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[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it." ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser." ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways." ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs." ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work." ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY", ">\n\nBasically, it's just saying, \"Please don't shoot people.\" In such a nonchalant way that it's like asking your friend to move their car." ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY", ">\n\nBasically, it's just saying, \"Please don't shoot people.\" In such a nonchalant way that it's like asking your friend to move their car.", ">\n\nWell if there's one thing that can stop people killing others it's the bibble. No one could ever do anything bad or try to justify their horrible actions if they were religious." ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY", ">\n\nBasically, it's just saying, \"Please don't shoot people.\" In such a nonchalant way that it's like asking your friend to move their car.", ">\n\nWell if there's one thing that can stop people killing others it's the bibble. No one could ever do anything bad or try to justify their horrible actions if they were religious.", ">\n\nI never thought about killing no one until I saw a sign telling me I couldn't. Don't tell me what to do." ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY", ">\n\nBasically, it's just saying, \"Please don't shoot people.\" In such a nonchalant way that it's like asking your friend to move their car.", ">\n\nWell if there's one thing that can stop people killing others it's the bibble. No one could ever do anything bad or try to justify their horrible actions if they were religious.", ">\n\nI never thought about killing no one until I saw a sign telling me I couldn't. Don't tell me what to do.", ">\n\nWhat if they just made murder illegal?" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY", ">\n\nBasically, it's just saying, \"Please don't shoot people.\" In such a nonchalant way that it's like asking your friend to move their car.", ">\n\nWell if there's one thing that can stop people killing others it's the bibble. No one could ever do anything bad or try to justify their horrible actions if they were religious.", ">\n\nI never thought about killing no one until I saw a sign telling me I couldn't. Don't tell me what to do.", ">\n\nWhat if they just made murder illegal?", ">\n\n\"Fine, I guess I won't do it \"\n-John Mulaney" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY", ">\n\nBasically, it's just saying, \"Please don't shoot people.\" In such a nonchalant way that it's like asking your friend to move their car.", ">\n\nWell if there's one thing that can stop people killing others it's the bibble. No one could ever do anything bad or try to justify their horrible actions if they were religious.", ">\n\nI never thought about killing no one until I saw a sign telling me I couldn't. Don't tell me what to do.", ">\n\nWhat if they just made murder illegal?", ">\n\n\"Fine, I guess I won't do it \"\n-John Mulaney", ">\n\nIf you live in DC, this is your sign to kill somebody with one of these signs" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY", ">\n\nBasically, it's just saying, \"Please don't shoot people.\" In such a nonchalant way that it's like asking your friend to move their car.", ">\n\nWell if there's one thing that can stop people killing others it's the bibble. No one could ever do anything bad or try to justify their horrible actions if they were religious.", ">\n\nI never thought about killing no one until I saw a sign telling me I couldn't. Don't tell me what to do.", ">\n\nWhat if they just made murder illegal?", ">\n\n\"Fine, I guess I won't do it \"\n-John Mulaney", ">\n\nIf you live in DC, this is your sign to kill somebody with one of these signs", ">\n\nI’m living in a Political South Park episode" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY", ">\n\nBasically, it's just saying, \"Please don't shoot people.\" In such a nonchalant way that it's like asking your friend to move their car.", ">\n\nWell if there's one thing that can stop people killing others it's the bibble. No one could ever do anything bad or try to justify their horrible actions if they were religious.", ">\n\nI never thought about killing no one until I saw a sign telling me I couldn't. Don't tell me what to do.", ">\n\nWhat if they just made murder illegal?", ">\n\n\"Fine, I guess I won't do it \"\n-John Mulaney", ">\n\nIf you live in DC, this is your sign to kill somebody with one of these signs", ">\n\nI’m living in a Political South Park episode", ">\n\nReminds me of this Anti-murder PSA from That Mitchell and Webb Look" ]

[ "Damn, I was gonna kill some one but I saw this sign that said \"STOP\". I been stuck here for days...", ">\n\nThey put up a lot of \"no shoot zone\" graffiti in some Baltimore neighborhoods and I have to say I've never seen shootings happen where I've seen those so I'm not going to say they don't work but I'm also not going to say they don't work.", ">\n\nSocial workers worked that out with the gangs. Provides safe routes for children.", ">\n\nPublic reminders in the form of graffiti is part and parcel to gang politics. The idea that symbols are NOT important to human behavior is as absurd as the idea that they are all-important. \nI would need dig it up, but there are studies that show that workplace lunch theft drops significantly if you put a pair of cartoon eyes next to the fridge. Humans aren’t completely rational agents. There are tried and true ways to hack behavior, for better or worse.", ">\n\nSymbols are super important. Baltimore's symbols work because they were agreed on.\nI don't know if DC actually reached out to gang leaders via community outreach to get them on board.", ">\n\nI know this is far fetched, but hear me out. People who murder others do not live by the Ten Commandments", ">\n\nChristian logic: \"People are doing terrible things. We'll just put up a copy of the 10 commandments and a Bible verse. That'll fix 'em.\"", ">\n\n“Thoughts and prayers”\nHow about laws and limits?", ">\n\nPretty sure murder is already illegal.", ">\n\nOn guns…", ">\n\nGo research the laws already in place on guns in DC and then come back an post what you’ve learned.", ">\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. I live in DC and your question made me remember how I looked into buying a firearm. The restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense. I have a clean background and I’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later. My neighborhood has the lowest crime rate. Most crimes here are car break ins and stolen bikes. For now, my pitbull is enough. She goes everywhere with me. She has attack commands (I don’t have children).\nAll that being said, up until a few years ago, DC used to be the most dangerous city in America before Chicago and St. Louis. Today we’re at 52. 95% of crime is within the east side districts. However, I think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not, it wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those neighborhoods of big cities regardless of what statistics show in most other states.", ">\n\n\nIf you’re from DC you get this. \n\nI live in VA and have worked in DC.\n\nThe restrictions are pretty heavy and the registration process takes a long time, which all makes sense.\n\nIt doesn't make sense. The criminals don't spend that time. And, mostly the process is designed to take time and cost money to get the exact result you gave them - not owning or carrying a gun.\nI have a DC carry permit and more than one gun registered with DC. I've gone through all the process and paid all the money.\n\nI’m not interested in open carry because Metro PD shoots first asks questions later.\n\nYou're bigger issue is that open carry is 100% illegal in DC. \n\n95% of crime is within the east side districts.\n\nThe majority, sure, but not 95%, that's an exaggeration and I'm sure you understand that. But there is plenty of crime in NW.\n\nI think more lax gun control laws wouldn’t make a difference because whether strict or not,\n\nThe stricter laws didn't have the propaganda supported outcome. \n\nit wouldn’t significantly change the rate of gun violence in those districts regardless of what statistics show in most other states.\n\nI believe it would. Aside from pure statistics, just look at the easily observable situations.\nDC, PG MD, and Arlington VA all have similar populations. DC makes it very difficult to own/carry a gun and has the highest crime rates. MD is slightly easier but still not easy to own a gun and until recently carrying was virtually impossible and they have crime rates comparable to DC. Arlington (despite what the local politicians would like) is relatively easy to own and carry a gun thanks to state laws and they have the lowest crime rates of the three jurisdictions.\nIf the good people in SE were able to have guns, then maybe there would be lower crime. But the bigger issue is keeping the criminals in jail, and with the new revisions to the criminal code that's going to be even harder to do.", ">\n\n👍👍👍 thanks for your feedback. I don’t know why I left out NW. I just looked it up and it was 87% last year for homicide, so you’re right but I’m not toooo far off. I’m sure there are many good people in these districts do have guns in the home and/or concealed permits. I’m fine with open carry. What I do know is that statistically, it takes an average of 10 years for the cities to see some significant drop in gun related homicide. I still believe that crime rates in violent communities in DC won’t have a compelling change in homicide rates. We do need to remember that having an OC license doesn’t necessarily make you a nonviolent person. One thing I didn’t consider, and thank you for bringing that up, is that when people have to defend themselves with an illegal firearm, could the victim be charged with said illegal firearm in addition to the perpetrator?", ">\n\nI think very few people have LEGAL guns in DC on a per capita basis and compared to similar jurisdictions. And far fewer have carry permits. \nWhile you may be Ok with open carry DC is not. It’s illegal in all circumstances (non-LEO) just to be clear. \nIf someone has an illegal gun and defends themselves, the defensive use of the gun is evaluated on its own. In other words, if the shooting was lawful self defense they will be fine for any charges related to shooting/killing the attacker. However they can, and almost certain will, be charged for having the illegal gun. \nLook up Bernhard Goetz. He carried a gun illegally on NYC subway. He was attacked and defended himself. Fine for the shooting. Went to prison for carrying a gun illegally.", ">\n\nNo, but posters of kittens on tree branches that say “Hang in there baby” might.", ">\n\nHey everyone! Let's put this guy in charge.", ">\n\nI was quoting Machiavelli.", ">\n\n\nMachiavelli\n\nSteve Machiavelli?", ">\n\ntucks gun back into waistband\nHey man, really sorry, you're good. Poster up there says \"Thou shalt not kill\", and I'm a man of Jesus. Here, take the meth, too. Do unto others, eh? Have a good one!", ">\n\nbreaking bad good ending", ">\n\nRIP Combo :(", ">\n\nChurch!", ">\n\nBrought to you by the folks that brought you, \"Just Say No\", and \"This is your Brain on Drugs\"!", ">\n\nAs much as “Just Say No” curbed crack use in the 80’s.", ">\n\nThe original translation of the Bible never was \"thou shalt not kill\". It was more like \"thou shall not commit murder\". Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.", ">\n\nWhat do you consider the original translation of the bible?\nAlso this would only matter to those who worship the government above god. And are you aware the 10C was changed so we could have christianity?\n>Killing and murdering someone can be two completely different things.\nNow that's good biblin'.", ">\n\nI mean, old school God was not against killing people. He has the Israelites going out killing folks from rival tribes willy nilly. Killing rivals was like half the Old Testament! God was totally cool with systematically executing the rival tribe’s men, women, and children, as well as throwing babies into bonfires. And then God commands them to burn down the city, maybe take some slaves, and move on to the next tribe ready for more killing.\nHowever, you aren’t allowed to murder your family, your neighbor, or your fellow tribesman. That creates division and weakness within the tribe and kinda goes against the whole point of having a tribe to begin with. You got to shut that shit down, or your tribe won’t grow in strength and numbers. Which was another of God’s command.\nSo by this logic, gang violence is still allowed as long as you are killing folks from a rival gang. But don’t go murdering anyone within your gang. That’s weak.", ">\n\nLet's use the morality from the book that celebrates Abraham nearly sacrificing (murdering) his son until a ram pops out of nowhere.", ">\n\nSame book that was okay with actual child sacrifice over a poorly worded sentence, which also features talking snakes, cussing donkeys, genocide of your in-laws' entire tribe, whales with no digestive fluids, demon exorcisms crashing the local bacon industry, and a nude lady on a seven-headed dragon going to war against Jesus (who's killing everyone by firing swords from his mouth).", ">\n\nDo speed limit signs work?", ">\n\nOnly if there’s a cop around.", ">\n\nCops in DC won’t pull you over for that either. \nThey just rely on speed cameras.", ">\n\nPosters? Was just doing nothing not an option, so they had to do the next best thing?", ">\n\nI think they just realized that doing nothing is a bad option, seeing as how it hasn't worked so far. People are starting to realize that no one in power is doing anything about this weekly issue and it makes them look bad.\nPutting up signs feels like a work pizza party.", ">\n\nMaybe more pizza parties brings fewer murders.", ">\n\nDepends on the kind of pizza.", ">\n\nBananas on pizza? That's a mass shooting.", ">\n\n/r/PizzaCrimes", ">\n\nThis is the equivalent of the \"Baby On Board\" stickers that were prevalent in the 90s. About as effective as well, probably.", ">\n\nI'm pretty sure the \"baby on board\" stickers were not to discourage people from crashing into you, but to encourage first responders to look for a small child in the back.", ">\n\nI never thought about that before. I really though they were to make other drivers reconsider following too closely. I have a sticker on my front door to let emergency workers know I have a dog.", ">\n\nYep that’s a common misconception. I even remember a time when I thought that as a kid for some reason. Found out it was for First Responders when I was a teenager and that explanation made waaaaaaaay more sense. Though I would also hope it’s common sense to always check on small children/babies first, just good for visual awareness.", ">\n\nI always thought it was just decoration or for other drivers. I know when I was training to be an EMT we were told to ignore those stickers. They don't matter because they don't really give us any useful information. We're gonna look anyway. Not like we're going to miss a baby or toddler in the back seat.", ">\n\nYeah, I am pretty sure they are only used as a decoration these days by people who can only identify themselves as a parent and not as their own person...", ">\n\nYup it's like how some people have stick figure decals showing the parents and kids.", ">\n\n“thou shalt not kill. Murder. The fifth commandment. But when you think about it. When you think about it, religion has never really had a big problem with murder. Not really. More people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason. All you have to do is look at Northern Ireland, the Middle East, Kashmir, the Inquisition, the Crusades and the World Trade Center to see how seriously the religious folks take thou shalt not kill. The more devout they are the more they see murder as being negotiable. It’s negotiable. It depends. It depends. It depends on who’s doing the killing and who’s getting killed.”\n-George Carlin RIP", ">\n\nmost religios people dont support these things. Also political ideologies like nazism and communism killed way more people and some defend that to this day.", ">\n\n96% of Nazi Germany was Christian. Try again.", ">\n\nHitler litarely forced chuches to put the swastika above the cross. Every even remotly credible christian figurhead condemd the nazis, many went into exile or got executed. Dietrich Bonhoeffer even played a big role in an assasination attempt against Hitler. Just because the genaral public was christian does not mean that Nazism has anything to do with Christianity.", ">\n\nFair enough, just needed someone to told me", ">\n\nThis is big \"we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas\" energy.", ">\n\nPosters are really just guidelines though.", ">\n\nThis will never work. The last part of the sentence is cut off", ">\n\nOf course they can't. Biblical commandments have more loopholes than the US tax code.", ">\n\n\"Let me assign meaning to a bible verse... just give me a minute to look up something that fits my thought right now.\"", ">\n\nMy thoughts right now: Ezekiel 23:20 (NIV)", ">\n\nAre we really so pathetic that we need \"Remember murder is illegal!\" signs?", ">\n\nWe had them in New Orleans. Reached record murders last year.", ">\n\nWe really do live in a dystopia don’t we", ">\n\nChurch and State just got blury.", ">\n\nJust? That shit has been blurry for a while. People always think religious states are bad when they talk about muslims but nobody ever talks about christian fanaticism in america", ">\n\nPlease lord send me a sign", ">\n\n\"Please, guys, we can only blame Republicans for so long!\"", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?", ">\n\nWill cops be able to read that?", ">\n\nWhile we're at it can we make \"Thou shalt not commit adultery\" into law and posters? That would have saved me a lot of child support.", ">\n\n“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. Leviticus 20:10\nYou got off easy buddy", ">\n\nIn my case it was the other way around though", ">\n\nThat is messed up you ended up paying child support then. Happy cake day at least!", ">\n\nProbably as much as an abstinence only sex ed would prevent teenage pregnancy", ">\n\nYou mean religion, one of the biggest reasons people murder each other on this planet? \nBe as helpful as those \"no gun zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThe type of crime they're attempting to reduce is not religious violence", ">\n\nMaybe they could just outlaw murder in DC? Or stick a big \"Gun-Free Zone\" sticker on the city.", ">\n\nSounds safe and effective, let's give it a try!\nOh, wait...", ">\n\nIs this for the cops or...?", ">\n\nFor some politicians to make it look like they're doing something. Genuinely think this is worse than nothing because of the wasted money on signs. Even $40 would be too much.", ">\n\n\"We'll appeal to their Christian sensibilities.\"", ">\n\nWhat they need to do if give their Mamma’s more authority. An army of Mom’s with the licence to whoop.", ">\n\nNah. Mom already dropped the ball.", ">\n\nIt probably won’t help, but it doesn’t hurt either.", ">\n\nWhy not give it a try?", ">\n\nI lived in DC in the early 90s. These exact signs were a thing there then as well. Pretty sure DC needs to come up with an alternative solution.", ">\n\nIts also better translated and modernized as \"Do not murder,\" since killing is permitted in some circumstances such as self defense or war. That's what more modern translations render it as, although the KJV has clearly left its imprint on the English language. \nFun fact, when translating languages, particularly by machines and/or for more obscure languages, translators might use and rely upon at least in part, the Bible to aid translations since its been translated into so many different languages with great effort to maintain fidelity. Thus a basic translation dictionary can be created from them. \nCan't speak for other languages but at least in English there are many translations avaliable with different philosophies. The KJV for example has a literal mechanical word for word, which follows the letter as much as possible, perhaps too much so, since it leads to clunkyness because humans are conplicated and have nuances between languages and culture. This starts and ends with the original text itself.\nAnother approach is more sentence by sentence like the NIV, which gives more flexibility in creating a still faithful rendition that is more natural and can account for these complexities. Its a more contextual approach, and it tries to account for the spirit and letter to varying degrees. It starts with the text, but doesn't necessarily end there.\nFinally, you have the NLT, and its more thought for thought which is the most distanced from the original, trying to communicate the original thoughts of the text, looking at what and how and why the messsage being communicated the most. Its more intent oriented, the most spirit of the law oriented. Honestly, some of these are more of paraphrases than translations.", ">\n\nSounds like a challenge to me", ">\n\nYears ago Philly had ones that said Stop shooting people.", ">\n\nI'm gonna go out on a limb here and say, no.", ">\n\nI expect this will work about as well as \"Just say no!\"", ">\n\nIf there's anything in this world that's great at preventing killing it's religious commandments.", ">\n\nI thought it was aimed at the politicians funding endless wars", ">\n\nIono, makes me want to shoot the sign?", ">\n\nI know 700 of this exact comment have probably been made, but my god this is some truly only-in-america shit!", ">\n\njust grafitti it", ">\n\nYour government is effective and spends your tax dollars wisely.", ">\n\nI like how all the sudden religion is cool again.", ">\n\nIs the poster also a ceramic trauma plate? That might work.", ">\n\nwell I wasn't gonna but fuck signs so now I have no choice", ">\n\nGun violence perpetuates discourse in the lower classes of this country, so those in power have no motive to do anything serious about it", ">\n\nYes, it is widely accepted that the main reason for all those mass shootings in America is that people were unaware that they shouldn't.\nNow that that's cleared up, we expect no further complications. Have a nice 2023.", ">\n\nHows bout curbing abortions?", ">\n\nA big improvement over all the CONSUME and OBEY posters!", ">\n\nYou know what? Human monke so dumb, it might actually help a little. At this point USA could use anything", ">\n\nFun fact: Christians actually have one of the highest murderer ratios (or at least as a religious demographic, they are caught murdering, the most).", ">\n\nWhich of the 10 commandments are they going to use to prevent rape? Oh wait…", ">\n\nIs DC exempt from the separation of church and state type shit? This seems like it violates that, if this is a government program", ">\n\nMaximum effort", ">\n\nThis will almost be as good as \"Just say No\"", ">\n\nIf I saw these hanging up, I'd assume that someone was trying to prevent abortion or were protesting the allocation of the nation's budget to the military.", ">\n\nAnd another chip away at the separation of church and state", ">\n\nIs this the child of the \"You wouldn't steal a car?\" ad? Because we all know we did NOT pirate any movie because of it!", ">\n\nIf they think quoting the Bible is going to work on GOP, they are in for a rude reality.", ">\n\nGreat news, now outlaw death as the punishment for any crime.", ">\n\nFunny the state kills people all the time", ">\n\nIf only they put \"Thou Shalt Not Diddle Kids\" in churches", ">\n\nI think the politicians are getting nervous... \nThey should be.", ">\n\nIf anything it will raise the murder rate by bringing murder to the front of people’s minds. So fucking dumb", ">\n\nWas that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time", ">\n\nWell anyway I started blasting", ">\n\nHow? If You're a murderer you likely don't care about anything sacred to other people. And America is not interested in any type of moral compass so no I don't think it'll help if anything it'll make it much worse LOL", ">\n\nI'm getting mixed messages from xtians these days.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\"\n\"Let's kill LGBTQ\"\nCan somebody clarify?", ">\n\nYou'd actually be surprised. \nThere are plenty of things that are much more subliminal that have a substantial effect on curbing violence, and there are studies to back this up. Like did you know that pictures of eyes in a vicinity, even painted eyes or cartoon eyes, have been known reduce crime? Or that sometimes gas stations in high crime areas will play opera music at night? Like I know it's silly, but tiny things like this might make someone on the fence think twice about doing something rash. Obviously it's far from a perfect solution, but it's not nothing.", ">\n\nJust ban murder and assault, then it can’t happen anymore duh.", ">\n\nI dunno. How do they solve gun violence in all those countries without hundreds of millions of guns and constant mass shootings? You know, the civilized countries?\nDo they have a lot of posters? Was that the secret all along?", ">\n\nThe government buys everyone guns. Adults, kids, babies, everyone. More guns is always the best solution.", ">\n\nAs soon as the first poster was put up, gun violence must have decreased by 80%, absolutely. Lol", ">\n\nI have to admit I’m anxious to see those stats a year after the signs are posted. Literally morbid curiosity.", ">\n\nThe trick is to wait until the murder rate is falling, then put the posters up.", ">\n\nThere any \"thou shalt not fuck kids\" posters?", ">\n\nLet me just look that up in the ol' Bible...oh look...no age of consent. I think you discovered why so many pedophiles are fans of the bible", ">\n\nBecause \"no gun zone\" signs already have such a wonderful effect on crimes involving firearms, along with the umpteen hundred already existing gun control laws that would have disarmed criminals in the first place had the laws lived up to their claimed intents.\nDC's tax dollars at work, as usual.", ">\n\nlmao they will try literally everything accept the solution dead ass in front of them", ">\n\nUnfortunately, no. Not with the insane Washington gun lobby fueling the fire for gun-toting MAGA morons.", ">\n\n\"We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!\"", ">\n\n“Thou shalt not kill” is just the WOKE MOB trying to CANCEL OUR CULTURE with PRONOUNS!", ">\n\nWhat a clever substitute for real gun laws.", ">\n\nI mean, they tried the strictest ones in the nation to the point the supreme court shot it down, and there was zero improvement\nThey're throwing spaghetti at the wall at this point", ">\n\nStep 1: Tax corporations their fair share. (+~$1T)\nStep 2: Dismantle all means tested welfare. (+~$500B)\nStep 3: Dismantle the DEA and \"war on drugs\". (+~$25B)\nStep 4: Defund extremist militarized police budgets and massively reduce prison industry. (+~$500B)\nStep 5: Spend more on enforcing tax laws and prosecuting \"white collar\" crimes. (+~$1-1.5T)\nStep 5: Pay a universal basic income that increases every year you go without a felony. (-~$2.5T)\nThere, I solved 90% of \"crime\" in the US, solved the poverty issue, and even ramped up for a massive new Roaring 20's.\nYou're welcome.", ">\n\nIt was so simple all along. How can I vote for you?", ">\n\nGun control seems more practical. Just saying.", ">\n\nKnow what will curb gun violence, gun control laws. But don't ask the brain damaged dip shits at r/Firearms", ">\n\nYou mean in the city that banned all functional guns from 1976-2008 and was still the murder capitol of the country for many of those years?\nOne where you still can’t buy a gun in the city and to have one you have to first register it with the police department which can takes weeks or months.\nYou really think more gun control laws are going to have an impact on crime in DC?\nAnd you say that people in another sub are brain damaged. SMH.", ">\n\nThanks for pointing this out", ">\n\nWon't help, also is a church state violation.", ">\n\nStop this stupid shit and take the illegal guns out of the gang banger’s hands. Stop acting like we have a gun problem we have a gang problem. Mandatory minimums just short or cruel and unusual and round them up.", ">\n\na six year old just shot his teacher with a gun his mother bought. gang-related, do you think?", ">\n\nCould be. You don’t know any more than I do. Could he be a product of his environment? Maybe. Was mom a responsible gun owner? No. Means you can take mine? Nope.\nEdit: my point is signs don’t stop anyone. The school, like all of them, is a gun free zone. Who does this stop?! Signs are stupid and action is needed. Gang related gun deaths drive up all of the statistic and that’s the real problem.", ">\n\nCan’t hurt.", ">\n\nIf you want people in DC to act like people, maybe start by treating them like people. We shouldn't have humans in this country with 0 representation in Congress.", ">\n\nNah, the woke faction will shoot that down for proselytizing.", ">\n\nBro... Americans are WAY too delusional. HAHAHAHAH. Fml. Ban guns already you dumb fucks.", ">\n\nAre they bulletproof?\nLegislation removing guns from the streets can reduce gun violence.", ">\n\nDo this instead. \nMy thinking is wholesome memes that get people to connect to a wholesome community be it a festival, artist, twitter etc. would have a good effect. We should be advertising wholesome memes as mustard seeds and introducing people to comics with strategies and patterns explaining emotional intelligence. The medium is the message. Show people positive communities and content to make them want to use a phone for good connections. A natural place is to use unused advertising space on transit.\nExamples:\nRobot hugs webcomic blanket fort explaining you don't need to fix people just listen and be there for them.\nWholesome memes twitter... I have a parrot and when it gets agitated I calmly say hey , and speak softly. Yesterday when I was agitated \"UUGGHH\" my parrot said 'hey' 'hey' softly ten times to me. My parrot has better conflict de-escalation skills then most people.\n(Wholesome memes twitter community is full of such messages and strategies. Advertise proven viral messages)\nFestivals:. Show highlights of past festivals photos, location and future dates. Get people connected locally.\nHomeless art:. Reconnect communities\nPoems and famous quotes and inspirational speeches. -\nIf you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange these apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas. — George Bernard Shaw\nMLK Jr quotes etc\nCats with confusing auras twitter-. Share quirky positive communities. \nWe should be advertising positive viral content, building communities, explaining emotional intelligence and reaching out to people's 💖 Spread the good ideas to give people wholesome dopamine.", ">\n\nLet's be realistic. NO this is not going to slow down or stop people shooting each other. It's not guns that are the problem. It's the mentality that it's ok to kill someone for whatever selfish reason the killer has.\nFirst of all, look around you, especially here on reddit. How many people do you think support religion, especially christianity? From what I've been observing online, people hate religion, especially christianity. People keep hating on christians, they keep hating on christmas even, they keep hating on the church. Over time, the number of religious people have declined. This is modern day America we're talking about. People believe that religion is more of a cause for trouble than a source of morality or inspiration. In short, criminals who commit crime probably don't give a damn about religion in the first place.\nSecond, what do you think criminals in the old days or even hundreds of years ago, used to commit crime? Yes that's right, knives, bows and arrows, swords, whips, rocks. Believe it or not, criminals today still use those weapons in the modern day when they don't have access to guns. Knife attacks are the most common and under reported crime. They're easier to get, easier to conceal, and easier to use. Swords, machetes, you often see those used in countries like Brazil where people still use them as gardening tools. Bows and arrows, just last year before christmas, I believe it was in France where some drunk guy was shot with an arrow right in the heart because he wouldn't shut up and he was disturbing the neighborhood. Rocks, these are still used in countries where mobs grab a suspected rapist or molester and then they just stone him to death, often resulting with a broken skull. Rocks are even used here in the US to try and kill people on the freeway.\nYou can't just focus on \"gun violence\", because gun violence is part of a bigger problem. The problem is that people think it's ok to kill people. You need to find why they think that way. Maybe it's because of the way they're being raised. What kind of family situation do they have. Do these criminals have parents? What were these parents teaching them? What kind of environment do these people grow up in?\nThe problem is not \"gun violence\". The problem is people think it's ok to use all sorts of violence to have their way, even if it kills somebody. That's what the government should be trying to figure out.", ">\n\nThat's a lot of red flags for one post.\nGod bless you.", ">\n\nProbably fucking not. Replace that with a massive overhaul of gun safety regulations and a buyback program and we’ll see.", ">\n\nNone of that has ever worked in DC before. At one point you could barely own a firearm that was functional, let alone carry out in public. Yet it was still the murder capital of the country for many years, with more firearm deaths than any place else.", ">\n\nThe same effect as \"gun free zone\" signs.", ">\n\nThose work on law abiding gun owners.", ">\n\nCriminal: Haha! I won't obey the sign and I know law abiding people will be defenseless!", ">\n\nNo because god does not exist", ">\n\nFantastic! Can with have 30 of them put around every police station and one above every squad car parking spot. This has the potential to save a lot of lives this way.", ">\n\nImagine thinking that sky fairy words can solve anything.", ">\n\nWashington DC.\n\"Thou shalt not kill\" posters.\nNo comments at all on US government warmongering.\nsmmfh.", ">\n\nLol fuckin wat? Bruh this country is fuckin doomed.", ">\n\nThey tell people God isn’t real and late term abortion is fine, then use one of Gods Ten Commandments and expect it to do mean anything to people lmao", ">\n\nIt's a great sentiment. im for it. but african american culture and violence is the real issue here. until the culture is addressed none of this will stop", ">\n\nJesus Christ.", ">\n\nGovernment has spent the last 60 years systematically removing God from society, and now that things are a mess they want to reintroduce him? Good luck.", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure a large number of Republicans believe that the sentence ends with “unless they’re Democrats.”", ">\n\nI didn't work for the entirety of the last millennia, why would it now?", ">\n\nNo. Who is the intended target? I can tell you no for any group.", ">\n\n\"But these people deserve to die. I'm doing the right thing.\"", ">\n\nprobably not, the people this is probably pointing towards only care about the ten commandments when they arent breaking them", ">\n\nWe did it, guys! We solved murder!", ">\n\nI’m sure these signs will have the same impact that speed limit and stop signs have.", ">\n\nDo the cancer and death warnings on cigarettes stop smoking?", ">\n\nThat does sound convincing", ">\n\nMaybe they can stop war profiteering civilian deaths. That'd be nice", ">\n\nThis is so dystopian", ">\n\nThis makes me want to kill more people just to illustrate its ineffectiveness.", ">\n\nCry, little sister", ">\n\nWow, why did no one ever think to put up a sign? /s", ">\n\nI see them being repurposed for anti abortion nonsense", ">\n\nNarrator: They could not.", ">\n\nhell no", ">\n\nThou Shalt Not Kill*", ">\n\nIts kind of like the massive rising violence in the State of Indiana. The news keeps saying the city of Indianapolis plans to work with church leaders to stop all the daily shootings.\nChurch. All the shooters go to church. This will work.", ">\n\nAs useful as \"Thoughts and Prayers\"", ">\n\nThat's gonna work just as well as the Just Say No bullshit.", ">\n\nThey'll be full of holes faster than the no poaching signs out in the country.", ">\n\nNo", ">\n\nI’ll put a million on ‘No’", ">\n\nThou shalt be reminded of the last 4000 years of human history", ">\n\nI thought this meant DC comics. Like putting them in the opening credits of movies and loading screen of games lol", ">\n\nI assumed these were anti abortion/pro life signs. I predict this campaign backfires.", ">\n\nJust say No", ">\n\nHey! Where did my murderous thoughts go?", ">\n\nWhat a fucking joke.", ">\n\nA prime example of Betteridge's Law of Headlines.", ">\n\nThey'll curb it the same amount as thoughts and prayers.", ">\n\nI was trying to put out a campfire, so I wrote \"Thou Shalt Not Burn!\" on the back of a used paper plate and put it in the firepit.\nThe fire got brighter for a bit, and then the plate was gone. Then the fire kept burning. I guess it wasn't paying attention.", ">\n\nLet's ask Ian Betteridge.", ">\n\nNo, most there aren't Christian", ">\n\nSomeone is gonna get killed standing next to one of those", ">\n\nMeanwhile, in Newport News…", ">\n\nAw cmon. At least put some Jesusy eyes on it. We had a sign with peepers on it at the honor snack bar at my work way back when we had an office. Supposedly a legit psychological phenomenon.", ">\n\nIt's fine as long as you apologize to Jesus at the last moment", ">\n\nAre they being put in the cop cars?", ">\n\nNo. It's a sign. It can't stop anyone. XD", ">\n\nSomeone else should put up some posters with\n\n“Your sins are forgiven.”\n- Luke 7:48", ">\n\nThey can just ask for forgiveness. Nice little loophole.", ">\n\nYou should cross post this to /r/washingtondc", ">\n\nDone", ">\n\nLike those don’t drive high billboards.. yeah sure some real Jesus shit there that no one will pay the slightest attention too", ">\n\nUnOnion for a sec but I still can't believe that if DC was a state it would dwarf all other states in violent crime.", ">\n\nCan you provide the stats?", ">\n\nMfers really said STAUP GUYS FOR REAL", ">\n\nThat will work. What a bunch of dumb fucks.", ">\n\nLol try telling that to the robbers.", ">\n\nIt won’t hurt.", ">\n\nHighest income inequality in the whole nation. Extremely high violence rate. Coincidence?", ">\n\nNope, by design", ">\n\nWell shit.. now there is a sign telling them not to.. oh boy.", ">\n\nNot killing =/= not owning guns of any description. Only not using them to MURDER innocent people.", ">\n\nDamn I killed an ant am I condemned?", ">\n\nSure. That was the key all the time", ">\n\nYeah, this should do it.", ">\n\nHopefully it'll curb abortion.", ">\n\nAnswer: no.", ">\n\nWhat the hell is a curb gun?\n/s", ">\n\nAnd what are people supposed to do with all their guns? Turn bible pages?", ">\n\nRemember to place this at the height of 6 year olds so they can read it.", ">\n\nMaim, you say?", ">\n\nNo one reads signs", ">\n\nDid that commandment help curb sword violence during the crusades?", ">\n\nKind of ironic if they’re referencing the god of Abraham; the dude who drowned 99.99% of ALL LIFE", ">\n\nReligion trying wheedle its way back into being mainstream. No one wants to hear it.\nif you follow a religion, you're a bloody loser.", ">\n\nI don’t wanna kill. I just wanna maim and torture so I’m good, right? 😏\n/s", ">\n\nI believe this is how Satan was stoped actually. God put a sign saying thou shall not sin and Satan agreed. The end", ">\n\nRules are meant to be broken", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMost christians value the 2nd Amendment over the Bible anyways.", ">\n\nIf putting their supposed religious values against their safety blanket firearms was gonna work, it would have already. Unfortunately religion gets real adaptable when it loses the value test against other beleifs.", ">\n\nYeah, because telling them again and again once per week didn't do it, but this time it will work.", ">\n\nOBEY", ">\n\nBasically, it's just saying, \"Please don't shoot people.\" In such a nonchalant way that it's like asking your friend to move their car.", ">\n\nWell if there's one thing that can stop people killing others it's the bibble. No one could ever do anything bad or try to justify their horrible actions if they were religious.", ">\n\nI never thought about killing no one until I saw a sign telling me I couldn't. Don't tell me what to do.", ">\n\nWhat if they just made murder illegal?", ">\n\n\"Fine, I guess I won't do it \"\n-John Mulaney", ">\n\nIf you live in DC, this is your sign to kill somebody with one of these signs", ">\n\nI’m living in a Political South Park episode", ">\n\nReminds me of this Anti-murder PSA from That Mitchell and Webb Look", ">\n\nThey'll help less than these anti bullying posters in schools" ]

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[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless.", ">\n\nGet a Roku tv it literally never has problems and it's simple it doesn't have all the weird useless features that a lot of other smart tvs have. Everything is easily found \nI hope you know Netflix isn't just on smart tvs I don't know why you put that in here literally adds nothing to your point." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless.", ">\n\nGet a Roku tv it literally never has problems and it's simple it doesn't have all the weird useless features that a lot of other smart tvs have. Everything is easily found \nI hope you know Netflix isn't just on smart tvs I don't know why you put that in here literally adds nothing to your point.", ">\n\nSome people know what to look for when purchasing a TV and some people think they are getting an absolute top TV at a bargain price when they fight over them at Walmart/Asda black Fridays." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless.", ">\n\nGet a Roku tv it literally never has problems and it's simple it doesn't have all the weird useless features that a lot of other smart tvs have. Everything is easily found \nI hope you know Netflix isn't just on smart tvs I don't know why you put that in here literally adds nothing to your point.", ">\n\nSome people know what to look for when purchasing a TV and some people think they are getting an absolute top TV at a bargain price when they fight over them at Walmart/Asda black Fridays.", ">\n\nI dont know what you are on about. Samsung smart tvs can even be used by grandparents." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless.", ">\n\nGet a Roku tv it literally never has problems and it's simple it doesn't have all the weird useless features that a lot of other smart tvs have. Everything is easily found \nI hope you know Netflix isn't just on smart tvs I don't know why you put that in here literally adds nothing to your point.", ">\n\nSome people know what to look for when purchasing a TV and some people think they are getting an absolute top TV at a bargain price when they fight over them at Walmart/Asda black Fridays.", ">\n\nI dont know what you are on about. Samsung smart tvs can even be used by grandparents.", ">\n\nSamsung smart tvs are the most annoying buggy things to deal with. I can't even use them right. And I'm 20. They have good phones it doesn't mean their smart TV's are good though" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless.", ">\n\nGet a Roku tv it literally never has problems and it's simple it doesn't have all the weird useless features that a lot of other smart tvs have. Everything is easily found \nI hope you know Netflix isn't just on smart tvs I don't know why you put that in here literally adds nothing to your point.", ">\n\nSome people know what to look for when purchasing a TV and some people think they are getting an absolute top TV at a bargain price when they fight over them at Walmart/Asda black Fridays.", ">\n\nI dont know what you are on about. Samsung smart tvs can even be used by grandparents.", ">\n\nSamsung smart tvs are the most annoying buggy things to deal with. I can't even use them right. And I'm 20. They have good phones it doesn't mean their smart TV's are good though", ">\n\nHave 2 Samsung tvs and use different smartphones to control and stream to them and they work excellent." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless.", ">\n\nGet a Roku tv it literally never has problems and it's simple it doesn't have all the weird useless features that a lot of other smart tvs have. Everything is easily found \nI hope you know Netflix isn't just on smart tvs I don't know why you put that in here literally adds nothing to your point.", ">\n\nSome people know what to look for when purchasing a TV and some people think they are getting an absolute top TV at a bargain price when they fight over them at Walmart/Asda black Fridays.", ">\n\nI dont know what you are on about. Samsung smart tvs can even be used by grandparents.", ">\n\nSamsung smart tvs are the most annoying buggy things to deal with. I can't even use them right. And I'm 20. They have good phones it doesn't mean their smart TV's are good though", ">\n\nHave 2 Samsung tvs and use different smartphones to control and stream to them and they work excellent.", ">\n\nYes I usually never end up using the features of smart products because it's just more Hassel . Like yeah it's cool and \"futuristic\", but by the love of God it's supposed to be smart not worse." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless.", ">\n\nGet a Roku tv it literally never has problems and it's simple it doesn't have all the weird useless features that a lot of other smart tvs have. Everything is easily found \nI hope you know Netflix isn't just on smart tvs I don't know why you put that in here literally adds nothing to your point.", ">\n\nSome people know what to look for when purchasing a TV and some people think they are getting an absolute top TV at a bargain price when they fight over them at Walmart/Asda black Fridays.", ">\n\nI dont know what you are on about. Samsung smart tvs can even be used by grandparents.", ">\n\nSamsung smart tvs are the most annoying buggy things to deal with. I can't even use them right. And I'm 20. They have good phones it doesn't mean their smart TV's are good though", ">\n\nHave 2 Samsung tvs and use different smartphones to control and stream to them and they work excellent.", ">\n\nYes I usually never end up using the features of smart products because it's just more Hassel . Like yeah it's cool and \"futuristic\", but by the love of God it's supposed to be smart not worse.", ">\n\nPretty maddening, that keyboard is frustrating. I only use streaming as an extra, but don't think I could stand using nothing but streaming." ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless.", ">\n\nGet a Roku tv it literally never has problems and it's simple it doesn't have all the weird useless features that a lot of other smart tvs have. Everything is easily found \nI hope you know Netflix isn't just on smart tvs I don't know why you put that in here literally adds nothing to your point.", ">\n\nSome people know what to look for when purchasing a TV and some people think they are getting an absolute top TV at a bargain price when they fight over them at Walmart/Asda black Fridays.", ">\n\nI dont know what you are on about. Samsung smart tvs can even be used by grandparents.", ">\n\nSamsung smart tvs are the most annoying buggy things to deal with. I can't even use them right. And I'm 20. They have good phones it doesn't mean their smart TV's are good though", ">\n\nHave 2 Samsung tvs and use different smartphones to control and stream to them and they work excellent.", ">\n\nYes I usually never end up using the features of smart products because it's just more Hassel . Like yeah it's cool and \"futuristic\", but by the love of God it's supposed to be smart not worse.", ">\n\nPretty maddening, that keyboard is frustrating. I only use streaming as an extra, but don't think I could stand using nothing but streaming.", ">\n\nAmazon firestick is da wae" ]

[ "I'm with you on alphabetical keyboards. Those drive me insane.", ">\n\nThe vizio keyboard is worse\nFor those that don't know, it's just the entire alphabet on a single line.", ">\n\nSmart TVs are ready, yours is just crap.", ">\n\ntv suggestions?", ">\n\nWait till Sony announces their lineup for this year, they weren't there at CES", ">\n\nHave had my an LG c1 for almost a year now, not had any problems. I even use my phone as the remote a lot because it makes typing eaiser.\nMost the shitty smart TVs are the cheap ones that try to do everything, but do nothing well. You're better off buying a cheaper TV with a firestick or somet than a cheap smart TV.", ">\n\nExactly. To save on costs, making it “cheap,” tv manufacturers use piss poor components. They’re using extremely outdated processors as well as other computing hardware that simply can’t keep up. On top of that, many people don’t update their tv’s OS, which can make a cheaply built tv so much worse. Then there’s people who rely exclusively off of wifi instead of using a direct cabled connection to their router.", ">\n\nWhy not spend $20 on a separate streaming device you can use with any TV and not spend the extra $xxx on the TV when all you really need is a decent screen?", ">\n\nAbsolutely an option and I think it’s exactly what most people are going/hoping for when buying a cheaper model. Unfortunately, the streaming services are all processed by the tv’s internal computer, so it can cause a bottleneck if the tv is made from extremely slow, outdated parts. Think of it like a regular computer. You can’t just plug your monitor into the internet and stream. The streaming service passes into your computer via the internet, your computer processes it, then outputs it to your monitor. A smart tv is just a monitor with the computer part integrated.\nDon’t get me wrong. I’m not criticizing anyone for buying a less expensive tv. I’m certainly not made of money. If anything, I’m criticizing certain tv manufacturers who go too far with cost cutting measures and use unreliable components giving certain consumers a very poor tv experience. It’s a game of balance. If your screen looks decent and handles apps fine, you’ve found that balance that works for you and that’s great.", ">\n\nlol Samsungs are the worst for it. Their latest UI is a fucking mess. Where as before you could flip easily between sources, now you have to navigate full screen pages to get where you want. The hub is now split into sections, so instead of just pushing left or right to get to what device you want, you now have to navigate multiple hubs. Entertainment hubs for you Apple TV and gaming hub for your playstation. Its inconvenient as fuck.\nOh, and there's fucking ads everywhere.", ">\n\nWhat ads?", ">\n\nso much technology isnt ready and sometimes i think to myself \"damn i wonder how this [thing] will go like in 20 years\"", ">\n\nGrampa, didn't know you were on Reddit.", ">\n\nThis was accurate like 5 years ago but is no longer the case. Maybe you just have a shitty one", ">\n\nI have smart TVs older than that and they run just fine without any of these issues.", ">\n\nI’ve had a smart tv for a decade now.\nNever been laggy, the interface is very user-friendly (not confusing), and you only have to use the keyboard initially to connect to WiFi / log in to streaming accounts. You don’t have to regularly use the on-screen keyboard.\nIt sounds like you just don’t know how to use your tv.", ">\n\nI've used a lot of TVs and there are definitely laggy and buggy implementations of apps on smart TVs.", ">\n\nThere was one time I thought my tv was being laggy, and it was pissing me the fuck off because it would take forever just to get to select an option…\nTurns out the batteries in my remote were dying.", ">\n\nI remember an LG tv I had one time, and the issue with the Netflix app was the audio would get out of sync. It'd only go back to normal if you rebooted the TV. It was pretty absurd.", ">\n\nBuilt in apps on smart TVs are routinely bad from my experience, compared to having a third party device.(as the 'smart' brain) I've tested/set up many many smart TVs + used all kinds of third party devices, and I've found the thing people like best is ditching those apps on the TV and getting an Apple TV.", ">\n\nMy Bravia has fucking shit smart apps. Netflix constantly crashed and they stopped updating it. Never got Disney+ on it. We switched to Rokus. But that being said I disagree with OP. The tech is fine and ready, just that OP jas a bad smart tv. So do I.", ">\n\nNah just buy a better one. My 200 dollar Vizio tv works just like I should have expected. Poorly. I always get angry at it then remember I got what I paid for then reboot it for the hundredth time and tell it I’m sorry for hitting it and it won’t happen again", ">\n\nI was thinking hes probably talking about owning a vizio. He probably lives in some small city or rural or exurban or something and the big box, especially walmart shit, is the only shit around.", ">\n\nI mean you can probably get a decent one from Walmart. I got mine from Best Buy", ">\n\nI think you need to go outside and embrace nature my man. If TVs are adding to your desire for your own personal demise I think you need a hug and a cookie.", ">\n\nThink you just bought a bad tv lol, mine is not laggy, interface is pretty straight forward, and doesn't have a \"abc\" keyboard lol", ">\n\nI like my roku", ">\n\n+1 for Roku, very easy to use.", ">\n\n+2 We have one on every tv in the house.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV.", ">\n\nI just got a brand new LG about 6 months ago. It connects to my echo so I just do everything with my voice. What I can't do with that I use voice control with the remote. Add that there's an app to use for everything else with typing and there is no issue. You just need a better tv", ">\n\nSmart just means it's wifi enabled in almost everything", ">\n\nI have 2 samsungs which are awesome and 2 blaupunkt that run google tv which is also awsome", ">\n\nJust because your toaster has an LCD screen doesn't mean it's a smart TV", ">\n\nI mean if you bought the $159 TCL TV from Best Buy on Black Friday the chances are that it's pretty shitty.", ">\n\nTcl's use a Roku interface. They're one of the most user friendly platforms on the market. He could just have bad internet. I know my in-laws have a Samsung Smart TV. A few years ago we stopped updating the smart features on it. We have to buy them a Roku device.", ">\n\nMy first \"smart\" TV wasn't a Roku, upgraded a couple years ago and I'm never going back. It's just so easy to use.", ">\n\nMy first tv was back in 2003 or 2004. I hooked up a computer to a crt tv. Then ran a phone cord from the computer to the phone jack. Lol", ">\n\nThose were the good old days", ">\n\nThere are a plethora of smart TVs that are much better than what you have described. Perhaps you should take a look at other smart TV products. To generalize that smart TV technology is “not ready” on the basis of having a terrible experience with one product, is silly.", ">\n\nGet an Apple TV. Way snappier. Also just a solid all round experience on the Apple TV, and if you are in the Apple ecosystem already it’s for sure worth it", ">\n\nSamsung user located", ">\n\nFirst world problems", ">\n\nI actually saw a youtube short about this a few days ago. I have no way of knowing its true, but according to some random guy on the internet its because smart tv companies cheap out on processors to get more competitive prices, and bank on most people just caring about picture quality anyways", ">\n\nManufacturers can cheap out on powerful processors to make their TV's cheaper, it's one of those things that's hard to market to normal people and can't easily be represented in a spec sheet. I personally wouldn't worry about a TV being smart, it reminds me of a lot of cable boxes I've used, built by the lowest bidder type shit. If the interface works well and is snappy, then great. If it isn't, I'll use a Chromecast or a PC and bypass the interface altogether.", ">\n\nI have never used the interface on mine because we run everything through the XBox and I wish the interface wasn't there, all it does is try to push ads. But there's no need to be that offended by it, if a bad TV interface adversely affects your will to live you should probably go outside or something", ">\n\nGet a PlayStation, or if you are on the cheap a Firestick. The firestick is simple easy and intuitive. \nOf course a PlayStation is excellent. Really great for streaming plus games.", ">\n\nI'm not sure what smart tv's you're using but I've never had issues. Hell, most of them just have big ole \"Netflix\" Hulu\" etc buttons on them so you don't even have to navigate a menu. Slow and laggy sounds more like your internet connection.", ">\n\nMy element tv is amazing and my 43 inch was on sale at target for like $150. Never had any issues", ">\n\nUnless it’s samsung and a 2020 or newer, nuh duh.", ">\n\nI would second, third, and forth it Firestick or Roku box they are both excellent, as for slow and laggy turn of all you image processing.", ">\n\nMake and model # of TV?", ">\n\nDon't do it mate, the standards of consumer TVs might look bleak but better days are around the corner. I lost a good friend to the poor quality 4k upscaling on his Sony Bravia.", ">\n\nThat’s with everything that’s why I have a keypad for my Xbox controller lol it’s not exclusive to smart tvs lol", ">\n\nProfit margins on low-mid tier TVs are extremely low, so manufacturers often cheap out on hardware and software. Usually, you're better off just buying a chromecast/apple TV stick.", ">\n\nHonestly, Fuck smart TVs.\nMy partner and I have a PC set up in the living room and use the TV as a glorified display. \nNo ads on youtube, all the extra plugins and settings we want from a browser, all the shows we want on the streaming services we like, and any and all gaming configurations easily. No weird remote interface, its keyboard and mouse.", ">\n\nI think a few years ago, they were not ready. But within the last few years, it has improved by leaps and bounds. Maybe it is time to retire yours", ">\n\nGoogle Chromecasts are truly peak smart TV. You just select anything you want to watch on a device of your choice and it starts playing on your TV. No shitty menus, no unsupported Apps (except apple TV+) and it's a portable stick, you can use anywhere.", ">\n\nnah, the tech itself is fine. It's just UX designers who suck at their jobs.", ">\n\nGet a Sony, they’re the only ones who got it right.", ">\n\nMost smart tv's are made with only the software in mind, and so they cheap out on the processor which is the source of the lagginess.\nSo the tech is ready, but you just bought the wrong one", ">\n\nSame with the embedded software in pretty much any car, including Mercedes'. They look straight out of 2005 with all the shades/gloss/emboss and run at like 15 fps in reverse.", ">\n\nYour shit is trash g lmfao", ">\n\nSome brands have a much better UI than others.", ">\n\nI had a smart tv that started lagging (in menus/inputs) and reset itself randomly after just a few updates. It used some version of Android. The TV itself wasn’t that bad since it had nice picture settings but the smart features completely ruined it. It ended up dying because of a firmware update recently lol.\nI don’t even use Netflix, my housemates do. And otherwise Internet on a TV is useless.", ">\n\nGet a Roku tv it literally never has problems and it's simple it doesn't have all the weird useless features that a lot of other smart tvs have. Everything is easily found \nI hope you know Netflix isn't just on smart tvs I don't know why you put that in here literally adds nothing to your point.", ">\n\nSome people know what to look for when purchasing a TV and some people think they are getting an absolute top TV at a bargain price when they fight over them at Walmart/Asda black Fridays.", ">\n\nI dont know what you are on about. Samsung smart tvs can even be used by grandparents.", ">\n\nSamsung smart tvs are the most annoying buggy things to deal with. I can't even use them right. And I'm 20. They have good phones it doesn't mean their smart TV's are good though", ">\n\nHave 2 Samsung tvs and use different smartphones to control and stream to them and they work excellent.", ">\n\nYes I usually never end up using the features of smart products because it's just more Hassel . Like yeah it's cool and \"futuristic\", but by the love of God it's supposed to be smart not worse.", ">\n\nPretty maddening, that keyboard is frustrating. I only use streaming as an extra, but don't think I could stand using nothing but streaming.", ">\n\nAmazon firestick is da wae", ">\n\nPeople still use TVs?" ]