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[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards" ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards" ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?" ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?" ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too.", ">\n\n\nfreedom-restricting order\n\nWhat freedoms are being restricted? \n​\n\ncompulsion of citizens\n\nIs it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the \"oppressive government over-reach\" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too.", ">\n\n\nfreedom-restricting order\n\nWhat freedoms are being restricted? \n​\n\ncompulsion of citizens\n\nIs it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the \"oppressive government over-reach\" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote.", ">\n\nWhy not make going to vote a civil duty as well? That'd also fix the issue you describe" ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too.", ">\n\n\nfreedom-restricting order\n\nWhat freedoms are being restricted? \n​\n\ncompulsion of citizens\n\nIs it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the \"oppressive government over-reach\" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote.", ">\n\nWhy not make going to vote a civil duty as well? That'd also fix the issue you describe", ">\n\nGreetings, fellow Finch. This isn't the topic of the CMV, but regardless, I don't think compelling people to vote is a very good idea. It would breed resentment and that's not the mindset one wants voters to have. Turnout in the UK is pretty good anyway." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too.", ">\n\n\nfreedom-restricting order\n\nWhat freedoms are being restricted? \n​\n\ncompulsion of citizens\n\nIs it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the \"oppressive government over-reach\" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote.", ">\n\nWhy not make going to vote a civil duty as well? That'd also fix the issue you describe", ">\n\nGreetings, fellow Finch. This isn't the topic of the CMV, but regardless, I don't think compelling people to vote is a very good idea. It would breed resentment and that's not the mindset one wants voters to have. Turnout in the UK is pretty good anyway.", ">\n\nYour topic is about people not wanting to go vote because of the civil duty of being a juror being attached to this. Your proposed solution is to decouple the 2. I'm simply presenting an alternative solution to show there's no need to decouple these 2.\nThat being said, I didn't say that you should make it a civil duty to vote. I said make it a civil duty to go vote. There's a fundamental difference. Here in Belgium we have a civil duty to go vote, you do not have to actually vote. You just have to show up at the polling station, check in and that's it. Whether you vote or not is entirely up to you. \nNo resentment is present in Belgian voters stemming from this civil duty to go vote as far as I'm aware, we have turnouts of around 90%." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too.", ">\n\n\nfreedom-restricting order\n\nWhat freedoms are being restricted? \n​\n\ncompulsion of citizens\n\nIs it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the \"oppressive government over-reach\" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote.", ">\n\nWhy not make going to vote a civil duty as well? That'd also fix the issue you describe", ">\n\nGreetings, fellow Finch. This isn't the topic of the CMV, but regardless, I don't think compelling people to vote is a very good idea. It would breed resentment and that's not the mindset one wants voters to have. Turnout in the UK is pretty good anyway.", ">\n\nYour topic is about people not wanting to go vote because of the civil duty of being a juror being attached to this. Your proposed solution is to decouple the 2. I'm simply presenting an alternative solution to show there's no need to decouple these 2.\nThat being said, I didn't say that you should make it a civil duty to vote. I said make it a civil duty to go vote. There's a fundamental difference. Here in Belgium we have a civil duty to go vote, you do not have to actually vote. You just have to show up at the polling station, check in and that's it. Whether you vote or not is entirely up to you. \nNo resentment is present in Belgian voters stemming from this civil duty to go vote as far as I'm aware, we have turnouts of around 90%.", ">\n\nThe UK has never really had much of a conception of voting without fear of consequence, you can actually be convicted of a crime and fined for failure to cooperate with registration officers for example." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too.", ">\n\n\nfreedom-restricting order\n\nWhat freedoms are being restricted? \n​\n\ncompulsion of citizens\n\nIs it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the \"oppressive government over-reach\" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote.", ">\n\nWhy not make going to vote a civil duty as well? That'd also fix the issue you describe", ">\n\nGreetings, fellow Finch. This isn't the topic of the CMV, but regardless, I don't think compelling people to vote is a very good idea. It would breed resentment and that's not the mindset one wants voters to have. Turnout in the UK is pretty good anyway.", ">\n\nYour topic is about people not wanting to go vote because of the civil duty of being a juror being attached to this. Your proposed solution is to decouple the 2. I'm simply presenting an alternative solution to show there's no need to decouple these 2.\nThat being said, I didn't say that you should make it a civil duty to vote. I said make it a civil duty to go vote. There's a fundamental difference. Here in Belgium we have a civil duty to go vote, you do not have to actually vote. You just have to show up at the polling station, check in and that's it. Whether you vote or not is entirely up to you. \nNo resentment is present in Belgian voters stemming from this civil duty to go vote as far as I'm aware, we have turnouts of around 90%.", ">\n\nThe UK has never really had much of a conception of voting without fear of consequence, you can actually be convicted of a crime and fined for failure to cooperate with registration officers for example.", ">\n\n\nthen jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nIsn't it against the law to not register to vote? \nIn the US, you can get called to jury duty because you simply exist as someone over the age of 18." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too.", ">\n\n\nfreedom-restricting order\n\nWhat freedoms are being restricted? \n​\n\ncompulsion of citizens\n\nIs it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the \"oppressive government over-reach\" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote.", ">\n\nWhy not make going to vote a civil duty as well? That'd also fix the issue you describe", ">\n\nGreetings, fellow Finch. This isn't the topic of the CMV, but regardless, I don't think compelling people to vote is a very good idea. It would breed resentment and that's not the mindset one wants voters to have. Turnout in the UK is pretty good anyway.", ">\n\nYour topic is about people not wanting to go vote because of the civil duty of being a juror being attached to this. Your proposed solution is to decouple the 2. I'm simply presenting an alternative solution to show there's no need to decouple these 2.\nThat being said, I didn't say that you should make it a civil duty to vote. I said make it a civil duty to go vote. There's a fundamental difference. Here in Belgium we have a civil duty to go vote, you do not have to actually vote. You just have to show up at the polling station, check in and that's it. Whether you vote or not is entirely up to you. \nNo resentment is present in Belgian voters stemming from this civil duty to go vote as far as I'm aware, we have turnouts of around 90%.", ">\n\nThe UK has never really had much of a conception of voting without fear of consequence, you can actually be convicted of a crime and fined for failure to cooperate with registration officers for example.", ">\n\n\nthen jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nIsn't it against the law to not register to vote? \nIn the US, you can get called to jury duty because you simply exist as someone over the age of 18.", ">\n\nActually, in the US, jurors are selected from both voter registration and current ID/driver licenses, but failing to do either is not illegal." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too.", ">\n\n\nfreedom-restricting order\n\nWhat freedoms are being restricted? \n​\n\ncompulsion of citizens\n\nIs it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the \"oppressive government over-reach\" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote.", ">\n\nWhy not make going to vote a civil duty as well? That'd also fix the issue you describe", ">\n\nGreetings, fellow Finch. This isn't the topic of the CMV, but regardless, I don't think compelling people to vote is a very good idea. It would breed resentment and that's not the mindset one wants voters to have. Turnout in the UK is pretty good anyway.", ">\n\nYour topic is about people not wanting to go vote because of the civil duty of being a juror being attached to this. Your proposed solution is to decouple the 2. I'm simply presenting an alternative solution to show there's no need to decouple these 2.\nThat being said, I didn't say that you should make it a civil duty to vote. I said make it a civil duty to go vote. There's a fundamental difference. Here in Belgium we have a civil duty to go vote, you do not have to actually vote. You just have to show up at the polling station, check in and that's it. Whether you vote or not is entirely up to you. \nNo resentment is present in Belgian voters stemming from this civil duty to go vote as far as I'm aware, we have turnouts of around 90%.", ">\n\nThe UK has never really had much of a conception of voting without fear of consequence, you can actually be convicted of a crime and fined for failure to cooperate with registration officers for example.", ">\n\n\nthen jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nIsn't it against the law to not register to vote? \nIn the US, you can get called to jury duty because you simply exist as someone over the age of 18.", ">\n\nActually, in the US, jurors are selected from both voter registration and current ID/driver licenses, but failing to do either is not illegal.", ">\n\nIsn't having to register to vote a consequence to voting itself? I can't vote if I don't put myself on a government list.\nWhat are the alternatives? You make a different list of all the same people but call it the \"jury register?\" Making jury registration opt-in sort of defeats the purpose of a jury of peers." ]

[ "/u/Finchyy (OP) has awarded 1 delta(s) in this post.\nAll comments that earned deltas (from OP or other users) are listed here, in /r/DeltaLog.\nPlease note that a change of view doesn't necessarily mean a reversal, or that the conversation has ended.\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\n\nBecause one must be on the electoral register to vote, and because jury service is a compulsory, freedom-restricting order from the government that draws its names from the electoral register, then jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nYou don't understand the UK electoral register. In the UK it is required to register to vote. You don't need to cast a vote but you are required to register. It is a criminal offense to refuse.\nSo either way jury duty isn't an additional restriction on someone voting or not.", ">\n\n!delta I didn't know that you were required to be on the electoral register. If this is the case, then you do not have to consider risking being called for jury service when you make the decision to vote.", ">\n\nConfirmed: 1 delta awarded to /u/Phage0070 (47∆).\n^Delta System Explained ^| ^Deltaboards", ">\n\nThe civic duty of Jury Duty is literally how we preserve other people's freedoms. What suggestion do you have as an alternative for picking Jurors?", ">\n\nBench trials. Some countries don't have juries, just judges.\nThough I've heard:\nYou want a jury if you're guilty and you want a judge if you're innocent.", ">\n\nIn the UK pretty much all minor crimes got the magistrate court, a panel of 3 judges to determine guilt.\nOnly for serious crimes go to crown court with a jury.", ">\n\nSo in order to select a jury you need a representative sample of society near enough to the court that it isn't too inconvenient for them to do jury duty.\nI cannot think of any other database other than the electoral register that is near universal and contains a relatively up to date idea of the person's location.\nDrivers licenses last for about 10 years so the address can easily be wrong, passports don't store current address etc.\nMoreover jury duty is exactly that, a duty you take on as part of society, and if 10 days+ of jury duty is too much, you can get assistance or an exemption from jury duty from the courts.", ">\n\nSo you want to free people from having to make the decision to vote and risk being selected for jury duty or not vote in order to save themselves from the possibility of jury duty? How will juries be selected under your system?", ">\n\nYes, I would like people to be able to vote without the risk of being selected for jury duty. If someone doesn't want to be selected for jury duty (for any reason - conscientious objection, social anxiety, or simply because they just don't want to), then I don't believe that should rob them of the right to vote.\nI cannot think of an alternative way to select juries, although most citizens are registered to an address somewhere so there's certainly another way. National Insurance numbers are tied to individuals. Passports, too.", ">\n\n\nfreedom-restricting order\n\nWhat freedoms are being restricted? \n​\n\ncompulsion of citizens\n\nIs it compulsion if you can get out of it by saying you're busy at work or have a holiday booked? You can get out of jury service so easily that it's ridiculous to paint this issue with the \"oppressive government over-reach\" brush or as an issue that has any impact at all on the ability of British people to vote.", ">\n\nWhy not make going to vote a civil duty as well? That'd also fix the issue you describe", ">\n\nGreetings, fellow Finch. This isn't the topic of the CMV, but regardless, I don't think compelling people to vote is a very good idea. It would breed resentment and that's not the mindset one wants voters to have. Turnout in the UK is pretty good anyway.", ">\n\nYour topic is about people not wanting to go vote because of the civil duty of being a juror being attached to this. Your proposed solution is to decouple the 2. I'm simply presenting an alternative solution to show there's no need to decouple these 2.\nThat being said, I didn't say that you should make it a civil duty to vote. I said make it a civil duty to go vote. There's a fundamental difference. Here in Belgium we have a civil duty to go vote, you do not have to actually vote. You just have to show up at the polling station, check in and that's it. Whether you vote or not is entirely up to you. \nNo resentment is present in Belgian voters stemming from this civil duty to go vote as far as I'm aware, we have turnouts of around 90%.", ">\n\nThe UK has never really had much of a conception of voting without fear of consequence, you can actually be convicted of a crime and fined for failure to cooperate with registration officers for example.", ">\n\n\nthen jury service must cease drawing its names from the electoral register in order to give people the right to vote without any consequence.\n\nIsn't it against the law to not register to vote? \nIn the US, you can get called to jury duty because you simply exist as someone over the age of 18.", ">\n\nActually, in the US, jurors are selected from both voter registration and current ID/driver licenses, but failing to do either is not illegal.", ">\n\nIsn't having to register to vote a consequence to voting itself? I can't vote if I don't put myself on a government list.\nWhat are the alternatives? You make a different list of all the same people but call it the \"jury register?\" Making jury registration opt-in sort of defeats the purpose of a jury of peers.", ">\n\nWhile I agree that jury service is generally a pain, perhaps it could be viewed as a positive. If we consider judicial systems without juries, it seems like a privilege to be able to participate in the judicial system and impact the execution of the law. It is mandatory and has quite negative connotations but perhaps that's just our modern perception taking it for granted? \nMy second point would be that registering to vote is registering to be engaged in the running of our country and in the UK that would include juries." ]

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[ "Of only you could have a laser beaming shining from it." ]

[ "Of only you could have a laser beaming shining from it.", ">\n\nYou should add some fox keycaps lol" ]

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[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, I guess it's cool if you enjoy spending absurd amounts of money on gas. But then you know what sometimes it's not cheap to be cool.🤷‍♂️" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, I guess it's cool if you enjoy spending absurd amounts of money on gas. But then you know what sometimes it's not cheap to be cool.🤷‍♂️", ">\n\nExactly. But people sometimes forget about the gas part all they’re really thinking about is being able to travel with a bunch of people, or being able to haul a bunch of toys and stuff. And basically, big truck equals carrying more things. They forget how much gas that’s going to take and how much that’s going to cost." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, I guess it's cool if you enjoy spending absurd amounts of money on gas. But then you know what sometimes it's not cheap to be cool.🤷‍♂️", ">\n\nExactly. But people sometimes forget about the gas part all they’re really thinking about is being able to travel with a bunch of people, or being able to haul a bunch of toys and stuff. And basically, big truck equals carrying more things. They forget how much gas that’s going to take and how much that’s going to cost.", ">\n\nYeah I used to have a big truck. I remember the first time I filled it up. It broke my heart. It probably cost about a third of my wages. Just in gas.🤷‍♂️" ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, I guess it's cool if you enjoy spending absurd amounts of money on gas. But then you know what sometimes it's not cheap to be cool.🤷‍♂️", ">\n\nExactly. But people sometimes forget about the gas part all they’re really thinking about is being able to travel with a bunch of people, or being able to haul a bunch of toys and stuff. And basically, big truck equals carrying more things. They forget how much gas that’s going to take and how much that’s going to cost.", ">\n\nYeah I used to have a big truck. I remember the first time I filled it up. It broke my heart. It probably cost about a third of my wages. Just in gas.🤷‍♂️", ">\n\nDepends on the SUV. For example, the Ford Bronco. The old Bronco is very cool. The new Bronco is pretty cool. The Bronco 2 is alright. The Bronco Sport very much is not." ]

[ "This is a friendly reminder to read our rules.\nRemember, /r/Showerthoughts is for showerthoughts, not \"thoughts had in the shower!\"\n(For an explanation of what a \"showerthought\" is, please read this page.)\nRule-breaking posts may result in bans.", ">\n\nI mean, I guess it's cool if you enjoy spending absurd amounts of money on gas. But then you know what sometimes it's not cheap to be cool.🤷‍♂️", ">\n\nExactly. But people sometimes forget about the gas part all they’re really thinking about is being able to travel with a bunch of people, or being able to haul a bunch of toys and stuff. And basically, big truck equals carrying more things. They forget how much gas that’s going to take and how much that’s going to cost.", ">\n\nYeah I used to have a big truck. I remember the first time I filled it up. It broke my heart. It probably cost about a third of my wages. Just in gas.🤷‍♂️", ">\n\nDepends on the SUV. For example, the Ford Bronco. The old Bronco is very cool. The new Bronco is pretty cool. The Bronco 2 is alright. The Bronco Sport very much is not.", ">\n\nNo matter which Bronco it is, people would probably still prefer it over a minivan. Minivans are such a “mom” thing. Ironically enough, moms now have SUV’s to take their kids to soccer practice." ]

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[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”", ">\n\nWe'll all be there one day .... Old" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”", ">\n\nWe'll all be there one day .... Old", ">\n\nThis is a legit opinion. I actually agree. There is something deeply heartbreaking about seeing an old man brought to tears by what the World has inflicted upon them. Perhaps it's the fact that it's so rare and non stereotypical that makes it moving. I think generally for myself though it's the fact that they usually cry about something very relatable." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”", ">\n\nWe'll all be there one day .... Old", ">\n\nThis is a legit opinion. I actually agree. There is something deeply heartbreaking about seeing an old man brought to tears by what the World has inflicted upon them. Perhaps it's the fact that it's so rare and non stereotypical that makes it moving. I think generally for myself though it's the fact that they usually cry about something very relatable.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion?? Totally agree" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”", ">\n\nWe'll all be there one day .... Old", ">\n\nThis is a legit opinion. I actually agree. There is something deeply heartbreaking about seeing an old man brought to tears by what the World has inflicted upon them. Perhaps it's the fact that it's so rare and non stereotypical that makes it moving. I think generally for myself though it's the fact that they usually cry about something very relatable.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion?? Totally agree", ">\n\nUncanny valley. We see men cry and our hackles stand up and we get really edgy. It's designed to put us all on high alert. Totally natural response and yes all the comments lol, it's a fucked up feeling huh?" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”", ">\n\nWe'll all be there one day .... Old", ">\n\nThis is a legit opinion. I actually agree. There is something deeply heartbreaking about seeing an old man brought to tears by what the World has inflicted upon them. Perhaps it's the fact that it's so rare and non stereotypical that makes it moving. I think generally for myself though it's the fact that they usually cry about something very relatable.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion?? Totally agree", ">\n\nUncanny valley. We see men cry and our hackles stand up and we get really edgy. It's designed to put us all on high alert. Totally natural response and yes all the comments lol, it's a fucked up feeling huh?", ">\n\nBeing a CNA for years and years watching men die and cry for their mothers or spouses or kids, (in that order) terrible deathbed confessions, screaming at god. You start to get sociopathic tendencies, gotta cry tho lots and lots of crying to vent then you can flip the switch and go back in XD." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”", ">\n\nWe'll all be there one day .... Old", ">\n\nThis is a legit opinion. I actually agree. There is something deeply heartbreaking about seeing an old man brought to tears by what the World has inflicted upon them. Perhaps it's the fact that it's so rare and non stereotypical that makes it moving. I think generally for myself though it's the fact that they usually cry about something very relatable.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion?? Totally agree", ">\n\nUncanny valley. We see men cry and our hackles stand up and we get really edgy. It's designed to put us all on high alert. Totally natural response and yes all the comments lol, it's a fucked up feeling huh?", ">\n\nBeing a CNA for years and years watching men die and cry for their mothers or spouses or kids, (in that order) terrible deathbed confessions, screaming at god. You start to get sociopathic tendencies, gotta cry tho lots and lots of crying to vent then you can flip the switch and go back in XD.", ">\n\nJfc a guy crying doesn't make him \"weepy\" or mean he has dementia. Men are human too." ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”", ">\n\nWe'll all be there one day .... Old", ">\n\nThis is a legit opinion. I actually agree. There is something deeply heartbreaking about seeing an old man brought to tears by what the World has inflicted upon them. Perhaps it's the fact that it's so rare and non stereotypical that makes it moving. I think generally for myself though it's the fact that they usually cry about something very relatable.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion?? Totally agree", ">\n\nUncanny valley. We see men cry and our hackles stand up and we get really edgy. It's designed to put us all on high alert. Totally natural response and yes all the comments lol, it's a fucked up feeling huh?", ">\n\nBeing a CNA for years and years watching men die and cry for their mothers or spouses or kids, (in that order) terrible deathbed confessions, screaming at god. You start to get sociopathic tendencies, gotta cry tho lots and lots of crying to vent then you can flip the switch and go back in XD.", ">\n\nJfc a guy crying doesn't make him \"weepy\" or mean he has dementia. Men are human too.", ">\n\nTeenager thinks they are many genders = true\nOld man cries = definitely mental concerns" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”", ">\n\nWe'll all be there one day .... Old", ">\n\nThis is a legit opinion. I actually agree. There is something deeply heartbreaking about seeing an old man brought to tears by what the World has inflicted upon them. Perhaps it's the fact that it's so rare and non stereotypical that makes it moving. I think generally for myself though it's the fact that they usually cry about something very relatable.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion?? Totally agree", ">\n\nUncanny valley. We see men cry and our hackles stand up and we get really edgy. It's designed to put us all on high alert. Totally natural response and yes all the comments lol, it's a fucked up feeling huh?", ">\n\nBeing a CNA for years and years watching men die and cry for their mothers or spouses or kids, (in that order) terrible deathbed confessions, screaming at god. You start to get sociopathic tendencies, gotta cry tho lots and lots of crying to vent then you can flip the switch and go back in XD.", ">\n\nJfc a guy crying doesn't make him \"weepy\" or mean he has dementia. Men are human too.", ">\n\nTeenager thinks they are many genders = true\nOld man cries = definitely mental concerns", ">\n\nNot really men and women cry who cares" ]

[ "I work in a cell phone place and most of my clients are old\nThis 85 year old came in crying one time trying to pay his bill. I asked what was wrong and with the most genuine sad eyes I’ve ever seen he said \n“I miss my wife a lot today.”", ">\n\nThat is just heartbreaking.", ">\n\nManaged to hold it together at my dad's funeral, until I saw my grandpa crying. Then I just lost it. Not an easy thing to see.", ">\n\nIt's one thing eventually losing your parents. Everyone does.\nBut to lose a son? Thats on a whole other level of pain. I don't blame your grandfather for being distraught at that. I would of lost it too in your shoes too.", ">\n\nLosing a child, even an adult child, has to be one of the worst things for someone to deal with.", ">\n\nMany years ago my partner and I were on holiday in the USA and took the ferry from SF to Sausalito. A well-dressed older man sat opposite us overheard our British accents and asked where we were from. We had 20 minutes of the journey to go so we got chatting with him and he told us how he'd emigrated to Pennsylvania and then retired to Sausalito with his wife. She'd died a few years ago. He said, 'They say time heals all wounds, but I can't say it's ever got any easier for me.' There were tears in his eyes. I was trying my best not to start bawling my eyes out. My partner was barely holding it together. \nI think about him a lot.", ">\n\nI'm 61, and in my experience with older folks who have lost spouses it seems to me that women who have lost their husbands seem to do better than men who have lost their wives. I don't mean functionally. I mean emotionally. I think a lot of that is because women tend to maintain friendships with other women as they age where men let things lapse. So men rely more on their wives as they get older.\nI'm not elderly (yet) but I'd be lost without my wife. I think my wife would probably be OK without me though.", ">\n\nWatching my dad cry at my grandmas funeral from under his sunglasses was the worst thing I’ve ever seen and felt.", ">\n\nIsn't this quite a popular opinion?", ">\n\nI guess so. Glad to see people agree atleast.", ">\n\nI’d hate to find the community where this is actually unpopular…", ">\n\nThis is not unpopular… who wouldn’t find it extremely saddening to see an elderly individual upset like that?", ">\n\nThe funny thing about this sub is that the supposed unpopular opinion is actually a popular opinion.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion", ">\n\nMy aunt died of an overdose in May. Watching my grandfather break down was one of the worst and most helpless feelings in my life", ">\n\nWatching my grandpa cry, asking him why, and him covering his face and saying ‘because (dad’s name) really broke my heart. We don’t get to see him often since he lives in a different country so he also started crying when we were about to go to the airport to leave because he wanted us to stay.", ">\n\nIt's any teens for me. \nSomething about that age. Young enough to not be able to solve problems, but too old to be coddled.", ">\n\nI agree the only time I like to see old people cry is when they are telling a story and they laugh so hard they start crying. Taking their glasses off to wipe their eye.", ">\n\nThat is really true\nIn highschool, one of my teachers (female) died because of a car crash. She was in a relationship with one of my other teachers (male).\nThe school hosted a mourning feast where he was present and he was in such a bad shape that my heart really broke that day.", ">\n\nNot unpopular. Try r/popularopinion", ">\n\n👍", ">\n\nWhat’s unpopular about this?", ">\n\nActually, i think there ain't a sadder tale than seeing a blind man cry, you really feel it from the soul.", ">\n\nIt is, especially when they understand their time is flowing and they have to arrange things before leaving the earth. Is awful 😞", ">\n\nI so agree.. when I saw my dad cry (literally for the first time I ever did) was when his sister passed. It was the most heart wrenching thing to witness. I always praised him on his strength, because that’s how Dad’s are. But seeing him in that moment, just broke my heart", ">\n\nOnce I made an old man cry by fucking him too hard, felt guilty later.", ">\n\nIt's true I was the old man", ">\n\nWhat about older women? It is equally sad for them too.", ">\n\nYes it is sad when a older woman crys but an older man hurts more as men are told to not show emotion and weakness of emotion.\nWhich I disagree with as a male,\nP.s I've only seen my dad cry once and that's when my mother left him because he stood up for himself against her bullshite", ">\n\nWomen aren't encourage to cry either, they are called weak for it. I understand why you sympathise with men more because you do not have a good Women figure in your life.", ">\n\nAnyone crying should evoke that response.", ">\n\nNah depends on how much the demographic cries. If you see a baby crying you're not going to think 'oh wow something must have really gone wrong in their life'.", ">\n\nbabies are an exception because they do nothing but cry. he's talking about the same response to come when a young woman or man cries, old woman cries, etc.", ">\n\nBabies are just an example but I think the more general point is that men have traditionally been raised to suppress the urge to cry and so if you see an older man crying then you can be fairly sure that something profoundly sad has happened. Times are certainly changing (for the better) but old men are still probably the demographic that you'll see crying the least often", ">\n\nLike The Rolling Stones begged “Don’t Make A Grown Man Cry”", ">\n\nWe'll all be there one day .... Old", ">\n\nThis is a legit opinion. I actually agree. There is something deeply heartbreaking about seeing an old man brought to tears by what the World has inflicted upon them. Perhaps it's the fact that it's so rare and non stereotypical that makes it moving. I think generally for myself though it's the fact that they usually cry about something very relatable.", ">\n\nHow is this an unpopular opinion?? Totally agree", ">\n\nUncanny valley. We see men cry and our hackles stand up and we get really edgy. It's designed to put us all on high alert. Totally natural response and yes all the comments lol, it's a fucked up feeling huh?", ">\n\nBeing a CNA for years and years watching men die and cry for their mothers or spouses or kids, (in that order) terrible deathbed confessions, screaming at god. You start to get sociopathic tendencies, gotta cry tho lots and lots of crying to vent then you can flip the switch and go back in XD.", ">\n\nJfc a guy crying doesn't make him \"weepy\" or mean he has dementia. Men are human too.", ">\n\nTeenager thinks they are many genders = true\nOld man cries = definitely mental concerns", ">\n\nNot really men and women cry who cares", ">\n\nWhat if the reason is their team lost the big game? Or they got convicted of molestation. I mean, people crying makes me sad is basically saying your not a psychopath." ]

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[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them.", ">\n\nThis is the first time in years the Republicans have had to be a coalition party. Their party is entirely made up of snakes who will devour one another at a moments notice for a crumb of power. They’re going to absolutely destroy themselves and they’re too stupid and craven to notice, stop it, or care. Super looking forward to seeing it get worse for them lol." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them.", ">\n\nThis is the first time in years the Republicans have had to be a coalition party. Their party is entirely made up of snakes who will devour one another at a moments notice for a crumb of power. They’re going to absolutely destroy themselves and they’re too stupid and craven to notice, stop it, or care. Super looking forward to seeing it get worse for them lol.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that the article manages to dodge the real elephant in the room (if you’ll excuse the pun): the reason why support for Ukraine is opposed by some in the GOP is because Russia has provided support to the GOP. \nDon’t bite the hand that feeds you, as the saying goes." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them.", ">\n\nThis is the first time in years the Republicans have had to be a coalition party. Their party is entirely made up of snakes who will devour one another at a moments notice for a crumb of power. They’re going to absolutely destroy themselves and they’re too stupid and craven to notice, stop it, or care. Super looking forward to seeing it get worse for them lol.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that the article manages to dodge the real elephant in the room (if you’ll excuse the pun): the reason why support for Ukraine is opposed by some in the GOP is because Russia has provided support to the GOP. \nDon’t bite the hand that feeds you, as the saying goes.", ">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer bunch of thugs." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them.", ">\n\nThis is the first time in years the Republicans have had to be a coalition party. Their party is entirely made up of snakes who will devour one another at a moments notice for a crumb of power. They’re going to absolutely destroy themselves and they’re too stupid and craven to notice, stop it, or care. Super looking forward to seeing it get worse for them lol.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that the article manages to dodge the real elephant in the room (if you’ll excuse the pun): the reason why support for Ukraine is opposed by some in the GOP is because Russia has provided support to the GOP. \nDon’t bite the hand that feeds you, as the saying goes.", ">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer bunch of thugs.", ">\n\nThe GOP being allowed to exist is a crisis in its own." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them.", ">\n\nThis is the first time in years the Republicans have had to be a coalition party. Their party is entirely made up of snakes who will devour one another at a moments notice for a crumb of power. They’re going to absolutely destroy themselves and they’re too stupid and craven to notice, stop it, or care. Super looking forward to seeing it get worse for them lol.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that the article manages to dodge the real elephant in the room (if you’ll excuse the pun): the reason why support for Ukraine is opposed by some in the GOP is because Russia has provided support to the GOP. \nDon’t bite the hand that feeds you, as the saying goes.", ">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer bunch of thugs.", ">\n\nThe GOP being allowed to exist is a crisis in its own.", ">\n\nIt’s just the alt right faction that believes everything Tucker says. It’s not the majority of the Party." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them.", ">\n\nThis is the first time in years the Republicans have had to be a coalition party. Their party is entirely made up of snakes who will devour one another at a moments notice for a crumb of power. They’re going to absolutely destroy themselves and they’re too stupid and craven to notice, stop it, or care. Super looking forward to seeing it get worse for them lol.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that the article manages to dodge the real elephant in the room (if you’ll excuse the pun): the reason why support for Ukraine is opposed by some in the GOP is because Russia has provided support to the GOP. \nDon’t bite the hand that feeds you, as the saying goes.", ">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer bunch of thugs.", ">\n\nThe GOP being allowed to exist is a crisis in its own.", ">\n\nIt’s just the alt right faction that believes everything Tucker says. It’s not the majority of the Party.", ">\n\nEven if so, the majority are demonstrating extremely poor judgement in remaining part of a hijacked party." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them.", ">\n\nThis is the first time in years the Republicans have had to be a coalition party. Their party is entirely made up of snakes who will devour one another at a moments notice for a crumb of power. They’re going to absolutely destroy themselves and they’re too stupid and craven to notice, stop it, or care. Super looking forward to seeing it get worse for them lol.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that the article manages to dodge the real elephant in the room (if you’ll excuse the pun): the reason why support for Ukraine is opposed by some in the GOP is because Russia has provided support to the GOP. \nDon’t bite the hand that feeds you, as the saying goes.", ">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer bunch of thugs.", ">\n\nThe GOP being allowed to exist is a crisis in its own.", ">\n\nIt’s just the alt right faction that believes everything Tucker says. It’s not the majority of the Party.", ">\n\nEven if so, the majority are demonstrating extremely poor judgement in remaining part of a hijacked party.", ">\n\nI completely agree. The GOP is broken in the House. The alt right won’t vote for bipartisan bills, and moderates haven’t forgotten that they’ve been called RINOs by the alt right for the past 6 years. I personally wish the Dems put up a moderate Republican we can all live with (like Murkowski). It’s doubtful McCarthy will get the votes he needs—if a roll call vote happened tomorrow anyway." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them.", ">\n\nThis is the first time in years the Republicans have had to be a coalition party. Their party is entirely made up of snakes who will devour one another at a moments notice for a crumb of power. They’re going to absolutely destroy themselves and they’re too stupid and craven to notice, stop it, or care. Super looking forward to seeing it get worse for them lol.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that the article manages to dodge the real elephant in the room (if you’ll excuse the pun): the reason why support for Ukraine is opposed by some in the GOP is because Russia has provided support to the GOP. \nDon’t bite the hand that feeds you, as the saying goes.", ">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer bunch of thugs.", ">\n\nThe GOP being allowed to exist is a crisis in its own.", ">\n\nIt’s just the alt right faction that believes everything Tucker says. It’s not the majority of the Party.", ">\n\nEven if so, the majority are demonstrating extremely poor judgement in remaining part of a hijacked party.", ">\n\nI completely agree. The GOP is broken in the House. The alt right won’t vote for bipartisan bills, and moderates haven’t forgotten that they’ve been called RINOs by the alt right for the past 6 years. I personally wish the Dems put up a moderate Republican we can all live with (like Murkowski). It’s doubtful McCarthy will get the votes he needs—if a roll call vote happened tomorrow anyway.", ">\n\nThey aren't really talking about it but its a bigger issue than they are letting on the alt right can't win in a general election and the moderates can't win in a primary and they both blame each other for that the civil war in the party is a much bigger issue than is currently on the surface." ]

[ "The fact is this is a third rail for the GOP much like abortion, Support for Ukraine is broadly popular across a huge spectrum of the American public and the fact that the support that the US government is providing them is producing positive effects way beyond thier cost is going to be a hard point to sway from. Not saying its not possible but it will require a large amount of misinformation to change peoples minds. In my mind how hard they push to try and stop aid for Ukraine is really going to be the measuring stick of how beholden to Russian power they really are.", ">\n\nBased on their past words and actions, they're probably gonna go all in on it. Those people have more love toward Russia than toward their own spouse. And it's not like being on the opposite side of the popular opinion has ever stop them before.", ">\n\n\nthey're probably gonna go all in on it\n\nAnd then call our allies in Europe and Asia wimps for not helping us after we abandon Ukraine to its fate and show we're no protection against Russian aggression. \nIt's like they think our dominant position in the world is due to forces of nature and not the hard work of lots of people--meaning nothing they do can fuck that up. Which leads me to a bit of wisdom I got in the military: A quick way to learn you're not invincible is to act like you're invincible.", ">\n\nThe GOP civil war. MAGA vs Establishment GOP. They are never going to agree on anything. MAGA should just rip the bandaid off and launch a 3rd party. GOP Establishment want nothing to do with them and are trying to marginalize them.", ">\n\nThis is the first time in years the Republicans have had to be a coalition party. Their party is entirely made up of snakes who will devour one another at a moments notice for a crumb of power. They’re going to absolutely destroy themselves and they’re too stupid and craven to notice, stop it, or care. Super looking forward to seeing it get worse for them lol.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that the article manages to dodge the real elephant in the room (if you’ll excuse the pun): the reason why support for Ukraine is opposed by some in the GOP is because Russia has provided support to the GOP. \nDon’t bite the hand that feeds you, as the saying goes.", ">\n\nCouldn't happen to a nicer bunch of thugs.", ">\n\nThe GOP being allowed to exist is a crisis in its own.", ">\n\nIt’s just the alt right faction that believes everything Tucker says. It’s not the majority of the Party.", ">\n\nEven if so, the majority are demonstrating extremely poor judgement in remaining part of a hijacked party.", ">\n\nI completely agree. The GOP is broken in the House. The alt right won’t vote for bipartisan bills, and moderates haven’t forgotten that they’ve been called RINOs by the alt right for the past 6 years. I personally wish the Dems put up a moderate Republican we can all live with (like Murkowski). It’s doubtful McCarthy will get the votes he needs—if a roll call vote happened tomorrow anyway.", ">\n\nThey aren't really talking about it but its a bigger issue than they are letting on the alt right can't win in a general election and the moderates can't win in a primary and they both blame each other for that the civil war in the party is a much bigger issue than is currently on the surface.", ">\n\nGood observation there Reddit stranger. 👍🏻" ]

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[ "I'm curious what was different about this storm. Buffalo is used to feet of snow but this seems to have caught everything off-guard." ]

[ "I'm curious what was different about this storm. Buffalo is used to feet of snow but this seems to have caught everything off-guard.", ">\n\nTwo days of 40+ mph winds with gusts over 70. There were times Friday and Saturday that I couldn't see my neighbor's house, conditions were so bad.\nSo, the whiteout conditions, coupled with abandoned cars blocking the roads, prevented the snowplows from keeping up with the snowfall." ]

[ "I'm curious what was different about this storm. Buffalo is used to feet of snow but this seems to have caught everything off-guard.", ">\n\nTwo days of 40+ mph winds with gusts over 70. There were times Friday and Saturday that I couldn't see my neighbor's house, conditions were so bad.\nSo, the whiteout conditions, coupled with abandoned cars blocking the roads, prevented the snowplows from keeping up with the snowfall.", ">\n\nWtf was the government supposed to do? Hurricane-like wind force, and 4+ feet of snow. It’s not like it was completely clear there either, Buffalo had gotten another huge snow storm not that long ago, and a little snow before this.\nThat snow all has to go somewhere. they can’t just magically poof it away.\nI live in the capital region and I’ve seen constant streams of maintenance vehicles heading west over the past few days. There’s literally only so much that can be done. I just don’t understand what people expected. It’s not like Buffalo sat on its hands - they’re very prepared for blizzards. This was a (formerly) once in a generation type storm, one of the worst the city has ever seen. It’s not surprising it’s taking so long to clean up. It’s made worse by a bunch of morons who decided to ignore the travel ban, then got their cars stuck, blocking roads and making it hard for plows to clean up.\nThe city is doing what it can." ]

[ "I'm curious what was different about this storm. Buffalo is used to feet of snow but this seems to have caught everything off-guard.", ">\n\nTwo days of 40+ mph winds with gusts over 70. There were times Friday and Saturday that I couldn't see my neighbor's house, conditions were so bad.\nSo, the whiteout conditions, coupled with abandoned cars blocking the roads, prevented the snowplows from keeping up with the snowfall.", ">\n\nWtf was the government supposed to do? Hurricane-like wind force, and 4+ feet of snow. It’s not like it was completely clear there either, Buffalo had gotten another huge snow storm not that long ago, and a little snow before this.\nThat snow all has to go somewhere. they can’t just magically poof it away.\nI live in the capital region and I’ve seen constant streams of maintenance vehicles heading west over the past few days. There’s literally only so much that can be done. I just don’t understand what people expected. It’s not like Buffalo sat on its hands - they’re very prepared for blizzards. This was a (formerly) once in a generation type storm, one of the worst the city has ever seen. It’s not surprising it’s taking so long to clean up. It’s made worse by a bunch of morons who decided to ignore the travel ban, then got their cars stuck, blocking roads and making it hard for plows to clean up.\nThe city is doing what it can.", ">\n\nAs someone who lives here, the actual city itself (i.e. not the surrounding towns) does an awful job of clearing snow. The city in general is pretty poorly run, and always is the last municipality in the area to dig out after a snow storm. \nWhat's going on right now is that (to nobody's surprise) the city failed to clear its own snow, and the county, state, and surrounding towns are picking up its slack. \nWhen you drive from Buffalo into one of its suburbs in the winter there's usually a visible line where the street starts being plowed, at the municipal boundary." ]

[ "I'm curious what was different about this storm. Buffalo is used to feet of snow but this seems to have caught everything off-guard.", ">\n\nTwo days of 40+ mph winds with gusts over 70. There were times Friday and Saturday that I couldn't see my neighbor's house, conditions were so bad.\nSo, the whiteout conditions, coupled with abandoned cars blocking the roads, prevented the snowplows from keeping up with the snowfall.", ">\n\nWtf was the government supposed to do? Hurricane-like wind force, and 4+ feet of snow. It’s not like it was completely clear there either, Buffalo had gotten another huge snow storm not that long ago, and a little snow before this.\nThat snow all has to go somewhere. they can’t just magically poof it away.\nI live in the capital region and I’ve seen constant streams of maintenance vehicles heading west over the past few days. There’s literally only so much that can be done. I just don’t understand what people expected. It’s not like Buffalo sat on its hands - they’re very prepared for blizzards. This was a (formerly) once in a generation type storm, one of the worst the city has ever seen. It’s not surprising it’s taking so long to clean up. It’s made worse by a bunch of morons who decided to ignore the travel ban, then got their cars stuck, blocking roads and making it hard for plows to clean up.\nThe city is doing what it can.", ">\n\nAs someone who lives here, the actual city itself (i.e. not the surrounding towns) does an awful job of clearing snow. The city in general is pretty poorly run, and always is the last municipality in the area to dig out after a snow storm. \nWhat's going on right now is that (to nobody's surprise) the city failed to clear its own snow, and the county, state, and surrounding towns are picking up its slack. \nWhen you drive from Buffalo into one of its suburbs in the winter there's usually a visible line where the street starts being plowed, at the municipal boundary.", ">\n\nYup, I went down Elmwood Ave yesterday to go to my parents. The stark difference between in street conditions in the maybe 50 to 100 feet as I crossed from village of Kenmore into the city of Buffalo was astounding, but unsurprising." ]

[ "I'm curious what was different about this storm. Buffalo is used to feet of snow but this seems to have caught everything off-guard.", ">\n\nTwo days of 40+ mph winds with gusts over 70. There were times Friday and Saturday that I couldn't see my neighbor's house, conditions were so bad.\nSo, the whiteout conditions, coupled with abandoned cars blocking the roads, prevented the snowplows from keeping up with the snowfall.", ">\n\nWtf was the government supposed to do? Hurricane-like wind force, and 4+ feet of snow. It’s not like it was completely clear there either, Buffalo had gotten another huge snow storm not that long ago, and a little snow before this.\nThat snow all has to go somewhere. they can’t just magically poof it away.\nI live in the capital region and I’ve seen constant streams of maintenance vehicles heading west over the past few days. There’s literally only so much that can be done. I just don’t understand what people expected. It’s not like Buffalo sat on its hands - they’re very prepared for blizzards. This was a (formerly) once in a generation type storm, one of the worst the city has ever seen. It’s not surprising it’s taking so long to clean up. It’s made worse by a bunch of morons who decided to ignore the travel ban, then got their cars stuck, blocking roads and making it hard for plows to clean up.\nThe city is doing what it can.", ">\n\nAs someone who lives here, the actual city itself (i.e. not the surrounding towns) does an awful job of clearing snow. The city in general is pretty poorly run, and always is the last municipality in the area to dig out after a snow storm. \nWhat's going on right now is that (to nobody's surprise) the city failed to clear its own snow, and the county, state, and surrounding towns are picking up its slack. \nWhen you drive from Buffalo into one of its suburbs in the winter there's usually a visible line where the street starts being plowed, at the municipal boundary.", ">\n\nYup, I went down Elmwood Ave yesterday to go to my parents. The stark difference between in street conditions in the maybe 50 to 100 feet as I crossed from village of Kenmore into the city of Buffalo was astounding, but unsurprising.", ">\n\nI live in Canada about an hour from Buffalo. We didn't get hit as hard, but I know Fort Erie by the border did. I'd love to know what the difference in responses were as I've heard nothing about a death toll here (I am sure there are a few though). I do know most things were cancelled on the Friday and we had the city have those with snowmobiles help stranded motorists. Neighbours took in stranded people, but surely the response can't have been that different. It took a few days for them to dig out which is normal for the amount of snow." ]

[ "I'm curious what was different about this storm. Buffalo is used to feet of snow but this seems to have caught everything off-guard.", ">\n\nTwo days of 40+ mph winds with gusts over 70. There were times Friday and Saturday that I couldn't see my neighbor's house, conditions were so bad.\nSo, the whiteout conditions, coupled with abandoned cars blocking the roads, prevented the snowplows from keeping up with the snowfall.", ">\n\nWtf was the government supposed to do? Hurricane-like wind force, and 4+ feet of snow. It’s not like it was completely clear there either, Buffalo had gotten another huge snow storm not that long ago, and a little snow before this.\nThat snow all has to go somewhere. they can’t just magically poof it away.\nI live in the capital region and I’ve seen constant streams of maintenance vehicles heading west over the past few days. There’s literally only so much that can be done. I just don’t understand what people expected. It’s not like Buffalo sat on its hands - they’re very prepared for blizzards. This was a (formerly) once in a generation type storm, one of the worst the city has ever seen. It’s not surprising it’s taking so long to clean up. It’s made worse by a bunch of morons who decided to ignore the travel ban, then got their cars stuck, blocking roads and making it hard for plows to clean up.\nThe city is doing what it can.", ">\n\nAs someone who lives here, the actual city itself (i.e. not the surrounding towns) does an awful job of clearing snow. The city in general is pretty poorly run, and always is the last municipality in the area to dig out after a snow storm. \nWhat's going on right now is that (to nobody's surprise) the city failed to clear its own snow, and the county, state, and surrounding towns are picking up its slack. \nWhen you drive from Buffalo into one of its suburbs in the winter there's usually a visible line where the street starts being plowed, at the municipal boundary.", ">\n\nYup, I went down Elmwood Ave yesterday to go to my parents. The stark difference between in street conditions in the maybe 50 to 100 feet as I crossed from village of Kenmore into the city of Buffalo was astounding, but unsurprising.", ">\n\nI live in Canada about an hour from Buffalo. We didn't get hit as hard, but I know Fort Erie by the border did. I'd love to know what the difference in responses were as I've heard nothing about a death toll here (I am sure there are a few though). I do know most things were cancelled on the Friday and we had the city have those with snowmobiles help stranded motorists. Neighbours took in stranded people, but surely the response can't have been that different. It took a few days for them to dig out which is normal for the amount of snow.", ">\n\nI shudder that this chaos & death occurred in a city that was probably the most prepared for this type of event (bad winter storm). This demonstrates how fragile the systems in place actually are." ]

[ "I'm curious what was different about this storm. Buffalo is used to feet of snow but this seems to have caught everything off-guard.", ">\n\nTwo days of 40+ mph winds with gusts over 70. There were times Friday and Saturday that I couldn't see my neighbor's house, conditions were so bad.\nSo, the whiteout conditions, coupled with abandoned cars blocking the roads, prevented the snowplows from keeping up with the snowfall.", ">\n\nWtf was the government supposed to do? Hurricane-like wind force, and 4+ feet of snow. It’s not like it was completely clear there either, Buffalo had gotten another huge snow storm not that long ago, and a little snow before this.\nThat snow all has to go somewhere. they can’t just magically poof it away.\nI live in the capital region and I’ve seen constant streams of maintenance vehicles heading west over the past few days. There’s literally only so much that can be done. I just don’t understand what people expected. It’s not like Buffalo sat on its hands - they’re very prepared for blizzards. This was a (formerly) once in a generation type storm, one of the worst the city has ever seen. It’s not surprising it’s taking so long to clean up. It’s made worse by a bunch of morons who decided to ignore the travel ban, then got their cars stuck, blocking roads and making it hard for plows to clean up.\nThe city is doing what it can.", ">\n\nAs someone who lives here, the actual city itself (i.e. not the surrounding towns) does an awful job of clearing snow. The city in general is pretty poorly run, and always is the last municipality in the area to dig out after a snow storm. \nWhat's going on right now is that (to nobody's surprise) the city failed to clear its own snow, and the county, state, and surrounding towns are picking up its slack. \nWhen you drive from Buffalo into one of its suburbs in the winter there's usually a visible line where the street starts being plowed, at the municipal boundary.", ">\n\nYup, I went down Elmwood Ave yesterday to go to my parents. The stark difference between in street conditions in the maybe 50 to 100 feet as I crossed from village of Kenmore into the city of Buffalo was astounding, but unsurprising.", ">\n\nI live in Canada about an hour from Buffalo. We didn't get hit as hard, but I know Fort Erie by the border did. I'd love to know what the difference in responses were as I've heard nothing about a death toll here (I am sure there are a few though). I do know most things were cancelled on the Friday and we had the city have those with snowmobiles help stranded motorists. Neighbours took in stranded people, but surely the response can't have been that different. It took a few days for them to dig out which is normal for the amount of snow.", ">\n\nI shudder that this chaos & death occurred in a city that was probably the most prepared for this type of event (bad winter storm). This demonstrates how fragile the systems in place actually are.", ">\n\nLol. Fight the weather! Throw rocks at the sun." ]