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> There is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"" ]
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[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard." ]
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[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood" ]
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[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent" ]
> The walls are closing in, guys.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns." ]
> He has 3 days
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys." ]
> all i want to see is where the money cones from....
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days" ]
> It would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from...." ]
> …and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown." ]
> He is going to win in 2024
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.", ">\n\n…and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!" ]
> What is his platform for how he'd run the country in 2024? Literally everything he's said during this current presidential run is about how the 2020 election was supposedly "stolen" or other Trump grievances.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.", ">\n\n…and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!", ">\n\nHe is going to win in 2024" ]
> This is it guys, the walls are closing in.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.", ">\n\n…and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!", ">\n\nHe is going to win in 2024", ">\n\nWhat is his platform for how he'd run the country in 2024?\nLiterally everything he's said during this current presidential run is about how the 2020 election was supposedly \"stolen\" or other Trump grievances." ]
> Any day now these walls, which have been closing for 6+ years now without doing anything, will finally get them… I’m sure of it/sarcasm
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.", ">\n\n…and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!", ">\n\nHe is going to win in 2024", ">\n\nWhat is his platform for how he'd run the country in 2024?\nLiterally everything he's said during this current presidential run is about how the 2020 election was supposedly \"stolen\" or other Trump grievances.", ">\n\nThis is it guys, the walls are closing in." ]
> Today was the day Donald Trump finally became president.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.", ">\n\n…and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!", ">\n\nHe is going to win in 2024", ">\n\nWhat is his platform for how he'd run the country in 2024?\nLiterally everything he's said during this current presidential run is about how the 2020 election was supposedly \"stolen\" or other Trump grievances.", ">\n\nThis is it guys, the walls are closing in.", ">\n\nAny day now these walls, which have been closing for 6+ years now without doing anything, will finally get them… I’m sure of it/sarcasm" ]
> More n_othing burg_ers coming right up. We'll get him this time!
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.", ">\n\n…and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!", ">\n\nHe is going to win in 2024", ">\n\nWhat is his platform for how he'd run the country in 2024?\nLiterally everything he's said during this current presidential run is about how the 2020 election was supposedly \"stolen\" or other Trump grievances.", ">\n\nThis is it guys, the walls are closing in.", ">\n\nAny day now these walls, which have been closing for 6+ years now without doing anything, will finally get them… I’m sure of it/sarcasm", ">\n\nToday was the day Donald Trump finally became president." ]
> They definietly aren't nothing burgers but the DOJ are too scared of what this would all mean going forward.
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.", ">\n\n…and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!", ">\n\nHe is going to win in 2024", ">\n\nWhat is his platform for how he'd run the country in 2024?\nLiterally everything he's said during this current presidential run is about how the 2020 election was supposedly \"stolen\" or other Trump grievances.", ">\n\nThis is it guys, the walls are closing in.", ">\n\nAny day now these walls, which have been closing for 6+ years now without doing anything, will finally get them… I’m sure of it/sarcasm", ">\n\nToday was the day Donald Trump finally became president.", ">\n\nMore n_othing burg_ers coming right up. We'll get him this time!" ]
> OK now I have a justice boner!
[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.", ">\n\n…and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!", ">\n\nHe is going to win in 2024", ">\n\nWhat is his platform for how he'd run the country in 2024?\nLiterally everything he's said during this current presidential run is about how the 2020 election was supposedly \"stolen\" or other Trump grievances.", ">\n\nThis is it guys, the walls are closing in.", ">\n\nAny day now these walls, which have been closing for 6+ years now without doing anything, will finally get them… I’m sure of it/sarcasm", ">\n\nToday was the day Donald Trump finally became president.", ">\n\nMore n_othing burg_ers coming right up. We'll get him this time!", ">\n\nThey definietly aren't nothing burgers but the DOJ are too scared of what this would all mean going forward." ]
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[ "Would it be poetic justice, karma or serendipity if Trump was indicted by the DOJ on January 6, 2023? Regardless of the date it actually occurs, some form of indictment and prosecution is needed, for him and all that enabled his misdeeds.", ">\n\nCall me when he's in an orange jumpsuit picking up trash by the side of the road on Jan 6th. That's what justice would look like.", ">\n\nI'd rather see Trump in a special cell like the one for Magneto in X-Men, only it's designed to keep him away from anything with a screen", ">\n\nHe don’t need a special cell like magneto. Solitary confinement and a bucket to shit in will suffice. But who are we kidding? If he does actually go to jail, it will be like the jail he goes to at the end of wolf of Wall Street. Tennis courts and brunch.", ">\n\nYa at a minimum he'll need everything private. He'd still have some kind of security detail right?", ">\n\nYea, talk about uncharted territory. Locking up a former POTUS. Knowing trump, if he actually does get sentenced with any amount of time, he will stop with the make-up and fake sun tan, he will then suddenly look like he’s aged 50 years in a day, he will pretend he is ill and they will put him in a fancy hospital bed for the rest of his life.\nOR:\nHe gets charged with high treason and is convicted in a state with the death penalty (Florida?). I could see desantis on board with this idea…\nEdit:\nBonus if they bury his body at sea next to UBL.", ">\n\nTreason would require he be aiding a country we are officially at war with I believe.", ">\n\nYou're correct.\nHe can be tried for seditious conspiracy.", ">\n\nWhatever, that is what it is supposed to do. He has suffered from lack of accountability his entire life. It is about time.", ">\n\nIn what meaningful way has he ever been held accountable? Nothing will happen. I hate these articles with a passion.", ">\n\nSame. \nThough I can't get interested more because he's adept at keeping court proceedings going forever, and he's only got a few years left on the clock.", ">\n\nI told my wife the next time I see his name I'd like it to be preceeded with the words \"Here lies\"", ">\n\nI'll take followed by \"was led away in handcuffs\" as a reasonable alternative.", ">\n\nPromise?", ">\n\nHe's still walking free and with zero real consequences. Not too much of an awful year so far.", ">\n\nYeah he needs to be an example of (jailed) so other leaders don’t think they can do similar stuff.", ">\n\nThere's already been examples of how it should work. Peru's President decided he wouldn't accept the results of an election, tried to dissolve parliament and remain in power, and was in custody within a couple of hours.\nJustice in the US is very much tiered based on multiple facets.", ">\n\nYeah but Peru is a proper free democratic country with a rule of law. Not a Disney show laissez faire paradise for blutocrats.", ">\n\nQuoting Freedomhouse— who boasts of having former US Congress critters, including a House Intelligence Committee member— (edit: on its board of directors) is laughable. It’s just a pro-US imperialism outfit.\nWhich countries again have problems holding their leaders accountable? Seem to be the “beacons of democracy” crowd that are full of shit.", ">\n\nThanks, you saved me a lot of typing", ">\n\nTwo weeks ago today, I was diagnosed with colorectal cancer. I named the tumor Donald Lump, as it is a malignant asshole tumor.", ">\n\nBummer. But I will never forget the name of your malignant asshole tumor. Respect my friend, for your humor in the face of adversity. May the sun shine upon your face and the road rise up to meet your feet. And may Donald Lump shrivel and die long before it’s namesake does. Salutations!", ">\n\nCall me when he is in prison.", ">\n\nCame here to say the same thing. It keeps getting \"worse\" and yet he's out holding rallies and flying around the world and posting insurrectionist shit on social media.", ">\n\nHe basically hasn’t left Maralago in over a month or left Florida in longer than that. Very different than usual.", ">\n\nThat is odd. Maybe he's croaking.", ">\n\nHe’s lost quite a bit of weight too. You’re probably right.", ">\n\nIt must be exhausting to be near or in his circle with all this legal drama", ">\n\nIt must have been terrible to sit at the trump family dinner table this Christmas. Oh how I would love to see a video of the dinner went", ">\n\nI imagine it like a Festivus celebration except it was all Airing of Grievances and no Feats of Strength.", ">\n\n6th year I’ve read this headline.", ">\n\nWhat was awful about his year? \nLast I checked, he avoided all criminal consequences for his many crimes, and he got to golf freely when any other American would be sitting in prison. \nHe raked in millions in donations, even AFTER committing egregious crimes and being found guilty of fraud. \nNow he's running for the highest office of the land, AGAIN, after inciting an insurrection against the very country he wants to lead. no one is stopping him, and there's a chance he could WIN it.\nI WISH I could have a year this \"awful\", I'd be sunning myself on my yacht.", ">\n\nVery much this. It's a real fucking sad indictment against the justice system of this country that the blatant fraudster and criminal conman is having a bad year that is better than most american's regular lives. if only we were all lucky enough to have a bad year where we can license our names and barely vague likeness to make some 4 million dollars.", ">\n\nMake sure he gets a prison cell with a low flow toilet. Those things piss him off", ">\n\nWith a prison window view of a field of cancer-causing windmills and a low-flow shower head factory.", ">\n\nGood. He deserves karma.", ">\n\nThis is more of a philosophical thing, but isn't the point of karma is that everyone deserves it?", ">\n\nDepends on how you define karma. Mostly the original meaning wasn't that what you do comes back to you, rather the understanding & responsibility of knowing that what you do affects others.", ">\n\nI didn't know that, I like that version better.", ">\n\nSame here. We shouldn't be relying on some sort of expected reward to be a decent human. Latching onto that, especially spiritually, seems very transactional.", ">\n\nYou know, Newsweek could probably change their name to Clickbait now.", ">\n\n\"about, should, could, may\" All of those words mean dick. We need action of justice. We need to see an arrest and indictment and charges. None of that has happened as investigations are \"still ongoing\" but the clock is running out on him being brought to justice.", ">\n\nThis is such an aside, so, sorry … but this whole chain of events kind of reminds me of why I stopped talking to my grandmother recently. \nPeople get to a certain age and feel like they’ve passed a certain threshold where they “got away with it”, or don’t have to apologize or that they have carte Blanche to do whatever they want… because hey, they made it this far and who fucking cares. \nThe reality is that this guy, who got away with everything his entire life, from rape to extortion, to treason, impeachment… the whole list. \nI take particular enjoyment knowing how devastating and impactful his swift plummet will be, and how he will go down in the history books as one of the worst of history. So will his whole family, which is why Ivanka (arguably the only intelligent and possibly most evil of the lot) has now distanced herself from him. \nOn one hand, he had 75 years of bliss, so of the few he’s got left being miserable might seem like poor compensation but he’s going to die absolutely miserable, with no respect and his reputation will be immortalized. It’s ironic that his favourite insult for the last 20 years has been to call people “losers”, when that’s what everyone will remember him as forever", ">\n\nWe’ve been waiting for them too long and they only got 6years from the irs. Idk that we will find or see what we want to. Still, I’ll be paying attention to the news pretty closely on Friday.", ">\n\nTrump doesn’t care. After a lifetime of lies and cons, he’s gotten away with everything. He truly believes that he will get away with all this too.", ">\n\nI keep hearing this, and yet here he is, in a mansion. Eating steak with ketchup.", ">\n\nIt's almost over.\nThen a worse year starts.", ">\n\nYes, please!", ">\n\nWe are victims to his crimes. Can we sue?", ">\n\nOf course you can sue. I wouldn't expect to win though.", ">\n\nNot our fault it's all catching up to him all at once. Should've been held accountable throughout his life like everyone else.", ">\n\nDidn't read but I'm guessing he's days away from being indicted? Facing jail time? Losing support? What's Michael Cohen saying? He's usually right in all his predictions... \n/s if it's needed", ">\n\nI have justice blue balls with this dude.", ">\n\nJmo, c'mon Garland, c'mon jack Smith, let's ring in the new year 2023 with a perp walk for tfg.", ">\n\nIs he in jail or permanently removed from pursuing office? Then I don’t care .", ">\n\nI’ll believe there will some accountability when I see it. Until then it’s click bait articles like this that remind of the movie Groundhog Day.", ">\n\nAnyone else tired of this same headline showing up everywhere????", ">\n\nLike duh 🙄", ">\n\nI keep hearing this but…", ">\n\nDoesn’t seem like his year as been all that bad after raising all that NFT money", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when I see it. That being said he is more unpopular - and irrelevant - than ever which could make indicting him more palatable for the justice department. Not that politics should have ever been involved in the decision in the first place", ">\n\nOh well. That’s what happens when you’re a pos", ">\n\nUntil he and everyone involved in this are behind bars he’s doing great.", ">\n\nKid’s this is why you dont brag about your money while committing crimes. Prison gangs will know how much you can afford in protection money.", ">\n\nGood. Fuck that guy.", ">\n\nThe “bad” things that happen to Trump are just precursors for actual bad things that never happen .\nCaught stealing classified docs - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught lying on his taxes - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nCaught trying to overthrow the government - ohh he’s gonna go to jail\nHow about some fines and actual jail before we talk about the “awful” year Trump is having", ">\n\n.. I know. The title of that article is silly....like two weeks back his NFT trading cards sold out overnight. The guy is doing pretty ok. He's a giant celebrity and his brand is lucrative.", ">\n\nLess clickbait, more do.", ">\n\nGood. He's made every year worse for me since he got into politics.", ">\n\nHe will never be convicted. Trump is a weak individual and would clearly cash out his own life before ever serving time for his crimes.", ">\n\nGuess what… we’ve heard this so many times before. Nothing is going to happen. There will be NO accountability.", ">\n\nDonald Trump deserves to be in jail, but Newsweek is a shit source.", ">\n\nThe DOJ is the one hurting democracy now. Get on with it. It’s getting ridiculous.", ">\n\nNah. As George Carlin famously said, \"It's a big club, and you ain't in it.\" One set of rules for the little powerless fish (us) and another for the rich and powerful fish. Ultimately, they look after their own.", ">\n\nHas he been arrested, yet? Thrown into detention while waiting for trial? Had assets frozen and or seized? Then his year isn't 'awful' at all, yet, and that's something that needs to be worked on.", ">\n\nMost awful year…so far (in Homer Simpson voice)", ">\n\nOne could only hope it gets much worse, orange jumpsuit worse.", ">\n\nOh what, is he going to get some dirt on his sandwich while avoiding jail for the 906th time?", ">\n\nJail!!!", ">\n\nWith 3 days left? Pssh just say next year will be worse (which I will believe when I see)", ">\n\nOh come now. That is simply not true. There are only 6 days left in the year so he gets to have a whole new worst year!", ">\n\nGood. Accountability is a thing and nobody is above the law. This clown has been grifting his entire life. It's about time he paid a price for his fraud.", ">\n\nHire me. I'll file charges and have him arrested by dinner time.", ">\n\nI’ll drive.", ">\n\nI hope that every day of the rest of this con’s life is a bad day.", ">\n\nObviously the Trump faithful would be unfazed, but I think most people would be irked to hear they’ve paid more in taxes over several years than a political candidate living on a country club.", ">\n\nI seriously doubt anything is going to happen in the next 3 days, Newsweek.", ">\n\nLet’s hope so, jail until he rots…", ">\n\nIs it really, though? Yet to see any real consequences for this asshole.", ">\n\nBeen reading these articles for years. He's fucked around, but he's white and rich so he'll never find out in America.", ">\n\nDon’t threaten me with a good time.", ">\n\nPretty sure this is the 10th time I heard about how awful this year was for him.. and he's still going about golfing and crashing people's weddings living like any old person his age does.. no consequences for his actions if it were anyone else they would have been locked up and forgotten by now.\nThis can't be a bad year for him if he's still living freely", ">\n\nWould someone like Trump get sent to normie federal jail? Or would he be sent to some relatively plush establishment with his own ensuite and whatnot?", ">\n\nEnough with these fucking awful takes already.\nUnless the motherfucker is indicted, stop with the pipe dreams. The fucker has never been held accountable, why would it start now. He caused an insurrection AND stole state secrets and nothing has happened. JFC", ">\n\nlol without issue this veal brained criminal continues to live a life of luxury unachieved by like 99.999% of human beings that have ever lived.", ">\n\nI’ve been seeing articles like this for years", ">\n\nI suppose ill take an indictment as a late christmas present.", ">\n\nProve it.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Why hasn't he even been arrested? Its been two years. The GA phone call was recorded and everyone has heard it. He threatened an official to give him just enough votes to win by one vote. Its on tape.\nHe stole classified documents and has admitted that he did it many times. Where is the indictment? \nJan 6th? DOJ is going to say there isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction and will pass on it.", ">\n\nApparently just having literal mounds of evidence with an unimpeachable chain of custody, along with numerous public statements confessing to the crimes and dozens of corroborating witnesses, isn't enough.\nFrom what everyone says, for some reason it takes years to investigate these crimes for which all the necessary evidence is already sitting in a vault. It would seem this stuff is so complicated that my non-lawyer mind simply can't grasp how ridiculous it is to suggest that already having an ironclad case is enough to charge somebody with something.\nThat said, I do actually expect an indictment in the Georgia case within the next month or two.", ">\n\nReleasing his taxes will humiliate him because men in his wealth spectrum, can see how poorly he really does.\nThis will be murderous to his business.\nHe doesn't give a dam about the poor seeing them because they can't decipher the meanings.", ">\n\nI kinda want him to not get arrested until after 2024 so that he can bring the entire Republican Party down with him before the next election. But maybe that’s too much to ask…", ">\n\nsometimes I feel like Trump will be 2 years into his second term and Newsweek will be like \"Are the Walls FINALLY Closing in on Trump??\"", ">\n\nLol, they will be like that after he has thrown a successful coup the next time and be like “the rebellion’s walls are closing in on God Emperor Trump… we’re sure they’ll get him this time.”", ">\n\nAnd 2023 looks to be shaping up to be a doozey..", ">\n\nI'll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nYada, yada, yada. Same old bullshit story. Will believe it when he's indicted.", ">\n\nNothing will happen to him. Prove me wrong.", ">\n\nI've been waiting 6 long, tormented years for this.\nREJOICE!", ">\n\nIs it though? Is he really having an awful year? Or is he just chilling in his lavish compounds? It’s hard to have a bad time when you are incapable of feeling guilt or shame. \nI still say he will never see the inside of a jail cell let alone prison cell. I’ll believe it when I see it.", ">\n\nI'll drink to that.", ">\n\nA rich, powerful White Republican being held accountable by DOJ? Laughable.\nDOJ exists solely to protect the god-given immunity of White Right Wing power structures, and to feed the prison industrial complex poor and non-white bodies for slave labor.\nThey have already shown us this with their willful inaction in response to the Jan 6th attack on Democracy. Only the poor face consequences. The rich planners, plotters, and funders are free to continue their public crime spree, which they are!", ">\n\nHe’s doing great. Still a free man. Doing whatever he likes without any consequences.", ">\n\nSo excited to see this headline for the 272738295th time without any meaningful consequences. I’m sure this will be the one!", ">\n\nHe’s a fraud, bla bla bla, go to jail!! It’s sad, my mom insists her money is now worthless. The stock market is down we’re in a recession..She says us is printing money that’s worthless. All because she listens and still loves trump. This guy is the absolute worst thing that has ever happened to our planet!", ">\n\nCan we ban these posts until something actually happens please", ">\n\nHe was rich and powerful when the year started and he’ll be rich and powerful when it ends.", ">\n\nIf I had a nickel for every time I've read that headline.", ">\n\nThe only article I want to read now is when and if the DOJ indicts him", ">\n\nOh, is it? Ok. Such a lazy clickbait headline.", ">\n\nOh his awful terrible no good year of raking in millions for nothing and completely getting a pass on dozens of crimes and having dinner in his private resort and never being inconvenienced in any way! Fuck I’m tired of the press being bad.", ">\n\nTired of these daily 'Trump is about to be screwed' articles when nothing ever happens to him or his fellow traitors.", ">\n\nI’ll believe it when it happens.", ">\n\nRepublicans: \"But what did he actually do?\"", ">\n\nThere is no such thing as Club Fed anymore. Even the Camp at Eglin AFB stopped allowing inmates on the golf course and the food, while better than a lot of state prisons or county jails, is a far cry from when the Watergate crew got locked up. Trump can be housed where Noriega used to reside in Miami FCC with his own room and rec yard.", ">\n\nGood", ">\n\nExcellent", ">\n\nI have already seen his tax returns.", ">\n\nThe walls are closing in, guys.", ">\n\nHe has 3 days", ">\n\nall i want to see is where the money cones from....", ">\n\nIt would be nice to stop hearing about this ass clown.", ">\n\n…and some people say miracles don’t exist!! well they apparently do!", ">\n\nHe is going to win in 2024", ">\n\nWhat is his platform for how he'd run the country in 2024?\nLiterally everything he's said during this current presidential run is about how the 2020 election was supposedly \"stolen\" or other Trump grievances.", ">\n\nThis is it guys, the walls are closing in.", ">\n\nAny day now these walls, which have been closing for 6+ years now without doing anything, will finally get them… I’m sure of it/sarcasm", ">\n\nToday was the day Donald Trump finally became president.", ">\n\nMore n_othing burg_ers coming right up. We'll get him this time!", ">\n\nThey definietly aren't nothing burgers but the DOJ are too scared of what this would all mean going forward.", ">\n\nOK now I have a justice boner!" ]
Ha. No. Republicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. Look no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. There are no "good" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be "good". You can only be complicit.
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> You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be "good". The voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, "what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?"
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit." ]
> The house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"" ]
> that's actually a real thing in our law Where did you get that idea? See Wikipedia: However, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't." ]
> Article 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency." ]
> The newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too." ]
> Exactly. He’s a vote.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican." ]
> But he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote." ]
> I wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him." ]
> If Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him." ]
> Sadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance. He will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters." ]
> He will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings. Seeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings." ]
> Would a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens." ]
> I mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. There is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic." ]
> The conservative sub was about half comments saying "this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?" and half "He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his." :/
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada" ]
> Ethics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project. Conservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/" ]
> Minus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity." ]
> Will the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love." ]
> Corporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?" ]
> Had he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. Blatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla." ]
> If he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?" ]
> he's just really really weird lookin
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary" ]
> I think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin" ]
> Republicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears." ]
> No they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”" ]
> ... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway." ]
> I still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague." ]
> The probe can find out where the money really came from.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it." ]
> Some rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from." ]
> Would you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?" ]
> Personally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened." ]
> The only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!" ]
> To be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat." ]
> If any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros." ]
> Lol no. They will happily seat him.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume." ]
> I’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: He should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. He should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. I haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him." ]
> Regarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally." ]
> Oh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner. But so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?" ]
> They are not and mostly they will be silent.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting." ]
> It astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent." ]
> Well there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant." ]
> Does it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there." ]
> Special election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?" ]
> If they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November." ]
> Nope. Morals do not exist in the party
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies." ]
> One of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval. The threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction. This is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party" ]
> He'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority." ]
> All he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. He has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)" ]
> Republicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness." ]
> Betteridge's Law of Headlines says NO
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life." ]
> When the headline is a question the answer is always no.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO" ]
> I want to know who bank rolled this guy.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no." ]
> No.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy." ]
> They wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo." ]
> The dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. The smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality." ]
> Forget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous." ]
> Finally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down." ]
> They have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years." ]
> i want him to stay , become the " classclown ". this is hilarious. its literally a republican using " Bourgeois " as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down" ]
> If nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees. I have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better." ]
> "You're late to the party." - Kyrsten Sinema
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it." ]
> We can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... Feedback is neccessary
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema" ]
> Police their own? Nope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it. Come on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary" ]
> No. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare." ]
> So, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary. BUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it." ]
> Are Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos? Yeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!" ]
> He’s their new favorite scumbag
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are." ]
> To answer the question: probably not.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag" ]
> I’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not." ]
> He’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists." ]
> If you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, In fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?" ]
> Why would they? Santos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore. As long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a "team player", you can be gay (as long as your not a "groomer"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage.." ]
> Watch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!" ]
> Is he wearing makeup? He looks like Marcy D’arcy
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!", ">\n\nWatch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken" ]
> Congress is full of clowns, qualifications and experience clearly don't matter, not sure why this is outrageous.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!", ">\n\nWatch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken", ">\n\nIs he wearing makeup? He looks like Marcy D’arcy" ]
> They'll feign outrage & do nothing, as usual..
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!", ">\n\nWatch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken", ">\n\nIs he wearing makeup? He looks like Marcy D’arcy", ">\n\nCongress is full of clowns, qualifications and experience clearly don't matter, not sure why this is outrageous." ]
> I don’t know… what has MTG told McCarthy say about it ?
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!", ">\n\nWatch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken", ">\n\nIs he wearing makeup? He looks like Marcy D’arcy", ">\n\nCongress is full of clowns, qualifications and experience clearly don't matter, not sure why this is outrageous.", ">\n\nThey'll feign outrage & do nothing, as usual.." ]
> He's been turned on by Republicans for awhile.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!", ">\n\nWatch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken", ">\n\nIs he wearing makeup? He looks like Marcy D’arcy", ">\n\nCongress is full of clowns, qualifications and experience clearly don't matter, not sure why this is outrageous.", ">\n\nThey'll feign outrage & do nothing, as usual..", ">\n\nI don’t know… what has MTG told McCarthy say about it ?" ]
> Why is dude wearing so much fucking makeup. Looks ridiculous
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!", ">\n\nWatch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken", ">\n\nIs he wearing makeup? He looks like Marcy D’arcy", ">\n\nCongress is full of clowns, qualifications and experience clearly don't matter, not sure why this is outrageous.", ">\n\nThey'll feign outrage & do nothing, as usual..", ">\n\nI don’t know… what has MTG told McCarthy say about it ?", ">\n\nHe's been turned on by Republicans for awhile." ]
> I don’t get why they’d stick their necks out for this loser. Censure him, take him off any committees, and primary him with a somewhat vetted candidate.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!", ">\n\nWatch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken", ">\n\nIs he wearing makeup? He looks like Marcy D’arcy", ">\n\nCongress is full of clowns, qualifications and experience clearly don't matter, not sure why this is outrageous.", ">\n\nThey'll feign outrage & do nothing, as usual..", ">\n\nI don’t know… what has MTG told McCarthy say about it ?", ">\n\nHe's been turned on by Republicans for awhile.", ">\n\nWhy is dude wearing so much fucking makeup. Looks ridiculous" ]
> Nope. Ever since Reagan's days Republicans do not criticize other Republicans except when actively campaigning agains them (primaries and such). Once that's over with, no Republican can ever do any wrong in the eyes of other Republicans.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!", ">\n\nWatch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken", ">\n\nIs he wearing makeup? He looks like Marcy D’arcy", ">\n\nCongress is full of clowns, qualifications and experience clearly don't matter, not sure why this is outrageous.", ">\n\nThey'll feign outrage & do nothing, as usual..", ">\n\nI don’t know… what has MTG told McCarthy say about it ?", ">\n\nHe's been turned on by Republicans for awhile.", ">\n\nWhy is dude wearing so much fucking makeup. Looks ridiculous", ">\n\nI don’t get why they’d stick their necks out for this loser. Censure him, take him off any committees, and primary him with a somewhat vetted candidate." ]
> Not when Qevin needs his vote for speaker, they won't.
[ "Ha. No. \nRepublicans will not (and cannot) hold Santos accountable for his blatant lies. To do so would mean they're holding him to some objective truth and Republicans have done everything in their power over the last decade to actively destroy faith in such a thing. \nLook no further than any number of lies or moral failings discovered every. fucking. day. by Republican politicians including, but not limited to, literal criminal activity that have resulted in zero consequences for the perpetrators. \nThere are no \"good\" Republicans. You cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\". You can only be complicit.", ">\n\n\nYou cannot be a member of the party actively working against democracy and attempting to erode the concept of objective reality and be \"good\".\n\nThe voters elected the guy. This is what democracy looks like. What you really should be arguing is that, since the GOP is usually against democracy, \"what's so wrong with also being anti-democratic in this instance also?\"", ">\n\nThe house can choose not to sit him, that's actually a real thing in our laws, but the gop won't do it. So that's out. They should, but they won't.", ">\n\n\nthat's actually a real thing in our law\n\nWhere did you get that idea?\nSee Wikipedia:\n\nHowever, the U.S. Supreme Court, in Powell v. McCormack (1969), limited the powers of the Congress to refuse to seat an elected member to when the individual does not meet the specific constitutional requirements of age, citizenship or residency.", ">\n\nArticle 1, section 5, clause 2 of the constitution. Look it up. They can get rid of him once he arrives. I was sort of off on the refuse to seat thing, but basically correct. Once he is there he can be removed. He can be kicked off committees or not put on them at all, too.", ">\n\nThe newly controlled Republican House will not get ride of him at all. Because he is a Republican.", ">\n\nExactly. He’s a vote.", ">\n\nBut he's a warm body who will likely vote for Kevin McCarthy for Speaker, so you know Kevin's okay with him.", ">\n\nI wonder if he had to pledge his fealty to Kevin in order for Kevin not to shun him.", ">\n\nIf Santos doesn't get recalled in some manner, none of it matters.", ">\n\nSadly, we can’t recall a federal representative. No mechanism for that exist. I highly doubt Congress will create a law that gives the people the power to recall Congress members when they are unhappy with their representatives performance.\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.", ">\n\n\nHe will most likely need to resign from all the pressure at some point or another major revelation that will force him out, maybe something to do with his tax filings.\n\nSeeing how republicans are absolutely immune to shame, I seriously doubt that happens.", ">\n\nWould a party run by liars and fueled by lies hold a fellow liar accountable? Nope, they have no morals or dignity, and only care that having another Republican seat gives them more power. Herschel was the same type of Liar, and was actually criminal and violent, and they sent their best to hold his hand at every opportunity. GOPathetic.", ">\n\nI mean after their dismal performance in the midterms, fueled by the BS-MAGA-Election-Denying Candidates endorsed by Trump…GOP knows they should condemn BUT leadership will stay quiet cuz they need his vote. \nThere is one member from a flipped NY district that is speaking out I think cuz he knows he’s in a district that can easily go dem if he says nada", ">\n\nThe conservative sub was about half comments saying \"this looks bad, how can we trust him for anything?\" and half \"He shouldn't step down becasue dems play dirty so we should too and also the vote in the house is slim and we can't lose his.\" \n:/", ">\n\nEthics, integrity, honor, empathy, and fortitude are what conservatives pretend to project.\nConservative lies, deception, racism, fascism, dishonor and misinformation are how they justify equality and equity.", ">\n\nMinus the fame, George has many of the same fake qualities as DJT that Republicans love.", ">\n\nWill the press ever stop asking if republicans are finally going to do the right thing or take responsibility?", ">\n\nCorporate News is fair and balanced and not an obvious political 800-pound gorilla.", ">\n\nHad he been a dem, the pitchforks and torches would already be distributed amongst the GOP and Saber rattling about censure, no commitees, etc. would already have been promised. \nBlatant hypocrisy but at this point is anyone really surprised?", ">\n\nIf he was a dem he wouldn’t have made it on the ballot for the primary", ">\n\nhe's just really really weird lookin", ">\n\nI think the word repulsive works here. I get an instant visceral reaction every time I see that smarmy, dough-boy face. Same reaction that I get when the Orange Cheeto appears.", ">\n\nRepublicans, after all of this time, are not going to shown any signs of self-awareness, because morality is “woke.”", ">\n\nNo they really aren't. Not the ones that matter anyway.", ">\n\n\n... on Tuesday, Nick LaLota—a fellow Republican who just won a congressional seat on Long Island to the east of the New York district Santos won—called for a probe of his would-be colleague.", ">\n\nI still don't see what a probe is supposed accomplish. He lied, he admitted it.", ">\n\nThe probe can find out where the money really came from.", ">\n\nSome rich wall street guy? How is this surprising?", ">\n\nWould you believe at least some from a relative of a f'ing Russian oligarch who is close to Putin? Cuz yeah. That happened.", ">\n\nPersonally, I'm not a racist so I don't care whether he got money from a Slavic person or not. You may not know this, but there are actually 360 million Slavic people in the world and they don't all personally work for Putin, despite the common racist trope. Not all Jews are secretly loyal to Israel either, no matter what Kanye tells you!", ">\n\nThe only way the GOP will turn on Santos is if he comes out and says that he lied about being a Republican and is actually a Democrat.", ">\n\nTo be fair, they can't read all that well and probably think it's George Soros.", ">\n\nIf any are . . . BIG IF . . . then it is due to optics, not actions. Republicans do not give a fuck about republican lies, whether in degree, kind, or volume.", ">\n\nLol no. They will happily seat him.", ">\n\nI’ve pretty much only seen two types of takes from Republicans on this: \n\n\nHe should resign, and also LOL how did no one do a better job vetting their opposition in this race, as all of this would have presumably sunk his candidacy. \n\n\nHe should resign, but it’s not really that surprising if he doesn’t and this stuff blows over, because politicians lie about their past all the times in big and small ways and get passes on it: insert XYZ time Democrat lied. \n\n\nI haven’t seen a single take supporting him sincerely as if he’s some humble man who mixed up some details about his past accidentally.", ">\n\nRegarding number 1, don’t fall in the trap of letting the media get away with covering its tracks regarding how they didn’t uncover this story. It isn’t up to Democrats to do that and, besides, what difference would it have made? The media failed to do its job by conducting investigative reporting and is now trying to blame Democrats for their failures. Or, this is a novel idea, why didn’t the GOP vet their own guy?", ">\n\nOh, I don’t give any slack to journalists and the media. The vast majority of media produced in the mainstream is garbage and not proper journalism, and they absolutely should have found this out sooner.\nBut so should have Dems (and primary challenging Republicans) with proper opposition research, and so should have Republicans with proper candidate vetting.", ">\n\nThey are not and mostly they will be silent.", ">\n\nIt astounds me how this is the closest we'll get to them, possibly, pushing a member out. Gaetz, Boebert, Greene, Jordan...the list goes on with how many are absolutely disgusting within their party, but no, Santos is where they may draw the line. Maybe the lies are too blatant.", ">\n\nWell there was Madison Cawthorn, who of course was replaced with another fascist in his safely red district. But that was definitely a takedown job by the concerted forces of Murdoch and the RNC. God knows what was still waiting to come out there.", ">\n\nDoes it matter if he steps down or is removed now, or after appointed? What are the laws for replacing a representative in New York? Special election? Governor appointment? Could the GOP seat swing to Democrat?", ">\n\nSpecial election. I believe it wouldn't be until November.", ">\n\nIf they do, it's only to save face and not out of any real disdain for his lies.", ">\n\nNope.\nMorals do not exist in the party", ">\n\nOne of the problems with the top down nature of the Republican party is acting on these kinds of character flaws requires approval for disapproval.\nThe threat of getting primaried is an axe at the neck of all Republicans reducing their ability to act out of consience always looking to the party dads for direction.\nThis is the one thing that keeps the GOP from being replaced and in power even as a minority.", ">\n\nHe'll be fine until the 3rd. McCarthy needs his vote for Speaker. (He needs it for the house in general but he really only cares about being Speaker.)", ">\n\nAll he wants for his birthday is a cake with Sarah Huckabee Sanders jumping out of the top wearing his grandma’s mumu. \nHe has his favourite liars picked the same way other people pick teams during March Madness.", ">\n\nRepublicans are not going to force this liar to resign with such a slim house majority. Nothing is going to happen. All I learned is that I should have lied more in life.", ">\n\nBetteridge's Law of Headlines says NO", ">\n\nWhen the headline is a question the answer is always no.", ">\n\nI want to know who bank rolled this guy.", ">\n\nNo.", ">\n\nThey wouldn’t turn on him for lying. They might turn on him for his sexuality.", ">\n\nThe dude looks unhinged as fuck every time I see a photo of him. Like, he’s not sure how to properly smile, and is just kinda making a face that sorta resembles a smile. \nThe smile never reaches his eyes, Santos has got to have some other mental issues other than just being a pathological liar. Dude’s likely dangerous.", ">\n\nForget all the stuff that has come out. I don’t trust him because his ears were clearly put on upside down.", ">\n\nFinally? That’s lightning quick compared to 6-1/2 years.", ">\n\nThey have probably conducted their own investigation and have come to the conclusion that he is screwed. They do not want to be in the blast radius when he goes down", ">\n\ni want him to stay , become the \" classclown \". this is hilarious. \nits literally a republican using \" Bourgeois \" as an argument against his opponents. doesnt get any better.", ">\n\nIf nothing happens, we have a way to undermine the GOP. Run democrats for GOP seats, where they blatantly lie about their positions and party during their campaign. They clearly don’t care about lying about positions or background - see santos and their Supreme Court appointees.\nI have a feeling they’ll suddenly care about if Democrats do it.", ">\n\n\"You're late to the party.\"\n- Kyrsten Sinema", ">\n\nWe can only hope they are willing to send a signal that it is not ok to be false... \nFeedback is neccessary", ">\n\nPolice their own? \nNope, they want the outrage so high that the Democrats do their work for them, while they make it an up hill battle, then act like victims for it.\nCome on Democrats, burn your political capital on a weasily junior representative so that the house can put beat you over the head on the omnibus bill and submit bills about ending Obamacare.", ">\n\nNo. Kevin McCarthy needs his vote to be speaker. Secondly that district is competitive if an special election were held it could go to dems, reps will never chance it.", ">\n\nSo, if this process is initiated, it may take lots of time before 2/3 of the members might agree (as if they ever would). In the interim, the reported member can be refused membership to any committees / subcommittees ... and can be left to stare at the gonads of their secretary.\nBUT, it appears the reported member can still vote on any bills!", ">\n\n\nAre Republicans Finally Starting to Turn on Liar-Elect George Santos?\n\nYeah, right. That's a good one. The GQP will only really turn on him once they have no use for him anymore. But he's certainly making the party of world-class hypocrites and liars look even worse than they already are.", ">\n\nHe’s their new favorite scumbag", ">\n\nTo answer the question: probably not.", ">\n\nI’m starting to wonder if he actually exists.", ">\n\nHe’s got a very odd, pale purple/brown/puce/green tinge to his complexion and unnaturally white teeth; a la Kari Lake. Did they get their glamour shots done at the same time using a groupon?", ">\n\nIf you hold Santos to account for his lying what about Trump, Desantis, Mitch McConnell, Greg Abbott, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc, \nIn fact which Republicans couldn’t be criticised for lying for political advantage..", ">\n\nWhy would they?\nSantos is a living, breathing example of how inclusive & tolerant the modern Republican Party is...this isn't your grandpa's GOP, anymore.\nAs long as you toe the Party line with respect to policy, and are a \"team player\", you can be gay (as long as your not a \"groomer\"), a liar, and pretend to be whatever ethnicity you want...this is about Freedom!", ">\n\nWatch them not force him to resign. Compare with what gillebrand did to franken", ">\n\nIs he wearing makeup? He looks like Marcy D’arcy", ">\n\nCongress is full of clowns, qualifications and experience clearly don't matter, not sure why this is outrageous.", ">\n\nThey'll feign outrage & do nothing, as usual..", ">\n\nI don’t know… what has MTG told McCarthy say about it ?", ">\n\nHe's been turned on by Republicans for awhile.", ">\n\nWhy is dude wearing so much fucking makeup. Looks ridiculous", ">\n\nI don’t get why they’d stick their necks out for this loser. Censure him, take him off any committees, and primary him with a somewhat vetted candidate.", ">\n\nNope.\nEver since Reagan's days Republicans do not criticize other Republicans except when actively campaigning agains them (primaries and such). Once that's over with, no Republican can ever do any wrong in the eyes of other Republicans." ]