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> Ray Epps is on tape clearly in two separate events inciting storming the Capital. The crowd even yell back at him chanting the mantra "Fed, Fed, Fed, Fed" So with all these protesters (I'm sorry.... "Insurrectionists" ) going to jail for terms up to four years...... What the hell happened to this guy? He says he was sorry he got it wrong. He thought the building was open to the public. That's it???? C'mon Man!!!!!!
[ "r/LeopardsAteMyFace", ">\n\nAnd then he goes on to regurgitate the lies fed to him about antifa being embedded instigators on Jan 6th.\n\"I can't believe these politicians are spreading lies about me\"\nBut also...\n\"I still believe this particular subset of lies spread by these very same politicians\"", ">\n\n\n\"We had a tour bus come by our home and our business with all these whacked out people in it,\" Epps said. \"There are good people out there that was in Washington. Those aren't the people that's coming by our house. This attracts — when they do this sort of thing, this attracts all the crazies out there.\"\n\nSays the man who stormed the capitol for a known conman", ">\n\nBoy he almost gets it", ">\n\nAlmost.", ">\n\nThat was my nickname in college!", ">\n\nthat’s your name", ">\n\nThose theories did not ruin your life. All of us had equal access to those theories. Very few of us decided to attack the capitol ...... or believe the theories. This is on you. You. Just you.", ">\n\nImagine finding out at this late date that 45 is, was and will always be nothing more than a loud mouthed, foul, cheap ass, bigoted con man. And you threw away any honor you had left as a Marine and are facing significant jail time for being such an easily played tool.\nBitter pill. Somebody wanna tell him about the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus?", ">\n\nHe still hasn't found out, though. He's still defending Trump and repeating conspiracy theories about Jan 6.", ">\n\nYes, that was the point, the cognitive dissonance hasn't bitten him yet but it's coming. And it's gonna be a massive mind fuck or mind un-fuck. Prison gives one a goodly bit of time for reflection.", ">\n\nLet's hope it's a mind un-fuck so there's one less idiot out there. Now, I wonder how many crying nazis we'll get by the time this whole thing is over (assuming it ever is)? People are getting away with essentially slaps in the wrist, but some of those slaps are like 7 years. That's still no joke.", ">\n\n\nEven after telling the committee how conspiracy theories had torn apart his life, Epps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that \"antifa\" had infiltrated the mob.\n\nWait, so after he spoke to committee and tried to explain what a “good guy” he was/is, he continued to spread The Big Lie after this? am I reading this correctly? \nAlso, earlier in this article it mentions he was “under the impression” the night before January 6 that the Capitol was going to be open to the public. Is he this stupid or was this another instance of right-wing disinformation that was spreading before January 6? Or maybe he’s just straight up lying.", ">\n\nThe military doesn't draw the best or the brightest but the easily manipulated followers flourish. Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do or die. And that they do in record numbers.", ">\n\nConspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him.", ">\n\n\nConspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him.\n\n\"Your leg is in a meat grinder.\"\n\"No it's not.\"\n\"Well...it obviously is.\"\n\"That's what the Deep State wants you to believe.\"\n\"Okay...fine...but maybe you could at least stop turning that crank?\"", ">\n\nHa.", ">\n\nHe still thinks Trump is a good guy who is just getting some bad info from his staff.\nThere are none so blind as those who will not see.", ">\n\nEasier for most people to blame everyone else, even made-up people, than admit they were wrong.", ">\n\n\"Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.\"\n\\~ John Kenneth Galbraith", ">\n\nJust the \"crazy\" ones though, right?", ">\n\nAlternate headline:\nMan From Party of 'Personal Responsibility' Incapable of Accepting Personal Responsibility", ">\n\nIt's never their fault, is it?", ">\n\nHe's just bummed because he ended up on the receiving end of the conspiratorial mob. Were he the one inflicting the torture he probably would still be fully on board.\nSame with Rusty Bowers. That MAGA trash only gave a shit when the mob came for HIM.", ">\n\nNo one put a gun to your head and forced you to believe in such obvious bullshit, Ray. You have free will and access to all the information the world has to offer. If you ended up delusional it’s your own damn fault for lacking the ability to think clearly and critically as a supposedly functioning adult. And it’s DEFINITELY your fault for supporting Trump after all we know about him\nMaybe listen to the millions and millions of people who say something is a bad idea before believing the first person who tells you something you want to hear", ">\n\nOver at r/conspiracy they're convinced that this is the guy that got thousands of people to storm the Capitol and not the guy who tweeted \"be there ... will be wild\"", ">\n\n\nPro-Trump protester\n\nGood thing NBC News isn't normalizing terrorism and sedition.", ">\n\nEnjoy prison, traitor.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nAnd yet he's still a republican.. some people don't have the ability to learn.", ">\n\nThe only qualification to be republican, is to be hateful and swear to take down the libruls... he will always be a republican", ">\n\n\nEpps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that \"antifa\" had infiltrated the mob.\n\nWhen are the Antifa meetings and are there snacks? Because I am very anti-facists", ">\n\nNo, YOU tore apart your life. You’re saying the match was the source of your problems, not the fact that every day you walked around with your britches full of more and more dynamite.", ">\n\nWell he's not in jail and that's the most important part. Seems like he got the best outcome possible from his part in it", ">\n\nPoor fellow", ">\n\nTake my upvote. Still chuckling.", ">\n\nRay Epps got labeled a FBI mole just because MAGAs were desperate for shifting blame away from themselves and Trump. The \"proof\" they needed was that he \"looked\" like a FED, what ever that means.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nHe wasn't a primary instigator and if you read the article you would see he was trying to de-escalate things on Jan 6th and didn't even enter the capitol building.", ">\n\nWhich came first; The conspiracy theory or the conspiracy theorist?", ">\n\nSomething something leopards eat faces something.", ">\n\nWell I heard the conspiracy stories too and just thought….Well THAT’S stupid! And went on my way.", ">\n\nI agree dumb people usually are dismissive", ">\n\nWhere are you on the whole, \"Jewish space lasers\" thing?", ">\n\nI'd have to read into that never heard of it", ">\n\nI hear crazy conspiracy theories every day.\nNo, **HE** tore apart his OWN life.", ">\n\nI’m convinced that this country is full of people that never followed the news or learned to be media literate. Too busy with a family, into sports or video games or whatever. When Covid hit they were all at home trying to figure out what was happening, and since they lacked any skill at discerning truth from fiction they lost their collective minds down the rabbit hole of Q and the self-serving lies of the president.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nAlways so funny when a true believer gets sacrificed by the rest of his cult on the altar of “he’s a plant!” Almost as if this is not a belief system held by serious people…", ">\n\nToo late for crocodile tears", ">\n\nHe sounds like he has the intellect of a 9 year old.", ">\n\nIt must really suck having crazy people show up at your work and threaten you huh?", ">\n\nOh really and I bet your still following your crazy conspiracies?", ">\n\nThis guy is all over video telling people to go into the Capitol. Was actually on site directing traffic. He's not in jail, never even arrested. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nJust so you know, the Jan 6 \"truthers\" think Ray Epps was an FBI plant whose job it was to provoke the otherwise \"peaceful protesters\" into starting some shit.\nEDIT: Look below, I found one already!", ">\n\nThis theory is hilarious. They think Ray Epps was capable of single handedly driving the mob to attack the capitol. But despite this almost other-worldly talent, the FBI has kept him laying in wait for 30 years since leaving the Marine Corps. And he wasn't rusty at all. On Jan. 6 he got the crowd to do his bidding in only a few hours, and then returned to his undercover identity in the Arizona desert.", ">\n\nRandom dude shouting on a street corner had the ability to use his carnival barking to direct a mob of thousands into attacking the capital he is totally responsible. \nBut the sitting president of the United States explicitly at a rally with written out plans passed & communicates months in advance directing his supporters to the capital and explicit vocal instructions to attack the capital, he totally is not responsible. \nThe logic of these wing bats. These are illiberals not conservatives.", ">\n\nWhy do people keep claiming that antifa infiltrated this or staged it? Is there even any actual evidence of that? Why is that theory easier to believe than that these rioters were actually Trump supporters / election deniers, many of whom have had their identities revealed in the investigation?\nTo clarify: I do not believe that antifa is responsible I just wanna know where this BS comes from.", ">\n\nBecause the party of personal responsibility means you take responsibility. They don't have to. And they spin conspiracy yarns because they're special little snowflakes who melt under the slightest but of pushback, so they create theories like this to spare their precious little fee-fees.", ">\n\nLol I agree. I just wanna know what ‘proof’ has been offered to these people (if any) to support this crap. My dad 100% believes antifa and Nancy Pelosi orchestrated this whole thing. He said he knows it’s true because “Republicans just don’t act this way; Democrats do.” My eyes about rolled out of my head.", ">\n\nDid the committee withdrawal Trumps subpoena? Why can’t I find that anywhere except for friggin right-wing sites?", ">\n\nYes. It's just part of wrapping up the investigations before the GOP shuts it down.", ">\n\nBummer. Thanks for the info.", ">\n\nHow has he not been arrested...?\nDude is on video telling people to go into the Capitol on the 5th and 6th", ">\n\nNew offenders are being arrested each week.\nHe doesn't appear to have directly attacked the police or entered the Capitol Building.\nSo he should get scooped up in time.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nSo you're telling me that known Antifa double agent and government plant, Ray Epps, is upset that MTG and her ilk are painting him as a turncoat and traitor. I sure hope he gets the government protection he deserves as a known government agent. We really need to protect the sane MAGA types from all those bad actor MAGAs.", ">\n\nWell, he should get 10 years in a concrete cell to rethink his life choices.", ">\n\nNo one seconds this on the left which is the biggest red flag", ">\n\nI don't have a lot of sympathy since he's still spewing disinformation himself.", ">\n\nThe company you keep …", ">\n\nYes well, it’s still on you for believing them in the first place", ">\n\nGood. I hope he is alone and miserable for the rest of his life", ">\n\n“Epps specifically pointed to Republican Reps. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Matt Gaetz of Florida and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia as members who spread lies about him.” No shit…", ">\n\nWhat's that smell?", ">\n\nHe sounds like he has the intellect of a 9 year old.", ">\n\n\"I never intended...\" that's a criminal law trial classic." ]
> Still trapped.
[ "r/LeopardsAteMyFace", ">\n\nAnd then he goes on to regurgitate the lies fed to him about antifa being embedded instigators on Jan 6th.\n\"I can't believe these politicians are spreading lies about me\"\nBut also...\n\"I still believe this particular subset of lies spread by these very same politicians\"", ">\n\n\n\"We had a tour bus come by our home and our business with all these whacked out people in it,\" Epps said. \"There are good people out there that was in Washington. Those aren't the people that's coming by our house. This attracts — when they do this sort of thing, this attracts all the crazies out there.\"\n\nSays the man who stormed the capitol for a known conman", ">\n\nBoy he almost gets it", ">\n\nAlmost.", ">\n\nThat was my nickname in college!", ">\n\nthat’s your name", ">\n\nThose theories did not ruin your life. All of us had equal access to those theories. Very few of us decided to attack the capitol ...... or believe the theories. This is on you. You. Just you.", ">\n\nImagine finding out at this late date that 45 is, was and will always be nothing more than a loud mouthed, foul, cheap ass, bigoted con man. And you threw away any honor you had left as a Marine and are facing significant jail time for being such an easily played tool.\nBitter pill. Somebody wanna tell him about the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus?", ">\n\nHe still hasn't found out, though. He's still defending Trump and repeating conspiracy theories about Jan 6.", ">\n\nYes, that was the point, the cognitive dissonance hasn't bitten him yet but it's coming. And it's gonna be a massive mind fuck or mind un-fuck. Prison gives one a goodly bit of time for reflection.", ">\n\nLet's hope it's a mind un-fuck so there's one less idiot out there. Now, I wonder how many crying nazis we'll get by the time this whole thing is over (assuming it ever is)? People are getting away with essentially slaps in the wrist, but some of those slaps are like 7 years. That's still no joke.", ">\n\n\nEven after telling the committee how conspiracy theories had torn apart his life, Epps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that \"antifa\" had infiltrated the mob.\n\nWait, so after he spoke to committee and tried to explain what a “good guy” he was/is, he continued to spread The Big Lie after this? am I reading this correctly? \nAlso, earlier in this article it mentions he was “under the impression” the night before January 6 that the Capitol was going to be open to the public. Is he this stupid or was this another instance of right-wing disinformation that was spreading before January 6? Or maybe he’s just straight up lying.", ">\n\nThe military doesn't draw the best or the brightest but the easily manipulated followers flourish. Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do or die. And that they do in record numbers.", ">\n\nConspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him.", ">\n\n\nConspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him.\n\n\"Your leg is in a meat grinder.\"\n\"No it's not.\"\n\"Well...it obviously is.\"\n\"That's what the Deep State wants you to believe.\"\n\"Okay...fine...but maybe you could at least stop turning that crank?\"", ">\n\nHa.", ">\n\nHe still thinks Trump is a good guy who is just getting some bad info from his staff.\nThere are none so blind as those who will not see.", ">\n\nEasier for most people to blame everyone else, even made-up people, than admit they were wrong.", ">\n\n\"Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.\"\n\\~ John Kenneth Galbraith", ">\n\nJust the \"crazy\" ones though, right?", ">\n\nAlternate headline:\nMan From Party of 'Personal Responsibility' Incapable of Accepting Personal Responsibility", ">\n\nIt's never their fault, is it?", ">\n\nHe's just bummed because he ended up on the receiving end of the conspiratorial mob. Were he the one inflicting the torture he probably would still be fully on board.\nSame with Rusty Bowers. That MAGA trash only gave a shit when the mob came for HIM.", ">\n\nNo one put a gun to your head and forced you to believe in such obvious bullshit, Ray. You have free will and access to all the information the world has to offer. If you ended up delusional it’s your own damn fault for lacking the ability to think clearly and critically as a supposedly functioning adult. And it’s DEFINITELY your fault for supporting Trump after all we know about him\nMaybe listen to the millions and millions of people who say something is a bad idea before believing the first person who tells you something you want to hear", ">\n\nOver at r/conspiracy they're convinced that this is the guy that got thousands of people to storm the Capitol and not the guy who tweeted \"be there ... will be wild\"", ">\n\n\nPro-Trump protester\n\nGood thing NBC News isn't normalizing terrorism and sedition.", ">\n\nEnjoy prison, traitor.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nAnd yet he's still a republican.. some people don't have the ability to learn.", ">\n\nThe only qualification to be republican, is to be hateful and swear to take down the libruls... he will always be a republican", ">\n\n\nEpps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that \"antifa\" had infiltrated the mob.\n\nWhen are the Antifa meetings and are there snacks? Because I am very anti-facists", ">\n\nNo, YOU tore apart your life. You’re saying the match was the source of your problems, not the fact that every day you walked around with your britches full of more and more dynamite.", ">\n\nWell he's not in jail and that's the most important part. Seems like he got the best outcome possible from his part in it", ">\n\nPoor fellow", ">\n\nTake my upvote. Still chuckling.", ">\n\nRay Epps got labeled a FBI mole just because MAGAs were desperate for shifting blame away from themselves and Trump. The \"proof\" they needed was that he \"looked\" like a FED, what ever that means.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nHe wasn't a primary instigator and if you read the article you would see he was trying to de-escalate things on Jan 6th and didn't even enter the capitol building.", ">\n\nWhich came first; The conspiracy theory or the conspiracy theorist?", ">\n\nSomething something leopards eat faces something.", ">\n\nWell I heard the conspiracy stories too and just thought….Well THAT’S stupid! And went on my way.", ">\n\nI agree dumb people usually are dismissive", ">\n\nWhere are you on the whole, \"Jewish space lasers\" thing?", ">\n\nI'd have to read into that never heard of it", ">\n\nI hear crazy conspiracy theories every day.\nNo, **HE** tore apart his OWN life.", ">\n\nI’m convinced that this country is full of people that never followed the news or learned to be media literate. Too busy with a family, into sports or video games or whatever. When Covid hit they were all at home trying to figure out what was happening, and since they lacked any skill at discerning truth from fiction they lost their collective minds down the rabbit hole of Q and the self-serving lies of the president.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nAlways so funny when a true believer gets sacrificed by the rest of his cult on the altar of “he’s a plant!” Almost as if this is not a belief system held by serious people…", ">\n\nToo late for crocodile tears", ">\n\nHe sounds like he has the intellect of a 9 year old.", ">\n\nIt must really suck having crazy people show up at your work and threaten you huh?", ">\n\nOh really and I bet your still following your crazy conspiracies?", ">\n\nThis guy is all over video telling people to go into the Capitol. Was actually on site directing traffic. He's not in jail, never even arrested. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nJust so you know, the Jan 6 \"truthers\" think Ray Epps was an FBI plant whose job it was to provoke the otherwise \"peaceful protesters\" into starting some shit.\nEDIT: Look below, I found one already!", ">\n\nThis theory is hilarious. They think Ray Epps was capable of single handedly driving the mob to attack the capitol. But despite this almost other-worldly talent, the FBI has kept him laying in wait for 30 years since leaving the Marine Corps. And he wasn't rusty at all. On Jan. 6 he got the crowd to do his bidding in only a few hours, and then returned to his undercover identity in the Arizona desert.", ">\n\nRandom dude shouting on a street corner had the ability to use his carnival barking to direct a mob of thousands into attacking the capital he is totally responsible. \nBut the sitting president of the United States explicitly at a rally with written out plans passed & communicates months in advance directing his supporters to the capital and explicit vocal instructions to attack the capital, he totally is not responsible. \nThe logic of these wing bats. These are illiberals not conservatives.", ">\n\nWhy do people keep claiming that antifa infiltrated this or staged it? Is there even any actual evidence of that? Why is that theory easier to believe than that these rioters were actually Trump supporters / election deniers, many of whom have had their identities revealed in the investigation?\nTo clarify: I do not believe that antifa is responsible I just wanna know where this BS comes from.", ">\n\nBecause the party of personal responsibility means you take responsibility. They don't have to. And they spin conspiracy yarns because they're special little snowflakes who melt under the slightest but of pushback, so they create theories like this to spare their precious little fee-fees.", ">\n\nLol I agree. I just wanna know what ‘proof’ has been offered to these people (if any) to support this crap. My dad 100% believes antifa and Nancy Pelosi orchestrated this whole thing. He said he knows it’s true because “Republicans just don’t act this way; Democrats do.” My eyes about rolled out of my head.", ">\n\nDid the committee withdrawal Trumps subpoena? Why can’t I find that anywhere except for friggin right-wing sites?", ">\n\nYes. It's just part of wrapping up the investigations before the GOP shuts it down.", ">\n\nBummer. Thanks for the info.", ">\n\nHow has he not been arrested...?\nDude is on video telling people to go into the Capitol on the 5th and 6th", ">\n\nNew offenders are being arrested each week.\nHe doesn't appear to have directly attacked the police or entered the Capitol Building.\nSo he should get scooped up in time.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nSo you're telling me that known Antifa double agent and government plant, Ray Epps, is upset that MTG and her ilk are painting him as a turncoat and traitor. I sure hope he gets the government protection he deserves as a known government agent. We really need to protect the sane MAGA types from all those bad actor MAGAs.", ">\n\nWell, he should get 10 years in a concrete cell to rethink his life choices.", ">\n\nNo one seconds this on the left which is the biggest red flag", ">\n\nI don't have a lot of sympathy since he's still spewing disinformation himself.", ">\n\nThe company you keep …", ">\n\nYes well, it’s still on you for believing them in the first place", ">\n\nGood. I hope he is alone and miserable for the rest of his life", ">\n\n“Epps specifically pointed to Republican Reps. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Matt Gaetz of Florida and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia as members who spread lies about him.” No shit…", ">\n\nWhat's that smell?", ">\n\nHe sounds like he has the intellect of a 9 year old.", ">\n\n\"I never intended...\" that's a criminal law trial classic.", ">\n\nRay Epps is on tape clearly in two separate events inciting storming the Capital.\nThe crowd even yell back at him chanting the mantra \"Fed, Fed, Fed, Fed\"\nSo with all these protesters (I'm sorry.... \"Insurrectionists\" ) going to jail for terms up to four years...... What the hell happened to this guy?\nHe says he was sorry he got it wrong. He thought the building was open to the public.\nThat's it???? \nC'mon Man!!!!!!" ]
> This pleases me.
[ "r/LeopardsAteMyFace", ">\n\nAnd then he goes on to regurgitate the lies fed to him about antifa being embedded instigators on Jan 6th.\n\"I can't believe these politicians are spreading lies about me\"\nBut also...\n\"I still believe this particular subset of lies spread by these very same politicians\"", ">\n\n\n\"We had a tour bus come by our home and our business with all these whacked out people in it,\" Epps said. \"There are good people out there that was in Washington. Those aren't the people that's coming by our house. This attracts — when they do this sort of thing, this attracts all the crazies out there.\"\n\nSays the man who stormed the capitol for a known conman", ">\n\nBoy he almost gets it", ">\n\nAlmost.", ">\n\nThat was my nickname in college!", ">\n\nthat’s your name", ">\n\nThose theories did not ruin your life. All of us had equal access to those theories. Very few of us decided to attack the capitol ...... or believe the theories. This is on you. You. Just you.", ">\n\nImagine finding out at this late date that 45 is, was and will always be nothing more than a loud mouthed, foul, cheap ass, bigoted con man. And you threw away any honor you had left as a Marine and are facing significant jail time for being such an easily played tool.\nBitter pill. Somebody wanna tell him about the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus?", ">\n\nHe still hasn't found out, though. He's still defending Trump and repeating conspiracy theories about Jan 6.", ">\n\nYes, that was the point, the cognitive dissonance hasn't bitten him yet but it's coming. And it's gonna be a massive mind fuck or mind un-fuck. Prison gives one a goodly bit of time for reflection.", ">\n\nLet's hope it's a mind un-fuck so there's one less idiot out there. Now, I wonder how many crying nazis we'll get by the time this whole thing is over (assuming it ever is)? People are getting away with essentially slaps in the wrist, but some of those slaps are like 7 years. That's still no joke.", ">\n\n\nEven after telling the committee how conspiracy theories had torn apart his life, Epps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that \"antifa\" had infiltrated the mob.\n\nWait, so after he spoke to committee and tried to explain what a “good guy” he was/is, he continued to spread The Big Lie after this? am I reading this correctly? \nAlso, earlier in this article it mentions he was “under the impression” the night before January 6 that the Capitol was going to be open to the public. Is he this stupid or was this another instance of right-wing disinformation that was spreading before January 6? Or maybe he’s just straight up lying.", ">\n\nThe military doesn't draw the best or the brightest but the easily manipulated followers flourish. Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do or die. And that they do in record numbers.", ">\n\nConspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him.", ">\n\n\nConspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him.\n\n\"Your leg is in a meat grinder.\"\n\"No it's not.\"\n\"Well...it obviously is.\"\n\"That's what the Deep State wants you to believe.\"\n\"Okay...fine...but maybe you could at least stop turning that crank?\"", ">\n\nHa.", ">\n\nHe still thinks Trump is a good guy who is just getting some bad info from his staff.\nThere are none so blind as those who will not see.", ">\n\nEasier for most people to blame everyone else, even made-up people, than admit they were wrong.", ">\n\n\"Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.\"\n\\~ John Kenneth Galbraith", ">\n\nJust the \"crazy\" ones though, right?", ">\n\nAlternate headline:\nMan From Party of 'Personal Responsibility' Incapable of Accepting Personal Responsibility", ">\n\nIt's never their fault, is it?", ">\n\nHe's just bummed because he ended up on the receiving end of the conspiratorial mob. Were he the one inflicting the torture he probably would still be fully on board.\nSame with Rusty Bowers. That MAGA trash only gave a shit when the mob came for HIM.", ">\n\nNo one put a gun to your head and forced you to believe in such obvious bullshit, Ray. You have free will and access to all the information the world has to offer. If you ended up delusional it’s your own damn fault for lacking the ability to think clearly and critically as a supposedly functioning adult. And it’s DEFINITELY your fault for supporting Trump after all we know about him\nMaybe listen to the millions and millions of people who say something is a bad idea before believing the first person who tells you something you want to hear", ">\n\nOver at r/conspiracy they're convinced that this is the guy that got thousands of people to storm the Capitol and not the guy who tweeted \"be there ... will be wild\"", ">\n\n\nPro-Trump protester\n\nGood thing NBC News isn't normalizing terrorism and sedition.", ">\n\nEnjoy prison, traitor.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nAnd yet he's still a republican.. some people don't have the ability to learn.", ">\n\nThe only qualification to be republican, is to be hateful and swear to take down the libruls... he will always be a republican", ">\n\n\nEpps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that \"antifa\" had infiltrated the mob.\n\nWhen are the Antifa meetings and are there snacks? Because I am very anti-facists", ">\n\nNo, YOU tore apart your life. You’re saying the match was the source of your problems, not the fact that every day you walked around with your britches full of more and more dynamite.", ">\n\nWell he's not in jail and that's the most important part. Seems like he got the best outcome possible from his part in it", ">\n\nPoor fellow", ">\n\nTake my upvote. Still chuckling.", ">\n\nRay Epps got labeled a FBI mole just because MAGAs were desperate for shifting blame away from themselves and Trump. The \"proof\" they needed was that he \"looked\" like a FED, what ever that means.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nHe wasn't a primary instigator and if you read the article you would see he was trying to de-escalate things on Jan 6th and didn't even enter the capitol building.", ">\n\nWhich came first; The conspiracy theory or the conspiracy theorist?", ">\n\nSomething something leopards eat faces something.", ">\n\nWell I heard the conspiracy stories too and just thought….Well THAT’S stupid! And went on my way.", ">\n\nI agree dumb people usually are dismissive", ">\n\nWhere are you on the whole, \"Jewish space lasers\" thing?", ">\n\nI'd have to read into that never heard of it", ">\n\nI hear crazy conspiracy theories every day.\nNo, **HE** tore apart his OWN life.", ">\n\nI’m convinced that this country is full of people that never followed the news or learned to be media literate. Too busy with a family, into sports or video games or whatever. When Covid hit they were all at home trying to figure out what was happening, and since they lacked any skill at discerning truth from fiction they lost their collective minds down the rabbit hole of Q and the self-serving lies of the president.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nAlways so funny when a true believer gets sacrificed by the rest of his cult on the altar of “he’s a plant!” Almost as if this is not a belief system held by serious people…", ">\n\nToo late for crocodile tears", ">\n\nHe sounds like he has the intellect of a 9 year old.", ">\n\nIt must really suck having crazy people show up at your work and threaten you huh?", ">\n\nOh really and I bet your still following your crazy conspiracies?", ">\n\nThis guy is all over video telling people to go into the Capitol. Was actually on site directing traffic. He's not in jail, never even arrested. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nJust so you know, the Jan 6 \"truthers\" think Ray Epps was an FBI plant whose job it was to provoke the otherwise \"peaceful protesters\" into starting some shit.\nEDIT: Look below, I found one already!", ">\n\nThis theory is hilarious. They think Ray Epps was capable of single handedly driving the mob to attack the capitol. But despite this almost other-worldly talent, the FBI has kept him laying in wait for 30 years since leaving the Marine Corps. And he wasn't rusty at all. On Jan. 6 he got the crowd to do his bidding in only a few hours, and then returned to his undercover identity in the Arizona desert.", ">\n\nRandom dude shouting on a street corner had the ability to use his carnival barking to direct a mob of thousands into attacking the capital he is totally responsible. \nBut the sitting president of the United States explicitly at a rally with written out plans passed & communicates months in advance directing his supporters to the capital and explicit vocal instructions to attack the capital, he totally is not responsible. \nThe logic of these wing bats. These are illiberals not conservatives.", ">\n\nWhy do people keep claiming that antifa infiltrated this or staged it? Is there even any actual evidence of that? Why is that theory easier to believe than that these rioters were actually Trump supporters / election deniers, many of whom have had their identities revealed in the investigation?\nTo clarify: I do not believe that antifa is responsible I just wanna know where this BS comes from.", ">\n\nBecause the party of personal responsibility means you take responsibility. They don't have to. And they spin conspiracy yarns because they're special little snowflakes who melt under the slightest but of pushback, so they create theories like this to spare their precious little fee-fees.", ">\n\nLol I agree. I just wanna know what ‘proof’ has been offered to these people (if any) to support this crap. My dad 100% believes antifa and Nancy Pelosi orchestrated this whole thing. He said he knows it’s true because “Republicans just don’t act this way; Democrats do.” My eyes about rolled out of my head.", ">\n\nDid the committee withdrawal Trumps subpoena? Why can’t I find that anywhere except for friggin right-wing sites?", ">\n\nYes. It's just part of wrapping up the investigations before the GOP shuts it down.", ">\n\nBummer. Thanks for the info.", ">\n\nHow has he not been arrested...?\nDude is on video telling people to go into the Capitol on the 5th and 6th", ">\n\nNew offenders are being arrested each week.\nHe doesn't appear to have directly attacked the police or entered the Capitol Building.\nSo he should get scooped up in time.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nSo you're telling me that known Antifa double agent and government plant, Ray Epps, is upset that MTG and her ilk are painting him as a turncoat and traitor. I sure hope he gets the government protection he deserves as a known government agent. We really need to protect the sane MAGA types from all those bad actor MAGAs.", ">\n\nWell, he should get 10 years in a concrete cell to rethink his life choices.", ">\n\nNo one seconds this on the left which is the biggest red flag", ">\n\nI don't have a lot of sympathy since he's still spewing disinformation himself.", ">\n\nThe company you keep …", ">\n\nYes well, it’s still on you for believing them in the first place", ">\n\nGood. I hope he is alone and miserable for the rest of his life", ">\n\n“Epps specifically pointed to Republican Reps. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Matt Gaetz of Florida and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia as members who spread lies about him.” No shit…", ">\n\nWhat's that smell?", ">\n\nHe sounds like he has the intellect of a 9 year old.", ">\n\n\"I never intended...\" that's a criminal law trial classic.", ">\n\nRay Epps is on tape clearly in two separate events inciting storming the Capital.\nThe crowd even yell back at him chanting the mantra \"Fed, Fed, Fed, Fed\"\nSo with all these protesters (I'm sorry.... \"Insurrectionists\" ) going to jail for terms up to four years...... What the hell happened to this guy?\nHe says he was sorry he got it wrong. He thought the building was open to the public.\nThat's it???? \nC'mon Man!!!!!!", ">\n\nStill trapped." ]
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[ "r/LeopardsAteMyFace", ">\n\nAnd then he goes on to regurgitate the lies fed to him about antifa being embedded instigators on Jan 6th.\n\"I can't believe these politicians are spreading lies about me\"\nBut also...\n\"I still believe this particular subset of lies spread by these very same politicians\"", ">\n\n\n\"We had a tour bus come by our home and our business with all these whacked out people in it,\" Epps said. \"There are good people out there that was in Washington. Those aren't the people that's coming by our house. This attracts — when they do this sort of thing, this attracts all the crazies out there.\"\n\nSays the man who stormed the capitol for a known conman", ">\n\nBoy he almost gets it", ">\n\nAlmost.", ">\n\nThat was my nickname in college!", ">\n\nthat’s your name", ">\n\nThose theories did not ruin your life. All of us had equal access to those theories. Very few of us decided to attack the capitol ...... or believe the theories. This is on you. You. Just you.", ">\n\nImagine finding out at this late date that 45 is, was and will always be nothing more than a loud mouthed, foul, cheap ass, bigoted con man. And you threw away any honor you had left as a Marine and are facing significant jail time for being such an easily played tool.\nBitter pill. Somebody wanna tell him about the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy and Santa Claus?", ">\n\nHe still hasn't found out, though. He's still defending Trump and repeating conspiracy theories about Jan 6.", ">\n\nYes, that was the point, the cognitive dissonance hasn't bitten him yet but it's coming. And it's gonna be a massive mind fuck or mind un-fuck. Prison gives one a goodly bit of time for reflection.", ">\n\nLet's hope it's a mind un-fuck so there's one less idiot out there. Now, I wonder how many crying nazis we'll get by the time this whole thing is over (assuming it ever is)? People are getting away with essentially slaps in the wrist, but some of those slaps are like 7 years. That's still no joke.", ">\n\n\nEven after telling the committee how conspiracy theories had torn apart his life, Epps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that \"antifa\" had infiltrated the mob.\n\nWait, so after he spoke to committee and tried to explain what a “good guy” he was/is, he continued to spread The Big Lie after this? am I reading this correctly? \nAlso, earlier in this article it mentions he was “under the impression” the night before January 6 that the Capitol was going to be open to the public. Is he this stupid or was this another instance of right-wing disinformation that was spreading before January 6? Or maybe he’s just straight up lying.", ">\n\nThe military doesn't draw the best or the brightest but the easily manipulated followers flourish. Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do or die. And that they do in record numbers.", ">\n\nConspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him.", ">\n\n\nConspiracy theorist angry that other conspiracy theorists came for him.\n\n\"Your leg is in a meat grinder.\"\n\"No it's not.\"\n\"Well...it obviously is.\"\n\"That's what the Deep State wants you to believe.\"\n\"Okay...fine...but maybe you could at least stop turning that crank?\"", ">\n\nHa.", ">\n\nHe still thinks Trump is a good guy who is just getting some bad info from his staff.\nThere are none so blind as those who will not see.", ">\n\nEasier for most people to blame everyone else, even made-up people, than admit they were wrong.", ">\n\n\"Faced with the choice between changing one’s mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.\"\n\\~ John Kenneth Galbraith", ">\n\nJust the \"crazy\" ones though, right?", ">\n\nAlternate headline:\nMan From Party of 'Personal Responsibility' Incapable of Accepting Personal Responsibility", ">\n\nIt's never their fault, is it?", ">\n\nHe's just bummed because he ended up on the receiving end of the conspiratorial mob. Were he the one inflicting the torture he probably would still be fully on board.\nSame with Rusty Bowers. That MAGA trash only gave a shit when the mob came for HIM.", ">\n\nNo one put a gun to your head and forced you to believe in such obvious bullshit, Ray. You have free will and access to all the information the world has to offer. If you ended up delusional it’s your own damn fault for lacking the ability to think clearly and critically as a supposedly functioning adult. And it’s DEFINITELY your fault for supporting Trump after all we know about him\nMaybe listen to the millions and millions of people who say something is a bad idea before believing the first person who tells you something you want to hear", ">\n\nOver at r/conspiracy they're convinced that this is the guy that got thousands of people to storm the Capitol and not the guy who tweeted \"be there ... will be wild\"", ">\n\n\nPro-Trump protester\n\nGood thing NBC News isn't normalizing terrorism and sedition.", ">\n\nEnjoy prison, traitor.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nAnd yet he's still a republican.. some people don't have the ability to learn.", ">\n\nThe only qualification to be republican, is to be hateful and swear to take down the libruls... he will always be a republican", ">\n\n\nEpps continued to repeat other unfounded claims about the 2020 election including that \"antifa\" had infiltrated the mob.\n\nWhen are the Antifa meetings and are there snacks? Because I am very anti-facists", ">\n\nNo, YOU tore apart your life. You’re saying the match was the source of your problems, not the fact that every day you walked around with your britches full of more and more dynamite.", ">\n\nWell he's not in jail and that's the most important part. Seems like he got the best outcome possible from his part in it", ">\n\nPoor fellow", ">\n\nTake my upvote. Still chuckling.", ">\n\nRay Epps got labeled a FBI mole just because MAGAs were desperate for shifting blame away from themselves and Trump. The \"proof\" they needed was that he \"looked\" like a FED, what ever that means.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nHe wasn't a primary instigator and if you read the article you would see he was trying to de-escalate things on Jan 6th and didn't even enter the capitol building.", ">\n\nWhich came first; The conspiracy theory or the conspiracy theorist?", ">\n\nSomething something leopards eat faces something.", ">\n\nWell I heard the conspiracy stories too and just thought….Well THAT’S stupid! And went on my way.", ">\n\nI agree dumb people usually are dismissive", ">\n\nWhere are you on the whole, \"Jewish space lasers\" thing?", ">\n\nI'd have to read into that never heard of it", ">\n\nI hear crazy conspiracy theories every day.\nNo, **HE** tore apart his OWN life.", ">\n\nI’m convinced that this country is full of people that never followed the news or learned to be media literate. Too busy with a family, into sports or video games or whatever. When Covid hit they were all at home trying to figure out what was happening, and since they lacked any skill at discerning truth from fiction they lost their collective minds down the rabbit hole of Q and the self-serving lies of the president.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nAlways so funny when a true believer gets sacrificed by the rest of his cult on the altar of “he’s a plant!” Almost as if this is not a belief system held by serious people…", ">\n\nToo late for crocodile tears", ">\n\nHe sounds like he has the intellect of a 9 year old.", ">\n\nIt must really suck having crazy people show up at your work and threaten you huh?", ">\n\nOh really and I bet your still following your crazy conspiracies?", ">\n\nThis guy is all over video telling people to go into the Capitol. Was actually on site directing traffic. He's not in jail, never even arrested. Ridiculous.", ">\n\nJust so you know, the Jan 6 \"truthers\" think Ray Epps was an FBI plant whose job it was to provoke the otherwise \"peaceful protesters\" into starting some shit.\nEDIT: Look below, I found one already!", ">\n\nThis theory is hilarious. They think Ray Epps was capable of single handedly driving the mob to attack the capitol. But despite this almost other-worldly talent, the FBI has kept him laying in wait for 30 years since leaving the Marine Corps. And he wasn't rusty at all. On Jan. 6 he got the crowd to do his bidding in only a few hours, and then returned to his undercover identity in the Arizona desert.", ">\n\nRandom dude shouting on a street corner had the ability to use his carnival barking to direct a mob of thousands into attacking the capital he is totally responsible. \nBut the sitting president of the United States explicitly at a rally with written out plans passed & communicates months in advance directing his supporters to the capital and explicit vocal instructions to attack the capital, he totally is not responsible. \nThe logic of these wing bats. These are illiberals not conservatives.", ">\n\nWhy do people keep claiming that antifa infiltrated this or staged it? Is there even any actual evidence of that? Why is that theory easier to believe than that these rioters were actually Trump supporters / election deniers, many of whom have had their identities revealed in the investigation?\nTo clarify: I do not believe that antifa is responsible I just wanna know where this BS comes from.", ">\n\nBecause the party of personal responsibility means you take responsibility. They don't have to. And they spin conspiracy yarns because they're special little snowflakes who melt under the slightest but of pushback, so they create theories like this to spare their precious little fee-fees.", ">\n\nLol I agree. I just wanna know what ‘proof’ has been offered to these people (if any) to support this crap. My dad 100% believes antifa and Nancy Pelosi orchestrated this whole thing. He said he knows it’s true because “Republicans just don’t act this way; Democrats do.” My eyes about rolled out of my head.", ">\n\nDid the committee withdrawal Trumps subpoena? Why can’t I find that anywhere except for friggin right-wing sites?", ">\n\nYes. It's just part of wrapping up the investigations before the GOP shuts it down.", ">\n\nBummer. Thanks for the info.", ">\n\nHow has he not been arrested...?\nDude is on video telling people to go into the Capitol on the 5th and 6th", ">\n\nNew offenders are being arrested each week.\nHe doesn't appear to have directly attacked the police or entered the Capitol Building.\nSo he should get scooped up in time.", ">\n\nFor being the primary instigator there, his part was quickly dismissed by FBI even before the committee was put together and record deleted while people who did less get 20+ yrs. If that could be cleared up I'm sure people would put to rest the conspiracy", ">\n\nSo you're telling me that known Antifa double agent and government plant, Ray Epps, is upset that MTG and her ilk are painting him as a turncoat and traitor. I sure hope he gets the government protection he deserves as a known government agent. We really need to protect the sane MAGA types from all those bad actor MAGAs.", ">\n\nWell, he should get 10 years in a concrete cell to rethink his life choices.", ">\n\nNo one seconds this on the left which is the biggest red flag", ">\n\nI don't have a lot of sympathy since he's still spewing disinformation himself.", ">\n\nThe company you keep …", ">\n\nYes well, it’s still on you for believing them in the first place", ">\n\nGood. I hope he is alone and miserable for the rest of his life", ">\n\n“Epps specifically pointed to Republican Reps. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, Matt Gaetz of Florida and Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia as members who spread lies about him.” No shit…", ">\n\nWhat's that smell?", ">\n\nHe sounds like he has the intellect of a 9 year old.", ">\n\n\"I never intended...\" that's a criminal law trial classic.", ">\n\nRay Epps is on tape clearly in two separate events inciting storming the Capital.\nThe crowd even yell back at him chanting the mantra \"Fed, Fed, Fed, Fed\"\nSo with all these protesters (I'm sorry.... \"Insurrectionists\" ) going to jail for terms up to four years...... What the hell happened to this guy?\nHe says he was sorry he got it wrong. He thought the building was open to the public.\nThat's it???? \nC'mon Man!!!!!!", ">\n\nStill trapped.", ">\n\nThis pleases me." ]
... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?
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> Gives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?" ]
> It's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing." ]
> A week and a half gives time for: Retraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs) Creating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements Allows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there) Allows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?" ]
> (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there) No airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs." ]
> A lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day" ]
> Heck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well." ]
> Coming from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight" ]
> And depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air." ]
> JFK / EWR Currently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember." ]
> I thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air." ]
> Silly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?" ]
> This study was specifically about omicron
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn." ]
> Then it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron" ]
> Your link is a blog
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link" ]
> No, it is not.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog" ]
> Here we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not." ]
> There was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway." ]
> No but it flatten the curve. Unlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread" ]
> Actually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system." ]
> Problem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve" ]
> China gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face." ]
> Yeah too late bud…wtf
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again." ]
> Should’ve always required it
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf" ]
> I don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. ...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'. But still.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it" ]
> It isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. Also, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still." ]
> Even if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data." ]
> All I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying." ]
> Thanks again for the COVID, China.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards." ]
> Remember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed? Remember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok? Maybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. Reality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China." ]
> Do you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have." ]
> And who trusts a COVID test result from China?
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question." ]
> I hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?" ]
> 3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked" ]
> You know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese." ]
> For the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip." ]
> It's (D)ifferent this time
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago." ]
> Very convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time" ]
> So we care now and not for the past year
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there" ]
> It was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year" ]
> too late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer "originating" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people. and that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable." ]
> Watching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally." ]
> Why the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic." ]
> Why can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants ." ]
> So a Chinese national living in Canada should be "banned" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?" ]
> Nope. They can stay there too for a while
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?" ]
> Lol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while" ]
> Worship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments" ]
> Why did you vote for Biden and not Trump?
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you." ]
> Looking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?" ]
> Pelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks" ]
> I’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?" ]
> That's kinda xenophobic
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…" ]
> Nope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic" ]
> Or just walk over the southern border…..:-/
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights." ]
> yeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/" ]
> No shit r/woosh lmao
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao" ]
> Xenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao" ]
> They don't trust PRC government numbers to begin with, how do they expect to trust those "negative test". Can be easily faked...
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao", ">\n\nXenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh" ]
> RIGHT NOW! Don't wait to start it. And test before and after flight
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao", ">\n\nXenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh", ">\n\nThey don't trust PRC government numbers to begin with, how do they expect to trust those \"negative test\". Can be easily faked..." ]
> Racism rears its ugly head once again. I hope chinese citizens stop going to america and giving their hard earned money to a country of racists
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao", ">\n\nXenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh", ">\n\nThey don't trust PRC government numbers to begin with, how do they expect to trust those \"negative test\". Can be easily faked...", ">\n\nRIGHT NOW! Don't wait to start it. And test before and after flight" ]
> We don't want to be shut down again for your perceived racism. So many people died in the US alone and now we're seeing exactly what started the outbreak again and you want to call i racism to just require them to test negative?! If it were a full ban i could MAYBE see it. But the only thing stopping them is literally getting COVID
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao", ">\n\nXenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh", ">\n\nThey don't trust PRC government numbers to begin with, how do they expect to trust those \"negative test\". Can be easily faked...", ">\n\nRIGHT NOW! Don't wait to start it. And test before and after flight", ">\n\nRacism rears its ugly head once again. I hope chinese citizens stop going to america and giving their hard earned money to a country of racists" ]
> I'm actually surprised that there's a 1-5 date and not further down the calender.
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao", ">\n\nXenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh", ">\n\nThey don't trust PRC government numbers to begin with, how do they expect to trust those \"negative test\". Can be easily faked...", ">\n\nRIGHT NOW! Don't wait to start it. And test before and after flight", ">\n\nRacism rears its ugly head once again. I hope chinese citizens stop going to america and giving their hard earned money to a country of racists", ">\n\nWe don't want to be shut down again for your perceived racism. So many people died in the US alone and now we're seeing exactly what started the outbreak again and you want to call i racism to just require them to test negative?! If it were a full ban i could MAYBE see it. But the only thing stopping them is literally getting COVID" ]
> Just go through London first, np
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao", ">\n\nXenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh", ">\n\nThey don't trust PRC government numbers to begin with, how do they expect to trust those \"negative test\". Can be easily faked...", ">\n\nRIGHT NOW! Don't wait to start it. And test before and after flight", ">\n\nRacism rears its ugly head once again. I hope chinese citizens stop going to america and giving their hard earned money to a country of racists", ">\n\nWe don't want to be shut down again for your perceived racism. So many people died in the US alone and now we're seeing exactly what started the outbreak again and you want to call i racism to just require them to test negative?! If it were a full ban i could MAYBE see it. But the only thing stopping them is literally getting COVID", ">\n\nI'm actually surprised that there's a 1-5 date and not further down the calender." ]
> “Lombard health chief Guido Bertolaso said that on the first two flights from China that were screened for coronavirus, 46% of passengers tested positive” … wow
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao", ">\n\nXenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh", ">\n\nThey don't trust PRC government numbers to begin with, how do they expect to trust those \"negative test\". Can be easily faked...", ">\n\nRIGHT NOW! Don't wait to start it. And test before and after flight", ">\n\nRacism rears its ugly head once again. I hope chinese citizens stop going to america and giving their hard earned money to a country of racists", ">\n\nWe don't want to be shut down again for your perceived racism. So many people died in the US alone and now we're seeing exactly what started the outbreak again and you want to call i racism to just require them to test negative?! If it were a full ban i could MAYBE see it. But the only thing stopping them is literally getting COVID", ">\n\nI'm actually surprised that there's a 1-5 date and not further down the calender.", ">\n\nJust go through London first, np" ]
> I'm old enough to remember when this was considered xenophobic
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao", ">\n\nXenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh", ">\n\nThey don't trust PRC government numbers to begin with, how do they expect to trust those \"negative test\". Can be easily faked...", ">\n\nRIGHT NOW! Don't wait to start it. And test before and after flight", ">\n\nRacism rears its ugly head once again. I hope chinese citizens stop going to america and giving their hard earned money to a country of racists", ">\n\nWe don't want to be shut down again for your perceived racism. So many people died in the US alone and now we're seeing exactly what started the outbreak again and you want to call i racism to just require them to test negative?! If it were a full ban i could MAYBE see it. But the only thing stopping them is literally getting COVID", ">\n\nI'm actually surprised that there's a 1-5 date and not further down the calender.", ">\n\nJust go through London first, np", ">\n\n“Lombard health chief Guido Bertolaso said that on the first two flights from China that were screened for coronavirus, 46% of passengers tested positive”\n… wow" ]
>
[ "... starting January 5. Why not starting right now??!?", ">\n\nGives time to get materials into place, is the only thing I can think of. But really it should be a temporary ban until the 5th. Then do the testing.", ">\n\nIt's not like we've not been in this situation before. We've had 2.5 years of practice. Surely we can move faster this time around?", ">\n\nA week and a half gives time for:\n\nRetraining (Lots of people have been switching jobs)\nCreating/printing materials for people to read to understand requirements\nAllows for the literal air to clear (Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\nAllows for those who visited family in China over the end of the year to make it back to the US even if they are starting to have signs.", ">\n\n\n(Can’t do it immediately as people are still in the air from there)\n\nNo airliner stays in the air for even 1 full day", ">\n\nA lot of international flights are overnight though. Plus you have to contend with the international date line as well.", ">\n\nHeck, going from Hawaii to Pennsylvania is an overnight trip even if you leave at 12pm. International has to be overnight", ">\n\nComing from China to the USA you land around the same time you took off on the same day. Roughly 12-14 hours in the air.", ">\n\nAnd depending on when that is, it is an overnight. The longest is to Singapore from a certain point of the world can't remember.", ">\n\nJFK / EWR\nCurrently you can hop on a plane in JFK > SSS > LAX > JFK. RTW with minimum amount of planes, 41 hours 50 minutes in the air.", ">\n\nI thought something similar was deemed xenophobic?", ">\n\nSilly. Should be negative covid test for any international travelers. Like someone from China can't go anywhere else, infect someone, then that person comes here. We never learn.", ">\n\nThis study was specifically about omicron", ">\n\nThen it's an outlier which doesn't reflect the consensus, which is accurately reflected by my link", ">\n\nYour link is a blog", ">\n\nNo, it is not.", ">\n\nHere we go again, the same mistakes from 2 years ago from doing things halfway.", ">\n\nThere was never a way to do things full throttle because of a desire to preserve the economy plus the vaccine didn't stop the spread", ">\n\nNo but it flatten the curve.\nUnlike China currently speed running to make the fucking largest curve ever, overwhelming their shitty healthcare system.", ">\n\nActually, people staying at home and isolating is what flattened the curve", ">\n\nProblem is they still won’t acknowledge their vaccine sucked and refuse to accept help from anyone. So hell bend on saving face.", ">\n\nChina gonna make a new variant because they're too prideful of western vaccine. They going to start the new year 2023 by fucking the world over again.", ">\n\nYeah too late bud…wtf", ">\n\nShould’ve always required it", ">\n\nI don't think this will convince Beijing to be honest about their data, so it's a bit on the hollow side as a gesture. \n...Mostly because I don't think anything will, granted. Too obsessed with projecting 'strength'.\nBut still.", ">\n\nIt isn't about stopping spread with this move. It is about making sure you don't have hundreds of thousands of infected streaming into the country over a short period of time causing a bit of spread that taxes the medical system a bit. \nAlso, it pressures China to share their data instead of saying only 7 have died in December. Simply put, they're not being a good partner by holding back current data.", ">\n\nEven if they did share data, people would just screech that China is lying.", ">\n\nAll I can see is a huge increase in fake COVID tests/test cards.", ">\n\nThanks again for the COVID, China.", ">\n\nRemember when Biden called Trump a xenophobe for doing this and a bunch of morons with no understanding of politics on social media agreed?\nRemember when it was xenophobic to want to ban TikTok?\nMaybe, just maybe, we will form political opinions based on facts, and not based on partisanship and party tribalism. \nReality isn't just red vs blue, and the sooner we stop acting like it is, the less issues we'll have.", ">\n\nDo you have a source for Biden calling trump a xenophobe for requiring a negative covid test to travel? Genuine question.", ">\n\nAnd who trusts a COVID test result from China?", ">\n\nI hope this doesn’t lead to another wave of Asian Americans getting attacked", ">\n\n3/4th of hate crimes against Asian people are from white perpetrators, but go off. It’s not like you actually care either way, you just hate black people. And probably Asian people too, especially if they’re Chinese.", ">\n\nYou know those will be faked unless they happen on this end of the trip.", ">\n\nFor the record, this is the same shit Biden criticized Trump for two years ago.", ">\n\nIt's (D)ifferent this time", ">\n\nVery convenient of China to release their citizens when the virus is out of control there", ">\n\nSo we care now and not for the past year", ">\n\nIt was racist to care before now. Now it's just acceptable.", ">\n\ntoo late and too weak. all you need to do is buy two tickets. one from china to a non-restrictive country. that country to the US. you are no longer \"originating\" from China. no tests needed and you get to spread covid to more people.\nand that is too ignore why any travel restrictions would do any good considering we already have a ton of spread internally.", ">\n\nWatching Biden make these mistakes when we can see Trump's mistakes is honestly pathetic.", ">\n\nWhy the wait ?, China has never been honest about their Covid numbers and there will be waves of infected Chinese across the world bringing more infection and new variants .", ">\n\nWhy can’t the US just ban the Chinese (like how China essentially banned the world the past few years), until their COVID shit show (that the rest of the world has already gone through) is over?", ">\n\nSo a Chinese national living in Canada should be \"banned\" to punish them, but an American who's been living in China should be allowed to return because they're one of us?", ">\n\nNope. They can stay there too for a while", ">\n\nLol it will only be racist if trump did it lol. I'm waiting with popcorn to see the shit show in the comments", ">\n\nWorship not even close. The media hypocrisy is what I don't like. Voted for biden anyways. Just remember believe everything the media tells you.", ">\n\nWhy did you vote for Biden and not Trump?", ">\n\nLooking for change in leadership. 2 terms lead to lame ducks", ">\n\nPelosi going to Chinatown to protest the xenophobia?", ">\n\nI’m sorry but how are they requiring them for international travelers but they won’t even require them for domestic flights? That’s lazy bs…", ">\n\nThat's kinda xenophobic", ">\n\nNope, just good sense. Any country sending huge numbers of infected people on airplanes should be testing their people before flights.", ">\n\nOr just walk over the southern border…..:-/", ">\n\nyeah, vacationers from china aren’t going to fly to mexico and illegally cross the southern border just so they don’t have to take a covid test lmao", ">\n\nNo shit r/woosh lmao", ">\n\nXenophobia starts on Jan 5. /smh", ">\n\nThey don't trust PRC government numbers to begin with, how do they expect to trust those \"negative test\". Can be easily faked...", ">\n\nRIGHT NOW! Don't wait to start it. And test before and after flight", ">\n\nRacism rears its ugly head once again. I hope chinese citizens stop going to america and giving their hard earned money to a country of racists", ">\n\nWe don't want to be shut down again for your perceived racism. So many people died in the US alone and now we're seeing exactly what started the outbreak again and you want to call i racism to just require them to test negative?! If it were a full ban i could MAYBE see it. But the only thing stopping them is literally getting COVID", ">\n\nI'm actually surprised that there's a 1-5 date and not further down the calender.", ">\n\nJust go through London first, np", ">\n\n“Lombard health chief Guido Bertolaso said that on the first two flights from China that were screened for coronavirus, 46% of passengers tested positive”\n… wow", ">\n\nI'm old enough to remember when this was considered xenophobic" ]
Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?
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> If you read the article, it says... "The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program." Oh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary... Family of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented National response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say 'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019 Indigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive Report: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade Indigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?" ]
> The fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here. Instead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights" ]
> We ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. That was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people." ]
> Correcting the issue one race at a time, then.
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?" ]
> The issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then." ]
> Texas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert. There's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign.
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280." ]
> Well, to be fair, it is a Camo alert. It’s difficult to see.
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.", ">\n\nTexas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert.\nThere's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign." ]
> Yeah, but not as difficult as the stealth alerts. Man, those ones are tough to spot...
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.", ">\n\nTexas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert.\nThere's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign.", ">\n\nWell, to be fair, it is a Camo alert. It’s difficult to see." ]
> It's the Cena alerts that really get you.
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.", ">\n\nTexas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert.\nThere's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign.", ">\n\nWell, to be fair, it is a Camo alert. It’s difficult to see.", ">\n\nYeah, but not as difficult as the stealth alerts. Man, those ones are tough to spot..." ]
> What conditions make it necessary to distinguish these from the general category of missing persons?
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.", ">\n\nTexas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert.\nThere's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign.", ">\n\nWell, to be fair, it is a Camo alert. It’s difficult to see.", ">\n\nYeah, but not as difficult as the stealth alerts. Man, those ones are tough to spot...", ">\n\nIt's the Cena alerts that really get you." ]
> It’s worth mentioning that indigenous women face an incredibly high level of violence, and face unique challenges to getting judging. Chief among these are public law 280. This video offers a good explanation.
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.", ">\n\nTexas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert.\nThere's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign.", ">\n\nWell, to be fair, it is a Camo alert. It’s difficult to see.", ">\n\nYeah, but not as difficult as the stealth alerts. Man, those ones are tough to spot...", ">\n\nIt's the Cena alerts that really get you.", ">\n\nWhat conditions make it necessary to distinguish these from the general category of missing persons?" ]
> Cool! Hopefully it will prove helpful!
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.", ">\n\nTexas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert.\nThere's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign.", ">\n\nWell, to be fair, it is a Camo alert. It’s difficult to see.", ">\n\nYeah, but not as difficult as the stealth alerts. Man, those ones are tough to spot...", ">\n\nIt's the Cena alerts that really get you.", ">\n\nWhat conditions make it necessary to distinguish these from the general category of missing persons?", ">\n\nIt’s worth mentioning that indigenous women face an incredibly high level of violence, and face unique challenges to getting judging. Chief among these are public law 280. This video offers a good explanation." ]
> Because.... As stated in the article, "the Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity." Sovereign tribal nations have rough interagency cooperation with all the agencies you named plus especially with the FBI.
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.", ">\n\nTexas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert.\nThere's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign.", ">\n\nWell, to be fair, it is a Camo alert. It’s difficult to see.", ">\n\nYeah, but not as difficult as the stealth alerts. Man, those ones are tough to spot...", ">\n\nIt's the Cena alerts that really get you.", ">\n\nWhat conditions make it necessary to distinguish these from the general category of missing persons?", ">\n\nIt’s worth mentioning that indigenous women face an incredibly high level of violence, and face unique challenges to getting judging. Chief among these are public law 280. This video offers a good explanation.", ">\n\nCool! Hopefully it will prove helpful!" ]
> It sounds like you know exactly nothing about Indian nations and their relationships with neighboring local state and federal agencies, but are still happy to point accusatory questions at this new missing persons system, this legislative bill, and all parties involved in this process.
[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.", ">\n\nTexas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert.\nThere's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign.", ">\n\nWell, to be fair, it is a Camo alert. It’s difficult to see.", ">\n\nYeah, but not as difficult as the stealth alerts. Man, those ones are tough to spot...", ">\n\nIt's the Cena alerts that really get you.", ">\n\nWhat conditions make it necessary to distinguish these from the general category of missing persons?", ">\n\nIt’s worth mentioning that indigenous women face an incredibly high level of violence, and face unique challenges to getting judging. Chief among these are public law 280. This video offers a good explanation.", ">\n\nCool! Hopefully it will prove helpful!", ">\n\nBecause.... As stated in the article, \"the Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity.\" Sovereign tribal nations have rough interagency cooperation with all the agencies you named plus especially with the FBI." ]
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[ "Can't we just issue a missing person alert? Makes no sense slicing and dicing into races/issues/other things that don't matter when A PERSON IS MISSING. Isn't that what's important?", ">\n\nIf you read the article, it says...\n\n\"The Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity. Part of the bill required the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI) to operate a missing Indigenous person alert program.\"\n\nOh, and the related headlines below the article demonstrate why this is extremely necessary...\n\n\nFamily of murdered Indigenous woman believes her death could have been prevented\n\n\nNational response for Petito was appropriate, but should apply to Indigenous people too, Colorado advocates say\n\n\n'We’re going to follow everything': Alamosa County mother remains vigilant in search for her daughter missing since 2019\n\n\nIndigenous communities investing in keeping their languages alive\n\n\nReport: More than 700 Indigenous people reported missing in Wyoming over past decade\n\n\nIndigenous, Native American tribes are pushing for voting rights", ">\n\nThe fact that they are failing to put forth every effort to find each missing person, regardless of demographic should be the story, here.\nInstead we're supposed to feel good because they're correcting the issue, but only for indigenous people.", ">\n\nWe ARE correcting the issue. For years, Native women have gone missing and nobody gave a shit. \nThat was one of the main criticisms I heard online about the Gabbi Petito case - like yeah, we should be solving missing person cases, but where was this level of attention and outrage over the thousands of black and indigenous women who have gone missing in the US and Canada over the past few decades?", ">\n\nCorrecting the issue one race at a time, then.", ">\n\nThe issue is PL-280. Authorities can’t even investigate indigenous women’s disappearances at all unless they know the race of the perpetrator who killed her. This is because indigenous on indigenous crimes must be investigated by tribal police whereas non-tribal member on indigenous crimes are investigated by either the FBI or state police. Problem is, with disappearing women, you often won’t know who the perpetrator is without an investigation. It’s a horrible situation where indigenous women simply don’t get looked for by investigators. It’s fundamentally not the same as for any other race. You should really do a lick of research before forming opinions like these in the future. this video is a good start. I’ve timestamped to the part that explains PL-280.", ">\n\nTexas already has a host of alerts in addition to the well known AMBER Alert.\nThere's AMBER, Silver, Blue, Endangered Missing Person, Clear and Camo. I don't think a Camo alert has been issued yet. So, seeing Colorado try out MIPA seems like a good sign.", ">\n\nWell, to be fair, it is a Camo alert. It’s difficult to see.", ">\n\nYeah, but not as difficult as the stealth alerts. Man, those ones are tough to spot...", ">\n\nIt's the Cena alerts that really get you.", ">\n\nWhat conditions make it necessary to distinguish these from the general category of missing persons?", ">\n\nIt’s worth mentioning that indigenous women face an incredibly high level of violence, and face unique challenges to getting judging. Chief among these are public law 280. This video offers a good explanation.", ">\n\nCool! Hopefully it will prove helpful!", ">\n\nBecause.... As stated in the article, \"the Senate Bill, signed into law by Colorado Gov. Jared Polis on July 1, 2022, acknowledged the unique challenges that stem from these cases, which includes poor and inconsistent reporting, lack of interagency cooperation, and misclassification of racial identity.\" Sovereign tribal nations have rough interagency cooperation with all the agencies you named plus especially with the FBI.", ">\n\nIt sounds like you know exactly nothing about Indian nations and their relationships with neighboring local state and federal agencies, but are still happy to point accusatory questions at this new missing persons system, this legislative bill, and all parties involved in this process." ]
Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.
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> they raised their prices recently so I’m with ya
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare." ]
> Did you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya" ]
> You can buy the sauce at grocery stores.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer." ]
> I mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich. Chain has the booming business, so good for it (ha).
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.", ">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores." ]
> i love the consistency of it. most others are very inconsistent. the only other one off the top of my head is mcdonald’s and that’s just the fries. i also like it bc don’t have it very often. i do think it’s a tad overhyped tho.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.", ">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores.", ">\n\nI mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.\nChain has the booming business, so good for it (ha)." ]
> Chik-Fil-A is over-hyped and overpriced.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.", ">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores.", ">\n\nI mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.\nChain has the booming business, so good for it (ha).", ">\n\ni love the consistency of it. most others are very inconsistent. the only other one off the top of my head is mcdonald’s and that’s just the fries. i also like it bc don’t have it very often. i do think it’s a tad overhyped tho." ]
> Their Sunday chicken is heavenly.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.", ">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores.", ">\n\nI mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.\nChain has the booming business, so good for it (ha).", ">\n\ni love the consistency of it. most others are very inconsistent. the only other one off the top of my head is mcdonald’s and that’s just the fries. i also like it bc don’t have it very often. i do think it’s a tad overhyped tho.", ">\n\nChik-Fil-A is over-hyped and overpriced." ]
> Popeyes is superior. KFC is second.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.", ">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores.", ">\n\nI mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.\nChain has the booming business, so good for it (ha).", ">\n\ni love the consistency of it. most others are very inconsistent. the only other one off the top of my head is mcdonald’s and that’s just the fries. i also like it bc don’t have it very often. i do think it’s a tad overhyped tho.", ">\n\nChik-Fil-A is over-hyped and overpriced.", ">\n\nTheir Sunday chicken is heavenly." ]
> Popeyes is very good, yeah. KFC is inconsistent, at least where I live, and their chicken can either be very dry or very juicy, or sometimes it might taste old. The service at Popeyes is another issue all together. This might be an issue with the location I go to rather than how the procedure is at the chain itself, but they handle one customer at a time in the drive through. Basically, they take one order, serve that person's order, and then move on to the next car, rather than getting the next order and preparing it in advance. Anyway, rant over.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.", ">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores.", ">\n\nI mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.\nChain has the booming business, so good for it (ha).", ">\n\ni love the consistency of it. most others are very inconsistent. the only other one off the top of my head is mcdonald’s and that’s just the fries. i also like it bc don’t have it very often. i do think it’s a tad overhyped tho.", ">\n\nChik-Fil-A is over-hyped and overpriced.", ">\n\nTheir Sunday chicken is heavenly.", ">\n\nPopeyes is superior. KFC is second." ]
> Disagree. Chick Fil A sucks.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.", ">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores.", ">\n\nI mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.\nChain has the booming business, so good for it (ha).", ">\n\ni love the consistency of it. most others are very inconsistent. the only other one off the top of my head is mcdonald’s and that’s just the fries. i also like it bc don’t have it very often. i do think it’s a tad overhyped tho.", ">\n\nChik-Fil-A is over-hyped and overpriced.", ">\n\nTheir Sunday chicken is heavenly.", ">\n\nPopeyes is superior. KFC is second.", ">\n\nPopeyes is very good, yeah. KFC is inconsistent, at least where I live, and their chicken can either be very dry or very juicy, or sometimes it might taste old.\nThe service at Popeyes is another issue all together. This might be an issue with the location I go to rather than how the procedure is at the chain itself, but they handle one customer at a time in the drive through. Basically, they take one order, serve that person's order, and then move on to the next car, rather than getting the next order and preparing it in advance. \nAnyway, rant over." ]
> Chick is gross. Same with In N out. I'd take Wendy's over them any day.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.", ">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores.", ">\n\nI mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.\nChain has the booming business, so good for it (ha).", ">\n\ni love the consistency of it. most others are very inconsistent. the only other one off the top of my head is mcdonald’s and that’s just the fries. i also like it bc don’t have it very often. i do think it’s a tad overhyped tho.", ">\n\nChik-Fil-A is over-hyped and overpriced.", ">\n\nTheir Sunday chicken is heavenly.", ">\n\nPopeyes is superior. KFC is second.", ">\n\nPopeyes is very good, yeah. KFC is inconsistent, at least where I live, and their chicken can either be very dry or very juicy, or sometimes it might taste old.\nThe service at Popeyes is another issue all together. This might be an issue with the location I go to rather than how the procedure is at the chain itself, but they handle one customer at a time in the drive through. Basically, they take one order, serve that person's order, and then move on to the next car, rather than getting the next order and preparing it in advance. \nAnyway, rant over.", ">\n\nDisagree. Chick Fil A sucks." ]
> In N Out is a similar issue. Alright, but overhyped for what it is. I too would take Wendy's over either. Funny enough, I think Wendy's chicken sandwiches are probably on par with Chick Fil A's, except I know what I'm getting beforehand and I don't have to wait in a ridiculous line.
[ "Chick-fil-A is consistent. And with fast food, consistency is rare.", ">\n\nthey raised their prices recently so I’m with ya", ">\n\nDid you put the Chick-fil-A sauce on the sandwich? Because I was a nay sayer too until someone told me to do that. The sauce is a game changer.", ">\n\nYou can buy the sauce at grocery stores.", ">\n\nI mean the Deluxe sandwich sucks. But even the normal chicken sandwich is just a chicken sandwich.\nChain has the booming business, so good for it (ha).", ">\n\ni love the consistency of it. most others are very inconsistent. the only other one off the top of my head is mcdonald’s and that’s just the fries. i also like it bc don’t have it very often. i do think it’s a tad overhyped tho.", ">\n\nChik-Fil-A is over-hyped and overpriced.", ">\n\nTheir Sunday chicken is heavenly.", ">\n\nPopeyes is superior. KFC is second.", ">\n\nPopeyes is very good, yeah. KFC is inconsistent, at least where I live, and their chicken can either be very dry or very juicy, or sometimes it might taste old.\nThe service at Popeyes is another issue all together. This might be an issue with the location I go to rather than how the procedure is at the chain itself, but they handle one customer at a time in the drive through. Basically, they take one order, serve that person's order, and then move on to the next car, rather than getting the next order and preparing it in advance. \nAnyway, rant over.", ">\n\nDisagree. Chick Fil A sucks.", ">\n\nChick is gross. Same with In N out. I'd take Wendy's over them any day." ]