun Violence Prevention movement.
IN CONGRESS, I WILL WORK TO
Ban assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines.
Require background checks for all gun sales.
Fund and support local community violence intervention programs, and ensure congress allocates at least $37 million to fully fund public research on gun violence.
Fight to end the corruption of the gun lobby and dismantle the NRA, and ensure our courts enforce licensing revocation for gun dealers and manufacturers who break the law.
Develop a national task force to end gun violence of which 25% of the membership is composed of youth and BIPOC representatives who are most affected by gun violence." | [
"As a millennial who was in high school when columbine happened, I thought I was part of the mass shooting generation. I never imagined it would get as bad as it has. Fuck every politician who sits on their hands while our kids die.",
">\n\nI live in Colorado, which at this point is like the poster child for mass shootings. There have been three mass shootings that made national news since I moved here. I lived in Aurora for a while - you can guess what people's first reaction was when I told them that.\nIt's fucking insane. I've been lucky, my closest connection to a mass shooting was when a couple coworkers visited the Boulder King Sooper less than 24 hours before the shooting there, and a bunch of people texted me concerned because it's close to my office. I was also within a couple blocks of the Planned Parenthood shooting when it happened. Thankfully, nobody I know was hurt. But damn, it's horrible.\nWhile gun violence has many factors to be addressed, I think the phenomenon of mass shootings in particular has one major factor that sets it apart:\nRight wing radicalization.\nThis isn't suicide due to unavailability of mental health care. This isn't drug related violence. This is a bunch of people radicalized online by far right propaganda and incel forums. Until we figure out a way to eliminate those things, no amount of gun laws will make a difference.",
">\n\nI'm sorry hear about your closeness to this issue. But I value your perspective, and I very much agree.\nMyself, I don't have a problem with guns. Being around one or around someone with one doesn't make me one iota uncomfortable. They say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. And those people right now are the radicalized right wingers. We really have to put a stop to this right wing radicalization. I have no idea how....",
">\n\n\nThey say \"guns don't kill people, people kill people\" - I think that's right. \n\nAnd yet people without guns don't mass shoot people. Weird how they works.",
">\n\nYeah, they just mass kill by other means, like in Nice. But I guess those deaths don't matter.",
">\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun. In fact, it's so hard to do that when it does happen, people remember it for years to come, like the stabbings in Nice. This is an example of \"the exception that proves the rule.\"\nThere's no reason to be obtuse here. In the modern day, mass killing is realistically only done with guns. This is a fact regardless of how you feel about guns and gun control.",
">\n\n\nMass killing is significantly harder without a gun.\n\nNot really. Nice is just one example. Bombing and vehicles are easy to employ.",
">\n\nEvidently they are less easy to employ than guns?",
">\n\n^\n\n“I think we have an opportunity, even in a Republican Congress, to pass legislation that can help get money for community violence intervention programs that help end gun violence before it even happens,” he said.\nHe further insists that any prospective legislation needs to have a mental health component.\n“Folks with serious mental health issues are often scapegoated as the reason why there’s gun violence,” Frost says. “But as someone who’s been doing the work, when you look into the numbers, having a serious mental health issue doesn’t make you more likely to shoot someone. It actually makes you more likely to be shot.”\nFrost intends to keep the pressure on both Republicans “who sweep the deaths of children under the rug” and on members of his own party who have been otherwise disinclined to take bold action. “I’d venture to say that gun control is the slowest-moving issue in the federal government that has the most media coverage when something happens,” he says. “I have to be the consistent voice.”\n\nArticle continues..",
">\n\nMost of that is true. But it's not folks with serious mental illness. To be sure, mental illness definitely plays a role. Lack of care options, stigmas, and undiagnosed mental health problems are absolutely part of the problem. But what we really see far more is a correlation between poverty and gun violence. It's got to be the most reliable correlation.",
">\n\nPlease don't conflate the two things like everyone loves to to fit their story. Poverty and gun violence and crime as a whole are definitely correlated. But when we talk about school shootings, Mall shootings, black church shootings, sikh temple shootings, gay club shootings, supermarket shootings, that's a different topic",
">\n\nThere's one pretty clear constant when it comes to gun violence in the US: an overabundance of guns. If we want to tackle gun violence, we have to address the absolutely insane number of guns our citizens possess.",
">\n\nSure but, pointing out that we had record gun sales in 2020 and that they clearly has an impact on the increase in shootings and gun violence makes you a screeching woke lib or something. It's completely impossible to get any one to just acknowledge that more guns=more shootings as an objective fact.",
">\n\nI wonder how much of those record sales was liberals reacting to the conservative attempt to overthrow the government.",
">\n\nAnecdotally, I purchased a handgun due to that exact reason. So that's at least 1.",
">\n\nAnother anecdote, my experience at the range has been a huge influx of new gun owners from all walks of life. \nI'm a gun owner in an extremely liberal state. So it's somewhat more safe here for all kinds of people to show up at a range. \nAnd honestly, I'm delighted to see new gun owners putting in the time to build habits and proficiency. Way too many of these panic buyers will just buy a gun and stick it in the nightstand, hoping they'll magically become John Wick in a crisis.",
">\n\nCome down to Houston, the ranges here are generally very diverse and just about everyone here owns.",
">\n\nKeep going for the jugular, kid.\n-a Millenial who's watched this shit for far too long.",
">\n\nI had a school lockdown in college that thankfully no one was hurt in. But hearing the alarms and realizing it was a real lockdown was terrifying. Having to hide and the door opening because students were looking for a place to hide and wait for the all clear still stays with me. Our professor was near tears and I was praying to anyone who would hear just in case. I just wanted to go home. \nLuckily we got the all clear and able to get home safe and sound. Next day, Sandy hook was all over the news. All I think about is those kids and teachers every time a shooting happens. Realizing they probably felt that same fear and just wanted to go home. It hurts to see nothing has changed but gotten worse since. My heart aches for anyone having to experience that feeling of uncertainty and not being able to get home.",
">\n\nGen-Z: Hey can you stop us from getting murdered at school?\nGOP: haha no fuck you\nGen-Z: Hi we're adults now and we're never voting for you.\nGOP: why tho",
">\n\nMore like \nGen-Z: Hi we’re adults now and we’re never voting at all\nGOP: Ok we’ll continue ignoring you\nGen-Z: why tho",
">\n\nOk come back if you get rich",
">\n\nIt’s such a uniquely American problem that we have the highest rates of gun ownership of any country by an absurd margin and the highest rates of gun violence of any country by an absurd margin and our elected officials believe the two are unconnected. Somehow.",
">\n\nBut we need more guns to stop all the guns! \nThis forest fire is out of control! Quick! Get the flame thrower!",
">\n\nTo be fair, they do burn shit to control fires",
">\n\nThe difference being that when they grab the flamethrowers, they don’t aim them at elementary schools, theaters, and churches. They surround the fire itself",
">\n\nAre boomers then the \"serial killer\" generation?",
">\n\nHe's not wrong.",
">\n\nDoes it make a whole lot of sense to define a generation on something that results in like 25-50 deaths per year on average?",
">\n\nYou need to relook at your numbers because the death toll is a lot higher",
">\n\nI bet I'd have great quads/calves if I moved goal posts all the time.",
">\n\nHow is that moving a goalpost? Avg. over the last 40 years is 25. 55 is not a lot higher than 50.",
">\n\nHey, homie. I think you need to relax.\nThe median over the last 40 years is 15. 55 is not a lot higher than 50, and a million is not a lot higher than a trillion.",
">\n\nThe cost of 2a is paid everyday in American blood and lives",
">\n\nThe US Supreme Court has ruled that concealed carry is a constitutional right.\nBut they won't allow concealed carry in their own building while they are hearing cases. \nForce them to follow the same rules as they are imposing on the rest of us, and watch how quickly they change their tune.",
">\n\nI feel like it's been a few generations at this point.",
">\n\nI was 5 when Columbine happened. I obviously didn’t know what happened at the time but as I got into junior high and high school I started to see it in the news. I was always so scared sitting in class and being in crowded hallways where I wouldn’t be able to easily run away if shooting started to happen terrified me. In college, I always picked a seat near an exit and I was constantly paranoid that someone was going to come in and start shooting. I have kids of my own now and I’m seriously considering homeschooling them because I can’t imagine sending them to school and something happening.",
">\n\nThe statistics and studies regarding firearms are becoming and have been extremely politically motivated. We've seen asinine things included in datasets many times to either inflate or deflate the numbers. \nI'm against banning guns for a few reasons personally. \nThe police are viciously violent and untrustworthy with no legal duty to save or protect anyone. They are absurdly militarized and already stomp on civil rights daily and I know you've all seen the articles that just become more and more frequent.\nAmericans have no social healthcare meaning anyone who gets seriously hurt needs tens of thousands of dollars to be okay again. Sure they might save your life but the bill will make you want to die anyhow. Medical debt last I checked is the leading cause of bankrupcy in the U.S.\nThe theme here so far is that without firearms americans have no assurance whatsoever of their well being. Calling 911 is dysfunctional. Pacifying everyone while providing zero groundwork to be like other nations is throwing Americans to the wolves.\nMy last reason which might be controversial but is that culturally this is the way of life I want to have. I do think we need to address a lot of problems but prior to the 1990s america did not have a problem with mass shootings even though semi automatics including ar15s were widely available. \nIt is only in the past several years that the number of incidents have risen drastically. For that reason I think guns are not the root cause but rather political tension, ongoing poverty, media infamy, and other societal causes.\nMy view on this might change personally if we got all the reforms I wish we had. But the way this dialogue is going it looks like we'd just get the firearm bans and none of the police reform or social healthcare and that's a shit deal in my eyes.",
">\n\nIt’s interesting that some American think that taking away a gun is infringement of their rights while taking away a persons freedom to go freely into society isn’t.",
">\n\nWhat freedom to go into society is taken away?",
">\n\nThat’s the point. People are afraid to venture out. People live in fear that a group setting may be the next mass shooting. That’s not freedom.",
">\n\nNo one is stopping you from venturing out, except you.",
">\n\nK bro…",
">\n\nThat’s cool. Now let’s get more like him. Maybe in 50 years we can finally repeal the 2nd amendment. Hopefully I’ll still be alive to see that day. Probably not though.",
">\n\nI'm for this guy. Fuck the 2A. We have a military that rivals any other countries, our citizens have no need for military hardware. Restrict it to single shot or breech loaders for hunting use, enact a buyback, and throw anyone caught with an illegal weapon in jail for max penalty.",
">\n\nYou think it’s a great idea for only police, military, and the people who direct their actions (i.e., people whose main goal in life is to grow their own power and influence) to have all the weapons?",
">\n\nWorks for other democracies.",
">\n\nIt looks like it’s been working okay post WW2. I am not sure we’re out of the woods yet. It’s not unreasonable to think we might encounter some destabilizing issues in the world in our lifetimes. That might change things. Seems like the kind of thing that’s working until suddenly it isn’t anymore. But there are other good reasons for civilians to own practical firearms. If you have good training and are well practiced, you can protect yourself very effectively. Any kind of help from law enforcement is going to take minutes to arrive (after you realize your life is in danger, and/if you manage to call them, if the system is working properly). That’s a long time to wait in life or death situations. Police can only protect you if protection is still applicable when they get there, and if they choose to. In most cases, they get there after whatever happens…",
">\n\nHow many people died of gun violence in Chicago this last wknd? How about you fix our inner cities? More people die of guns every weekend in Chicago than most mass shootings. I thought “Black Lives Matter”? You know damn well that’s a fkn lie.",
">\n\nThey’re not ready for that convo",
">\n\nWas he at UT when he’ll rained down from the tower, or is he just another ignorant self-promoter?",
">\n\nSo...what are your solutions buddy?"
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