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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth)."
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Only if there’s a cop around. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?"
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Cops in DC won’t pull you over for that either.
They just rely on speed cameras. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around."
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Posters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing? | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras."
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I think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.
Putting up signs feels like a work pizza party. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?"
] |
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Maybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party."
] |
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Depends on the kind of pizza. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders."
] |
>
Bananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza."
] |
>
/r/PizzaCrimes | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting."
] |
>
This is the equivalent of the "Baby On Board" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes"
] |
>
I'm pretty sure the "baby on board" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably."
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I never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back."
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Yep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog."
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I always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness."
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Yeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person... | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat."
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Yup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person..."
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“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”
-George Carlin RIP | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids."
] |
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most religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP"
] |
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96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day."
] |
>
Hitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again."
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Fair enough, just needed someone to told me | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity."
] |
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This is big "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas" energy. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me"
] |
>
Posters are really just guidelines though. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy."
] |
>
This will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though."
] |
>
Of course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off"
] |
>
"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now." | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code."
] |
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My thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV) | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\""
] |
>
Are we really so pathetic that we need "Remember murder is illegal!" signs? | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)"
] |
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We had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?"
] |
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We really do live in a dystopia don’t we | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year."
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Church and State just got blury. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we"
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Just? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury."
] |
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Please lord send me a sign | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america"
] |
>
"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!" | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign"
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\""
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Will cops be able to read that? | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?"
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While we're at it can we make "Thou shalt not commit adultery" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?"
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“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10
You got off easy buddy | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support."
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In my case it was the other way around though | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy"
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That is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least! | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though"
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Probably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!"
] |
>
You mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet?
Be as helpful as those "no gun zone" signs. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy"
] |
>
The type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs."
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Maybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big "Gun-Free Zone" sticker on the city. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence"
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Sounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!
Oh, wait... | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city."
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Is this for the cops or...? | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait..."
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For some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?"
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"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities." | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much."
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What they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\""
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Nah. Mom already dropped the ball. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop."
] |
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It probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball."
] |
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Why not give it a try? | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either."
] |
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I lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?"
] |
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Its also better translated and modernized as "Do not murder," since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language.
Fun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them.
Can't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.
Another approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.
Finally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution."
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Sounds like a challenge to me | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations."
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Years ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me"
] |
>
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people."
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I expect this will work about as well as "Just say no!" | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no."
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If there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\""
] |
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I thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments."
] |
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Iono, makes me want to shoot the sign? | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars"
] |
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I know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit! | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?"
] |
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just grafitti it | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!"
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Your government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it"
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I like how all the sudden religion is cool again. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely."
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again."
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well I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work."
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Gun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice"
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Yes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.
Now that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it"
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Hows bout curbing abortions? | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023."
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A big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters! | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?"
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You know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!"
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Fun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most). | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything"
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most)."
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Is DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…"
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program"
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort"
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\""
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military."
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Is this the child of the "You wouldn't steal a car?" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it! | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state"
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If they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!"
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Great news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality."
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime."
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If only they put "Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids" in churches | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time"
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I think the politicians are getting nervous...
They should be. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches"
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If anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be."
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Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb"
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time"
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How? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting"
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I'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.
"Thou shalt not kill"
"Let's kill LGBTQ"
Can somebody clarify? | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL"
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There are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?"
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Just ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?",
">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing."
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I dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?
Do they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along? | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?",
">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.",
">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh."
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?",
">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.",
">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.",
">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?"
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As soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?",
">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.",
">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.",
">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?",
">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution."
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I have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?",
">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.",
">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.",
">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?",
">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.",
">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol"
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?",
">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.",
">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.",
">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?",
">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.",
">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol",
">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity."
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"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?",
">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.",
">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.",
">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?",
">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.",
">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol",
">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.",
">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up."
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Let me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?",
">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.",
">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.",
">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?",
">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.",
">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol",
">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.",
">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.",
">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?"
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Because "no gun zone" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.
DC's tax dollars at work, as usual. | [
"Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...",
">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.",
">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.",
">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.",
">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.",
">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments",
">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"",
">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?",
">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.",
">\n\nOn guns…",
">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.",
">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.",
">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.",
">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?",
">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.",
">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.",
">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.",
">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.",
">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?",
">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!",
">\n\nbreaking bad good ending",
">\n\nRIP Combo :(",
">\n\nChurch!",
">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!",
">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.",
">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.",
">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.",
">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.",
">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.",
">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).",
">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?",
">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.",
">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.",
">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?",
">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.",
">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.",
">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.",
">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.",
">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes",
">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.",
">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.",
">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.",
">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.",
">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.",
">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...",
">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.",
">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP",
">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.",
">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.",
">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.",
">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me",
">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.",
">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.",
">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off",
">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.",
">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"",
">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)",
">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?",
">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.",
">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we",
">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.",
">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america",
">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign",
">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"",
">\n\nAre they bulletproof?",
">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?",
">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.",
">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy",
">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though",
">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!",
">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy",
">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.",
">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence",
">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.",
">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...",
">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?",
">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.",
">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"",
">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.",
">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.",
">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.",
">\n\nWhy not give it a try?",
">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.",
">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.",
">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me",
">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.",
">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.",
">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"",
">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.",
">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars",
">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?",
">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!",
">\n\njust grafitti it",
">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.",
">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.",
">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.",
">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice",
">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it",
">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.",
">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?",
">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!",
">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything",
">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).",
">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…",
">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program",
">\n\nMaximum effort",
">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"",
">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.",
">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state",
">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!",
">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.",
">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.",
">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time",
">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches",
">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.",
">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb",
">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time",
">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting",
">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL",
">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?",
">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.",
">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.",
">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?",
">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.",
">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol",
">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.",
">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.",
">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?",
">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible"
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