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[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what" ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one.", ">\n\nI argue a majority of such surveys DO NOT have it at number one, it is not a popular opinion that it is best. Top few doesn't equate.\nYou are confusing \"is a very popular and good FF\" with \"more popular than not that players will say it is better than all other FFs\". I say very few will say the latter, even fewer who have played many of the older ones. The popular opinions are that 7 is best, or 14." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one.", ">\n\nI argue a majority of such surveys DO NOT have it at number one, it is not a popular opinion that it is best. Top few doesn't equate.\nYou are confusing \"is a very popular and good FF\" with \"more popular than not that players will say it is better than all other FFs\". I say very few will say the latter, even fewer who have played many of the older ones. The popular opinions are that 7 is best, or 14.", ">\n\nWith that metric all \"Y is the best FF\" opinions are \"unpopular\" because there are probably only more people thinking otherwise." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one.", ">\n\nI argue a majority of such surveys DO NOT have it at number one, it is not a popular opinion that it is best. Top few doesn't equate.\nYou are confusing \"is a very popular and good FF\" with \"more popular than not that players will say it is better than all other FFs\". I say very few will say the latter, even fewer who have played many of the older ones. The popular opinions are that 7 is best, or 14.", ">\n\nWith that metric all \"Y is the best FF\" opinions are \"unpopular\" because there are probably only more people thinking otherwise.", ">\n\nI liked 9 better." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one.", ">\n\nI argue a majority of such surveys DO NOT have it at number one, it is not a popular opinion that it is best. Top few doesn't equate.\nYou are confusing \"is a very popular and good FF\" with \"more popular than not that players will say it is better than all other FFs\". I say very few will say the latter, even fewer who have played many of the older ones. The popular opinions are that 7 is best, or 14.", ">\n\nWith that metric all \"Y is the best FF\" opinions are \"unpopular\" because there are probably only more people thinking otherwise.", ">\n\nI liked 9 better.", ">\n\nThat's my point. That's why this is unpopular." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one.", ">\n\nI argue a majority of such surveys DO NOT have it at number one, it is not a popular opinion that it is best. Top few doesn't equate.\nYou are confusing \"is a very popular and good FF\" with \"more popular than not that players will say it is better than all other FFs\". I say very few will say the latter, even fewer who have played many of the older ones. The popular opinions are that 7 is best, or 14.", ">\n\nWith that metric all \"Y is the best FF\" opinions are \"unpopular\" because there are probably only more people thinking otherwise.", ">\n\nI liked 9 better.", ">\n\nThat's my point. That's why this is unpopular.", ">\n\nIt's not as if this is one of the more unpopular games. this is up there with the best of them. Not exactly the spieciest take like if you'd Said XIII or II was the best." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one.", ">\n\nI argue a majority of such surveys DO NOT have it at number one, it is not a popular opinion that it is best. Top few doesn't equate.\nYou are confusing \"is a very popular and good FF\" with \"more popular than not that players will say it is better than all other FFs\". I say very few will say the latter, even fewer who have played many of the older ones. The popular opinions are that 7 is best, or 14.", ">\n\nWith that metric all \"Y is the best FF\" opinions are \"unpopular\" because there are probably only more people thinking otherwise.", ">\n\nI liked 9 better.", ">\n\nThat's my point. That's why this is unpopular.", ">\n\nIt's not as if this is one of the more unpopular games. this is up there with the best of them. Not exactly the spieciest take like if you'd Said XIII or II was the best.", ">\n\nFFXII FOREVER" ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one.", ">\n\nI argue a majority of such surveys DO NOT have it at number one, it is not a popular opinion that it is best. Top few doesn't equate.\nYou are confusing \"is a very popular and good FF\" with \"more popular than not that players will say it is better than all other FFs\". I say very few will say the latter, even fewer who have played many of the older ones. The popular opinions are that 7 is best, or 14.", ">\n\nWith that metric all \"Y is the best FF\" opinions are \"unpopular\" because there are probably only more people thinking otherwise.", ">\n\nI liked 9 better.", ">\n\nThat's my point. That's why this is unpopular.", ">\n\nIt's not as if this is one of the more unpopular games. this is up there with the best of them. Not exactly the spieciest take like if you'd Said XIII or II was the best.", ">\n\nFFXII FOREVER", ">\n\nFrom the ones I've played, I agree.\nMan I want some Indie game dev to steal FFX's combat system because fuck is it good." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one.", ">\n\nI argue a majority of such surveys DO NOT have it at number one, it is not a popular opinion that it is best. Top few doesn't equate.\nYou are confusing \"is a very popular and good FF\" with \"more popular than not that players will say it is better than all other FFs\". I say very few will say the latter, even fewer who have played many of the older ones. The popular opinions are that 7 is best, or 14.", ">\n\nWith that metric all \"Y is the best FF\" opinions are \"unpopular\" because there are probably only more people thinking otherwise.", ">\n\nI liked 9 better.", ">\n\nThat's my point. That's why this is unpopular.", ">\n\nIt's not as if this is one of the more unpopular games. this is up there with the best of them. Not exactly the spieciest take like if you'd Said XIII or II was the best.", ">\n\nFFXII FOREVER", ">\n\nFrom the ones I've played, I agree.\nMan I want some Indie game dev to steal FFX's combat system because fuck is it good.", ">\n\nNot really that uncommon. I feel like fans are generally split between 6, 7, and 10 being the best." ]

[ "I was drunk and read the title as \"FTX is the best financial fantasy game\" and was like what", ">\n\nI'm partial to Final Fantasy VI personally.", ">\n\nNot at all, its has the most basic combat system in rpgs. Characters are annoying. Story is all over the place, and those final plot twist are really bad. And that voice acting aged like milk. \nThe world building is alright. The only real standout aspect of the game is the music/soundtrack. Nobuo Uematsu outdid himself. Everything else is either basic or just plain alright.", ">\n\nI don't think this is unpopular. It's routinely rated in the top 3 FFs in surveys I've seen and I've seen some that put it at #1.", ">\n\nIt's a popular game, but I think it is more often than not put below other FF games.", ">\n\nI think you'd be hard pressed to find a poll where it's not in the top 5 FF games.", ">\n\nThat's not what my opinion is.", ">\n\nIn a franchise as large as FF, any game that consistently makes it to the top 5 or higher is there because a lot of people think it's the best. It may not be the largest held opinion, but it's still a popular one.", ">\n\nI argue a majority of such surveys DO NOT have it at number one, it is not a popular opinion that it is best. Top few doesn't equate.\nYou are confusing \"is a very popular and good FF\" with \"more popular than not that players will say it is better than all other FFs\". I say very few will say the latter, even fewer who have played many of the older ones. The popular opinions are that 7 is best, or 14.", ">\n\nWith that metric all \"Y is the best FF\" opinions are \"unpopular\" because there are probably only more people thinking otherwise.", ">\n\nI liked 9 better.", ">\n\nThat's my point. That's why this is unpopular.", ">\n\nIt's not as if this is one of the more unpopular games. this is up there with the best of them. Not exactly the spieciest take like if you'd Said XIII or II was the best.", ">\n\nFFXII FOREVER", ">\n\nFrom the ones I've played, I agree.\nMan I want some Indie game dev to steal FFX's combat system because fuck is it good.", ">\n\nNot really that uncommon. I feel like fans are generally split between 6, 7, and 10 being the best.", ">\n\n9 was my favorite for sure." ]

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[ "Remember when Donnie Jon went to that international conference and pushed global leaders out of the way so he could stand in front? Or when he went to Helsinki and looked like a cowering dog next to Putin? So nice we don't have to deal with that fucking clown anymore." ]

[ "Remember when Donnie Jon went to that international conference and pushed global leaders out of the way so he could stand in front? Or when he went to Helsinki and looked like a cowering dog next to Putin? So nice we don't have to deal with that fucking clown anymore.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 51%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nU.S. President Joe Biden will be visiting Canada in March, his first trip to this country since becoming president.\nBack in 2020 on the heels of their election, MPs unanimously agreed to invite Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris to visit Canada as soon as the COVID-19 pandemic has gotten under control in both countries.\nFormer U.S. President Donald Trump did not travel to Canada during his time in the White House, marking a departure from a customary practice that newly-elected U.S. presidents make a visit north early in their term.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Biden^#1 President^#2 U.S.^#3 Canada^#4 address^#5" ]

[ "Remember when Donnie Jon went to that international conference and pushed global leaders out of the way so he could stand in front? Or when he went to Helsinki and looked like a cowering dog next to Putin? So nice we don't have to deal with that fucking clown anymore.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 51%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nU.S. President Joe Biden will be visiting Canada in March, his first trip to this country since becoming president.\nBack in 2020 on the heels of their election, MPs unanimously agreed to invite Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris to visit Canada as soon as the COVID-19 pandemic has gotten under control in both countries.\nFormer U.S. President Donald Trump did not travel to Canada during his time in the White House, marking a departure from a customary practice that newly-elected U.S. presidents make a visit north early in their term.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Biden^#1 President^#2 U.S.^#3 Canada^#4 address^#5", ">\n\n\"You guys have any of that delicious cheese soup like Epcot?\"" ]

[ "Remember when Donnie Jon went to that international conference and pushed global leaders out of the way so he could stand in front? Or when he went to Helsinki and looked like a cowering dog next to Putin? So nice we don't have to deal with that fucking clown anymore.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 51%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nU.S. President Joe Biden will be visiting Canada in March, his first trip to this country since becoming president.\nBack in 2020 on the heels of their election, MPs unanimously agreed to invite Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris to visit Canada as soon as the COVID-19 pandemic has gotten under control in both countries.\nFormer U.S. President Donald Trump did not travel to Canada during his time in the White House, marking a departure from a customary practice that newly-elected U.S. presidents make a visit north early in their term.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Biden^#1 President^#2 U.S.^#3 Canada^#4 address^#5", ">\n\n\"You guys have any of that delicious cheese soup like Epcot?\"", ">\n\nMade it this Xmas. Halved the flour and made every step 15min." ]

[ "Remember when Donnie Jon went to that international conference and pushed global leaders out of the way so he could stand in front? Or when he went to Helsinki and looked like a cowering dog next to Putin? So nice we don't have to deal with that fucking clown anymore.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 51%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nU.S. President Joe Biden will be visiting Canada in March, his first trip to this country since becoming president.\nBack in 2020 on the heels of their election, MPs unanimously agreed to invite Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris to visit Canada as soon as the COVID-19 pandemic has gotten under control in both countries.\nFormer U.S. President Donald Trump did not travel to Canada during his time in the White House, marking a departure from a customary practice that newly-elected U.S. presidents make a visit north early in their term.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Biden^#1 President^#2 U.S.^#3 Canada^#4 address^#5", ">\n\n\"You guys have any of that delicious cheese soup like Epcot?\"", ">\n\nMade it this Xmas. Halved the flour and made every step 15min.", ">\n\nGood stuff bud! Giv'er Uncle Joe!" ]

[ "Remember when Donnie Jon went to that international conference and pushed global leaders out of the way so he could stand in front? Or when he went to Helsinki and looked like a cowering dog next to Putin? So nice we don't have to deal with that fucking clown anymore.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 51%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nU.S. President Joe Biden will be visiting Canada in March, his first trip to this country since becoming president.\nBack in 2020 on the heels of their election, MPs unanimously agreed to invite Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris to visit Canada as soon as the COVID-19 pandemic has gotten under control in both countries.\nFormer U.S. President Donald Trump did not travel to Canada during his time in the White House, marking a departure from a customary practice that newly-elected U.S. presidents make a visit north early in their term.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Biden^#1 President^#2 U.S.^#3 Canada^#4 address^#5", ">\n\n\"You guys have any of that delicious cheese soup like Epcot?\"", ">\n\nMade it this Xmas. Halved the flour and made every step 15min.", ">\n\nGood stuff bud! Giv'er Uncle Joe!", ">\n\nOh good. The crazy truckers are going to have a grand time." ]

[ "Remember when Donnie Jon went to that international conference and pushed global leaders out of the way so he could stand in front? Or when he went to Helsinki and looked like a cowering dog next to Putin? So nice we don't have to deal with that fucking clown anymore.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 51%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nU.S. President Joe Biden will be visiting Canada in March, his first trip to this country since becoming president.\nBack in 2020 on the heels of their election, MPs unanimously agreed to invite Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris to visit Canada as soon as the COVID-19 pandemic has gotten under control in both countries.\nFormer U.S. President Donald Trump did not travel to Canada during his time in the White House, marking a departure from a customary practice that newly-elected U.S. presidents make a visit north early in their term.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Biden^#1 President^#2 U.S.^#3 Canada^#4 address^#5", ">\n\n\"You guys have any of that delicious cheese soup like Epcot?\"", ">\n\nMade it this Xmas. Halved the flour and made every step 15min.", ">\n\nGood stuff bud! Giv'er Uncle Joe!", ">\n\nOh good. The crazy truckers are going to have a grand time.", ">\n\nThis guy literally spent something like 45% of the year on vacation days and didn't work." ]

[ "Remember when Donnie Jon went to that international conference and pushed global leaders out of the way so he could stand in front? Or when he went to Helsinki and looked like a cowering dog next to Putin? So nice we don't have to deal with that fucking clown anymore.", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 51%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nU.S. President Joe Biden will be visiting Canada in March, his first trip to this country since becoming president.\nBack in 2020 on the heels of their election, MPs unanimously agreed to invite Biden and Vice-President Kamala Harris to visit Canada as soon as the COVID-19 pandemic has gotten under control in both countries.\nFormer U.S. President Donald Trump did not travel to Canada during his time in the White House, marking a departure from a customary practice that newly-elected U.S. presidents make a visit north early in their term.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Biden^#1 President^#2 U.S.^#3 Canada^#4 address^#5", ">\n\n\"You guys have any of that delicious cheese soup like Epcot?\"", ">\n\nMade it this Xmas. Halved the flour and made every step 15min.", ">\n\nGood stuff bud! Giv'er Uncle Joe!", ">\n\nOh good. The crazy truckers are going to have a grand time.", ">\n\nThis guy literally spent something like 45% of the year on vacation days and didn't work.", ">\n\nAs huge as Nixon visiting China" ]

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[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware" ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock" ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"" ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?" ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…" ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?" ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach..." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach...", ">\n\nRemember Heather Heyer, murdered by the Alt-right and neo nazi's. Rest in power Heather." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach...", ">\n\nRemember Heather Heyer, murdered by the Alt-right and neo nazi's. Rest in power Heather.", ">\n\nThis headline is so misleading it’s bordering on disinformation. Virginia law caps punitive damages at $350,000 - the judge had no choice and this law was on the books before this event took place." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach...", ">\n\nRemember Heather Heyer, murdered by the Alt-right and neo nazi's. Rest in power Heather.", ">\n\nThis headline is so misleading it’s bordering on disinformation. Virginia law caps punitive damages at $350,000 - the judge had no choice and this law was on the books before this event took place.", ">\n\nDefinitely a misleading headline" ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach...", ">\n\nRemember Heather Heyer, murdered by the Alt-right and neo nazi's. Rest in power Heather.", ">\n\nThis headline is so misleading it’s bordering on disinformation. Virginia law caps punitive damages at $350,000 - the judge had no choice and this law was on the books before this event took place.", ">\n\nDefinitely a misleading headline", ">\n\nI hope so too but i highly doubt it. The way this went down and how long the court system knew they wouldn't be charged the full amount tells me odds are good they won't have to pay anything." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach...", ">\n\nRemember Heather Heyer, murdered by the Alt-right and neo nazi's. Rest in power Heather.", ">\n\nThis headline is so misleading it’s bordering on disinformation. Virginia law caps punitive damages at $350,000 - the judge had no choice and this law was on the books before this event took place.", ">\n\nDefinitely a misleading headline", ">\n\nI hope so too but i highly doubt it. The way this went down and how long the court system knew they wouldn't be charged the full amount tells me odds are good they won't have to pay anything.", ">\n\nIntentionally misleading title." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach...", ">\n\nRemember Heather Heyer, murdered by the Alt-right and neo nazi's. Rest in power Heather.", ">\n\nThis headline is so misleading it’s bordering on disinformation. Virginia law caps punitive damages at $350,000 - the judge had no choice and this law was on the books before this event took place.", ">\n\nDefinitely a misleading headline", ">\n\nI hope so too but i highly doubt it. The way this went down and how long the court system knew they wouldn't be charged the full amount tells me odds are good they won't have to pay anything.", ">\n\nIntentionally misleading title.", ">\n\nMaybe this judge would drop my mortgage to $10 a month." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach...", ">\n\nRemember Heather Heyer, murdered by the Alt-right and neo nazi's. Rest in power Heather.", ">\n\nThis headline is so misleading it’s bordering on disinformation. Virginia law caps punitive damages at $350,000 - the judge had no choice and this law was on the books before this event took place.", ">\n\nDefinitely a misleading headline", ">\n\nI hope so too but i highly doubt it. The way this went down and how long the court system knew they wouldn't be charged the full amount tells me odds are good they won't have to pay anything.", ">\n\nIntentionally misleading title.", ">\n\nMaybe this judge would drop my mortgage to $10 a month.", ">\n\nLaw is a farce - a tool of the wicked." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach...", ">\n\nRemember Heather Heyer, murdered by the Alt-right and neo nazi's. Rest in power Heather.", ">\n\nThis headline is so misleading it’s bordering on disinformation. Virginia law caps punitive damages at $350,000 - the judge had no choice and this law was on the books before this event took place.", ">\n\nDefinitely a misleading headline", ">\n\nI hope so too but i highly doubt it. The way this went down and how long the court system knew they wouldn't be charged the full amount tells me odds are good they won't have to pay anything.", ">\n\nIntentionally misleading title.", ">\n\nMaybe this judge would drop my mortgage to $10 a month.", ">\n\nLaw is a farce - a tool of the wicked.", ">\n\nWhy can't they at least use each individual separately at the $350,000 cap? At least that would hurt them more." ]

[ "Virginia state law caps punitive damages to a maximum $350,000, so this was automatic. The judge wasn't making any decisions about the merits of the case.", ">\n\nVirginia state law needs to be changed.", ">\n\nThey did change it, they changed it to support businesses.", ">\n\n\nWhile the court recognized “the jury verdict findings of Defendants’ liability,” and upheld the compensatory damages award, the order said it would reduce the punitive damages to $350,000, “as compelled by the Virginia statutory cap on punitive damages.”\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. \n\nHeadline is a bit inflammatory/clickbait-y for leaving out an important detail, though I wish they didn't have this limit so the group would have to pay the full $24 million.", ">\n\nThank Republicans for that. \"Tort reform\" means you can't be properly compensated for the damages you suffered and that offenders get a slap on the wrist and learn nothing. These judgements become nothing more than the cost of doing business.", ">\n\nSame issue in Texas, doctors have a malpractice cap so they can only pay a certain amount max no matter how badly they fuck up. Doctors who cannot practice in other states due to lack of malpractice insurance or too expensive malpractice insurance can practice in Texas. So Texans, beware", ">\n\nFun Fact - The British doctor who started the \"vaccines cause autism,\" thing was struck off in the UK for being a shit doctor, but then moved to Texas!\nWelcomed with open arms.", ">\n\nI’d add it to the list of mistakes my state has made over the years, but for the past decade or two ive been running out of paper to write on faster than i can restock", ">\n\n\"Among the 23 defendants was James Alex Fields, Jr., who sped his car through a group of counter protestors at the rally, injuring dozens and killing 32-year old Heather Heyer. Half of the damages awarded by the jury were against Fields.\nSome of the most prominent figures of the alt-right — Jason Kessler, Matthew Heimbach, Richard Spencer and Christopher Cantwell — were also among the defendants.\"", ">\n\nThen what's the point of awarding so much if the jury is not privy to the limit?", ">\n\nBecause the jury does it's job and then the courts overturn the Jury's verdict essentially. \nIn theory the juries don't get told about the cap because they'd just move the damages over to compensatory damages instead of punitive. In reality it's just an end-run around wealthy people being truly damaged from punitive damages.", ">\n\nImagine a middle-class individual being fined $350,000. Now imagine a large corporation or a billionaire being fined the same amount. They found the sweet spot to punish normal people while letting the rich off the hook.", ">\n\nThat was literally the point of tort reform…", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap. Instead, in cases where a jury awards more than the $350,000 in punitive damages, the law requires judges to reduce the award to the maximum.\n\nPossibly the dumbest thing ever....\nLaw: Hey jury, you get to pick a punitive number...\nJury: Something over 350K\nLaw: Psych! Can't do that! Haha. \nWhy not just tell them the max amount upfront and save everyone's time and money?", ">\n\nso the initial headlines can read “So and So fined millions of dollars” and we all walk away feeling like justice was served when in reality it wasn’t.", ">\n\nAnyone who paid attention to the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard defamation trial knows all about this state law capping punitive damages.", ">\n\nHEATHER HEYER was her name.", ">\n\n\nA Virginia state law limits the total amount awarded for punitive damages to $350,000 per case, but the law does not allow the jury to be advised of the punitive damages cap\n\nis this as unusual as it seems? it seems kinda insane to me at face value that you could prevent a jury from fully understanding the outcome of the verdict they're going to reach...", ">\n\nRemember Heather Heyer, murdered by the Alt-right and neo nazi's. Rest in power Heather.", ">\n\nThis headline is so misleading it’s bordering on disinformation. Virginia law caps punitive damages at $350,000 - the judge had no choice and this law was on the books before this event took place.", ">\n\nDefinitely a misleading headline", ">\n\nI hope so too but i highly doubt it. The way this went down and how long the court system knew they wouldn't be charged the full amount tells me odds are good they won't have to pay anything.", ">\n\nIntentionally misleading title.", ">\n\nMaybe this judge would drop my mortgage to $10 a month.", ">\n\nLaw is a farce - a tool of the wicked.", ">\n\nWhy can't they at least use each individual separately at the $350,000 cap? At least that would hurt them more.", ">\n\nRemember, we only use the justice system for justice when it works. When it doesn't, its just called justice." ]

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[ "\"First\" new keyboard after 2 years of taking a break, somehow I got pulled back in!\nI've been using splits and the last 2 years I have been using a Dactyl (Corne Layout) and recently been wanting something less DIY and something more \"premium\" feel with full aluminium case and a heavy case! Sadly not possible to get such thing in a Dactyl Manuform, so decided to look at other options, settled on a Alice/Arisu layout and the Q10 just happen to caught my eye.\nSurprisingly the \"downgrade\" in ergonomics from a split to a Alice hasn't been too bad! Took me about a day re-adjusting myself to a non-columnar keyboard. I am loving the feel of a non-diy keyboard though much better feel and experience when typing on a non-3d printed case which has been my life for the last 4 years.\nPretty stock standard - got Yong Qui WOB and Durock T1s on it, feels pretty good for me already. Trying to not go back too deep into this rabbit hole again, just going to stay at the peripheral..." ]

[ "\"First\" new keyboard after 2 years of taking a break, somehow I got pulled back in!\nI've been using splits and the last 2 years I have been using a Dactyl (Corne Layout) and recently been wanting something less DIY and something more \"premium\" feel with full aluminium case and a heavy case! Sadly not possible to get such thing in a Dactyl Manuform, so decided to look at other options, settled on a Alice/Arisu layout and the Q10 just happen to caught my eye.\nSurprisingly the \"downgrade\" in ergonomics from a split to a Alice hasn't been too bad! Took me about a day re-adjusting myself to a non-columnar keyboard. I am loving the feel of a non-diy keyboard though much better feel and experience when typing on a non-3d printed case which has been my life for the last 4 years.\nPretty stock standard - got Yong Qui WOB and Durock T1s on it, feels pretty good for me already. Trying to not go back too deep into this rabbit hole again, just going to stay at the peripheral...", ">\n\nNice build! Welcome to the Q10 club!" ]

[ "\"First\" new keyboard after 2 years of taking a break, somehow I got pulled back in!\nI've been using splits and the last 2 years I have been using a Dactyl (Corne Layout) and recently been wanting something less DIY and something more \"premium\" feel with full aluminium case and a heavy case! Sadly not possible to get such thing in a Dactyl Manuform, so decided to look at other options, settled on a Alice/Arisu layout and the Q10 just happen to caught my eye.\nSurprisingly the \"downgrade\" in ergonomics from a split to a Alice hasn't been too bad! Took me about a day re-adjusting myself to a non-columnar keyboard. I am loving the feel of a non-diy keyboard though much better feel and experience when typing on a non-3d printed case which has been my life for the last 4 years.\nPretty stock standard - got Yong Qui WOB and Durock T1s on it, feels pretty good for me already. Trying to not go back too deep into this rabbit hole again, just going to stay at the peripheral...", ">\n\nNice build! Welcome to the Q10 club!", ">\n\nJust FYI keychron warranty service is super questionable. Having trouble with my Q3 and it's been super frustrating." ]

[ "\"First\" new keyboard after 2 years of taking a break, somehow I got pulled back in!\nI've been using splits and the last 2 years I have been using a Dactyl (Corne Layout) and recently been wanting something less DIY and something more \"premium\" feel with full aluminium case and a heavy case! Sadly not possible to get such thing in a Dactyl Manuform, so decided to look at other options, settled on a Alice/Arisu layout and the Q10 just happen to caught my eye.\nSurprisingly the \"downgrade\" in ergonomics from a split to a Alice hasn't been too bad! Took me about a day re-adjusting myself to a non-columnar keyboard. I am loving the feel of a non-diy keyboard though much better feel and experience when typing on a non-3d printed case which has been my life for the last 4 years.\nPretty stock standard - got Yong Qui WOB and Durock T1s on it, feels pretty good for me already. Trying to not go back too deep into this rabbit hole again, just going to stay at the peripheral...", ">\n\nNice build! Welcome to the Q10 club!", ">\n\nJust FYI keychron warranty service is super questionable. Having trouble with my Q3 and it's been super frustrating.", ">\n\nYes I have heard of that - hopefully nothing really goes wrong with it. \nWhat is the issue with yours?" ]

[ "\"First\" new keyboard after 2 years of taking a break, somehow I got pulled back in!\nI've been using splits and the last 2 years I have been using a Dactyl (Corne Layout) and recently been wanting something less DIY and something more \"premium\" feel with full aluminium case and a heavy case! Sadly not possible to get such thing in a Dactyl Manuform, so decided to look at other options, settled on a Alice/Arisu layout and the Q10 just happen to caught my eye.\nSurprisingly the \"downgrade\" in ergonomics from a split to a Alice hasn't been too bad! Took me about a day re-adjusting myself to a non-columnar keyboard. I am loving the feel of a non-diy keyboard though much better feel and experience when typing on a non-3d printed case which has been my life for the last 4 years.\nPretty stock standard - got Yong Qui WOB and Durock T1s on it, feels pretty good for me already. Trying to not go back too deep into this rabbit hole again, just going to stay at the peripheral...", ">\n\nNice build! Welcome to the Q10 club!", ">\n\nJust FYI keychron warranty service is super questionable. Having trouble with my Q3 and it's been super frustrating.", ">\n\nYes I have heard of that - hopefully nothing really goes wrong with it. \nWhat is the issue with yours?", ">\n\nKeys are repeating. It’s not isolated to any one key, randomly happening for different keys. It's getting noticeably bad now around the six-month mark." ]

[ "\"First\" new keyboard after 2 years of taking a break, somehow I got pulled back in!\nI've been using splits and the last 2 years I have been using a Dactyl (Corne Layout) and recently been wanting something less DIY and something more \"premium\" feel with full aluminium case and a heavy case! Sadly not possible to get such thing in a Dactyl Manuform, so decided to look at other options, settled on a Alice/Arisu layout and the Q10 just happen to caught my eye.\nSurprisingly the \"downgrade\" in ergonomics from a split to a Alice hasn't been too bad! Took me about a day re-adjusting myself to a non-columnar keyboard. I am loving the feel of a non-diy keyboard though much better feel and experience when typing on a non-3d printed case which has been my life for the last 4 years.\nPretty stock standard - got Yong Qui WOB and Durock T1s on it, feels pretty good for me already. Trying to not go back too deep into this rabbit hole again, just going to stay at the peripheral...", ">\n\nNice build! Welcome to the Q10 club!", ">\n\nJust FYI keychron warranty service is super questionable. Having trouble with my Q3 and it's been super frustrating.", ">\n\nYes I have heard of that - hopefully nothing really goes wrong with it. \nWhat is the issue with yours?", ">\n\nKeys are repeating. It’s not isolated to any one key, randomly happening for different keys. It's getting noticeably bad now around the six-month mark.", ">\n\nAh ic - will have to keep an eye on it." ]

[ "\"First\" new keyboard after 2 years of taking a break, somehow I got pulled back in!\nI've been using splits and the last 2 years I have been using a Dactyl (Corne Layout) and recently been wanting something less DIY and something more \"premium\" feel with full aluminium case and a heavy case! Sadly not possible to get such thing in a Dactyl Manuform, so decided to look at other options, settled on a Alice/Arisu layout and the Q10 just happen to caught my eye.\nSurprisingly the \"downgrade\" in ergonomics from a split to a Alice hasn't been too bad! Took me about a day re-adjusting myself to a non-columnar keyboard. I am loving the feel of a non-diy keyboard though much better feel and experience when typing on a non-3d printed case which has been my life for the last 4 years.\nPretty stock standard - got Yong Qui WOB and Durock T1s on it, feels pretty good for me already. Trying to not go back too deep into this rabbit hole again, just going to stay at the peripheral...", ">\n\nNice build! Welcome to the Q10 club!", ">\n\nJust FYI keychron warranty service is super questionable. Having trouble with my Q3 and it's been super frustrating.", ">\n\nYes I have heard of that - hopefully nothing really goes wrong with it. \nWhat is the issue with yours?", ">\n\nKeys are repeating. It’s not isolated to any one key, randomly happening for different keys. It's getting noticeably bad now around the six-month mark.", ">\n\nAh ic - will have to keep an eye on it.", ">\n\nA fellow user of the Elecom HUGE\nnice" ]

[ "\"First\" new keyboard after 2 years of taking a break, somehow I got pulled back in!\nI've been using splits and the last 2 years I have been using a Dactyl (Corne Layout) and recently been wanting something less DIY and something more \"premium\" feel with full aluminium case and a heavy case! Sadly not possible to get such thing in a Dactyl Manuform, so decided to look at other options, settled on a Alice/Arisu layout and the Q10 just happen to caught my eye.\nSurprisingly the \"downgrade\" in ergonomics from a split to a Alice hasn't been too bad! Took me about a day re-adjusting myself to a non-columnar keyboard. I am loving the feel of a non-diy keyboard though much better feel and experience when typing on a non-3d printed case which has been my life for the last 4 years.\nPretty stock standard - got Yong Qui WOB and Durock T1s on it, feels pretty good for me already. Trying to not go back too deep into this rabbit hole again, just going to stay at the peripheral...", ">\n\nNice build! Welcome to the Q10 club!", ">\n\nJust FYI keychron warranty service is super questionable. Having trouble with my Q3 and it's been super frustrating.", ">\n\nYes I have heard of that - hopefully nothing really goes wrong with it. \nWhat is the issue with yours?", ">\n\nKeys are repeating. It’s not isolated to any one key, randomly happening for different keys. It's getting noticeably bad now around the six-month mark.", ">\n\nAh ic - will have to keep an eye on it.", ">\n\nA fellow user of the Elecom HUGE\nnice", ">\n\nhaha yes - i tend to swap between the huge, mx ergo and the magic trackpad. Helps with any RSI developing." ]

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[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?" ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions" ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭" ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭", ">\n\nThis post made me feel like the quality of Disney movies still don't compare to the ones made in the early 2000's. Even the video game for Treasure Planet was awesome back in the day lol. I think as a kid, Lion King was easier to digest??? It's talking lions which was so many children's favorite animal so Lion King automatically had a higher appeal with a story that can be understood. I think Treasure Planet was for kids who were slightly older but I could be wrong. I would compare Treasure Planet to Atlantis: The Lost City instead; I can rewatch those movies any day.\nI think the main problem is you're trying to compare Treasure Planet to a Trilogy. Lion King was made in 1994 before Treasure Planet came out. It already had so much more popularity." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭", ">\n\nThis post made me feel like the quality of Disney movies still don't compare to the ones made in the early 2000's. Even the video game for Treasure Planet was awesome back in the day lol. I think as a kid, Lion King was easier to digest??? It's talking lions which was so many children's favorite animal so Lion King automatically had a higher appeal with a story that can be understood. I think Treasure Planet was for kids who were slightly older but I could be wrong. I would compare Treasure Planet to Atlantis: The Lost City instead; I can rewatch those movies any day.\nI think the main problem is you're trying to compare Treasure Planet to a Trilogy. Lion King was made in 1994 before Treasure Planet came out. It already had so much more popularity.", ">\n\nYou made a good point. Thinking about it that way, yeah I can see kids picking talking lions over space pirates at the time. If we bring up the songs in the movies, Lion King has catchier ones for kids too. I guess that is why Lion King is more favored. Although, as a kid, when I watch Treasure Planet, I didn’t understand what was going on in the story, but the beautiful shots is what caught me. Then I rewatched it when I got a bit older and understood the plot. \nTrue, Lion King already has gained a good amount of popularity by the time Treasure Planet was released. Though it’s weird because a LOT of people don’t even know about Treasure Planet despite it being Disney (which is saying something if we consider it being around 2000-2010)" ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭", ">\n\nThis post made me feel like the quality of Disney movies still don't compare to the ones made in the early 2000's. Even the video game for Treasure Planet was awesome back in the day lol. I think as a kid, Lion King was easier to digest??? It's talking lions which was so many children's favorite animal so Lion King automatically had a higher appeal with a story that can be understood. I think Treasure Planet was for kids who were slightly older but I could be wrong. I would compare Treasure Planet to Atlantis: The Lost City instead; I can rewatch those movies any day.\nI think the main problem is you're trying to compare Treasure Planet to a Trilogy. Lion King was made in 1994 before Treasure Planet came out. It already had so much more popularity.", ">\n\nYou made a good point. Thinking about it that way, yeah I can see kids picking talking lions over space pirates at the time. If we bring up the songs in the movies, Lion King has catchier ones for kids too. I guess that is why Lion King is more favored. Although, as a kid, when I watch Treasure Planet, I didn’t understand what was going on in the story, but the beautiful shots is what caught me. Then I rewatched it when I got a bit older and understood the plot. \nTrue, Lion King already has gained a good amount of popularity by the time Treasure Planet was released. Though it’s weird because a LOT of people don’t even know about Treasure Planet despite it being Disney (which is saying something if we consider it being around 2000-2010)", ">\n\nYou're still right about ppl not knowing because in the early 2000's Disney had to compete with Cartoon network and Nickelodeon. There was just so much to watch between those 3 competitors lol, so I can see Treasure Planet falling through the cracks a little with all the other shows/movies Disney was pumping out to the public smh. Not many movies can compare to Treasure Planet though. True masterpiece and the video game on the PS2 made it even better to me. \nLooney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo, Kids Next Door, Proud Family, Danny Phantom, Cat& Dog, Jimmy Neutron, Code Name Kids Next Door, Ed, Edd & Eddy, Avatar: The Last Airbender, The old Mickey Mouse cartoons with the Goofy Movies. That was an insane time for kid shows. I feel like the movies as good as they were couldn't keep up with the shows. Don't forget about PBS and WB." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭", ">\n\nThis post made me feel like the quality of Disney movies still don't compare to the ones made in the early 2000's. Even the video game for Treasure Planet was awesome back in the day lol. I think as a kid, Lion King was easier to digest??? It's talking lions which was so many children's favorite animal so Lion King automatically had a higher appeal with a story that can be understood. I think Treasure Planet was for kids who were slightly older but I could be wrong. I would compare Treasure Planet to Atlantis: The Lost City instead; I can rewatch those movies any day.\nI think the main problem is you're trying to compare Treasure Planet to a Trilogy. Lion King was made in 1994 before Treasure Planet came out. It already had so much more popularity.", ">\n\nYou made a good point. Thinking about it that way, yeah I can see kids picking talking lions over space pirates at the time. If we bring up the songs in the movies, Lion King has catchier ones for kids too. I guess that is why Lion King is more favored. Although, as a kid, when I watch Treasure Planet, I didn’t understand what was going on in the story, but the beautiful shots is what caught me. Then I rewatched it when I got a bit older and understood the plot. \nTrue, Lion King already has gained a good amount of popularity by the time Treasure Planet was released. Though it’s weird because a LOT of people don’t even know about Treasure Planet despite it being Disney (which is saying something if we consider it being around 2000-2010)", ">\n\nYou're still right about ppl not knowing because in the early 2000's Disney had to compete with Cartoon network and Nickelodeon. There was just so much to watch between those 3 competitors lol, so I can see Treasure Planet falling through the cracks a little with all the other shows/movies Disney was pumping out to the public smh. Not many movies can compare to Treasure Planet though. True masterpiece and the video game on the PS2 made it even better to me. \nLooney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo, Kids Next Door, Proud Family, Danny Phantom, Cat& Dog, Jimmy Neutron, Code Name Kids Next Door, Ed, Edd & Eddy, Avatar: The Last Airbender, The old Mickey Mouse cartoons with the Goofy Movies. That was an insane time for kid shows. I feel like the movies as good as they were couldn't keep up with the shows. Don't forget about PBS and WB.", ">\n\nSounds like we had the same childhood 😂 The list definitely brought back a lot of good memories. I just regret that I didn’t even know the PS2 game existed considering PS2 was my main console back then." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭", ">\n\nThis post made me feel like the quality of Disney movies still don't compare to the ones made in the early 2000's. Even the video game for Treasure Planet was awesome back in the day lol. I think as a kid, Lion King was easier to digest??? It's talking lions which was so many children's favorite animal so Lion King automatically had a higher appeal with a story that can be understood. I think Treasure Planet was for kids who were slightly older but I could be wrong. I would compare Treasure Planet to Atlantis: The Lost City instead; I can rewatch those movies any day.\nI think the main problem is you're trying to compare Treasure Planet to a Trilogy. Lion King was made in 1994 before Treasure Planet came out. It already had so much more popularity.", ">\n\nYou made a good point. Thinking about it that way, yeah I can see kids picking talking lions over space pirates at the time. If we bring up the songs in the movies, Lion King has catchier ones for kids too. I guess that is why Lion King is more favored. Although, as a kid, when I watch Treasure Planet, I didn’t understand what was going on in the story, but the beautiful shots is what caught me. Then I rewatched it when I got a bit older and understood the plot. \nTrue, Lion King already has gained a good amount of popularity by the time Treasure Planet was released. Though it’s weird because a LOT of people don’t even know about Treasure Planet despite it being Disney (which is saying something if we consider it being around 2000-2010)", ">\n\nYou're still right about ppl not knowing because in the early 2000's Disney had to compete with Cartoon network and Nickelodeon. There was just so much to watch between those 3 competitors lol, so I can see Treasure Planet falling through the cracks a little with all the other shows/movies Disney was pumping out to the public smh. Not many movies can compare to Treasure Planet though. True masterpiece and the video game on the PS2 made it even better to me. \nLooney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo, Kids Next Door, Proud Family, Danny Phantom, Cat& Dog, Jimmy Neutron, Code Name Kids Next Door, Ed, Edd & Eddy, Avatar: The Last Airbender, The old Mickey Mouse cartoons with the Goofy Movies. That was an insane time for kid shows. I feel like the movies as good as they were couldn't keep up with the shows. Don't forget about PBS and WB.", ">\n\nSounds like we had the same childhood 😂 The list definitely brought back a lot of good memories. I just regret that I didn’t even know the PS2 game existed considering PS2 was my main console back then.", ">\n\nAbsolutely disagree, so take your upvote." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭", ">\n\nThis post made me feel like the quality of Disney movies still don't compare to the ones made in the early 2000's. Even the video game for Treasure Planet was awesome back in the day lol. I think as a kid, Lion King was easier to digest??? It's talking lions which was so many children's favorite animal so Lion King automatically had a higher appeal with a story that can be understood. I think Treasure Planet was for kids who were slightly older but I could be wrong. I would compare Treasure Planet to Atlantis: The Lost City instead; I can rewatch those movies any day.\nI think the main problem is you're trying to compare Treasure Planet to a Trilogy. Lion King was made in 1994 before Treasure Planet came out. It already had so much more popularity.", ">\n\nYou made a good point. Thinking about it that way, yeah I can see kids picking talking lions over space pirates at the time. If we bring up the songs in the movies, Lion King has catchier ones for kids too. I guess that is why Lion King is more favored. Although, as a kid, when I watch Treasure Planet, I didn’t understand what was going on in the story, but the beautiful shots is what caught me. Then I rewatched it when I got a bit older and understood the plot. \nTrue, Lion King already has gained a good amount of popularity by the time Treasure Planet was released. Though it’s weird because a LOT of people don’t even know about Treasure Planet despite it being Disney (which is saying something if we consider it being around 2000-2010)", ">\n\nYou're still right about ppl not knowing because in the early 2000's Disney had to compete with Cartoon network and Nickelodeon. There was just so much to watch between those 3 competitors lol, so I can see Treasure Planet falling through the cracks a little with all the other shows/movies Disney was pumping out to the public smh. Not many movies can compare to Treasure Planet though. True masterpiece and the video game on the PS2 made it even better to me. \nLooney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo, Kids Next Door, Proud Family, Danny Phantom, Cat& Dog, Jimmy Neutron, Code Name Kids Next Door, Ed, Edd & Eddy, Avatar: The Last Airbender, The old Mickey Mouse cartoons with the Goofy Movies. That was an insane time for kid shows. I feel like the movies as good as they were couldn't keep up with the shows. Don't forget about PBS and WB.", ">\n\nSounds like we had the same childhood 😂 The list definitely brought back a lot of good memories. I just regret that I didn’t even know the PS2 game existed considering PS2 was my main console back then.", ">\n\nAbsolutely disagree, so take your upvote.", ">\n\nAwww. It’s like my childhood all over again" ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭", ">\n\nThis post made me feel like the quality of Disney movies still don't compare to the ones made in the early 2000's. Even the video game for Treasure Planet was awesome back in the day lol. I think as a kid, Lion King was easier to digest??? It's talking lions which was so many children's favorite animal so Lion King automatically had a higher appeal with a story that can be understood. I think Treasure Planet was for kids who were slightly older but I could be wrong. I would compare Treasure Planet to Atlantis: The Lost City instead; I can rewatch those movies any day.\nI think the main problem is you're trying to compare Treasure Planet to a Trilogy. Lion King was made in 1994 before Treasure Planet came out. It already had so much more popularity.", ">\n\nYou made a good point. Thinking about it that way, yeah I can see kids picking talking lions over space pirates at the time. If we bring up the songs in the movies, Lion King has catchier ones for kids too. I guess that is why Lion King is more favored. Although, as a kid, when I watch Treasure Planet, I didn’t understand what was going on in the story, but the beautiful shots is what caught me. Then I rewatched it when I got a bit older and understood the plot. \nTrue, Lion King already has gained a good amount of popularity by the time Treasure Planet was released. Though it’s weird because a LOT of people don’t even know about Treasure Planet despite it being Disney (which is saying something if we consider it being around 2000-2010)", ">\n\nYou're still right about ppl not knowing because in the early 2000's Disney had to compete with Cartoon network and Nickelodeon. There was just so much to watch between those 3 competitors lol, so I can see Treasure Planet falling through the cracks a little with all the other shows/movies Disney was pumping out to the public smh. Not many movies can compare to Treasure Planet though. True masterpiece and the video game on the PS2 made it even better to me. \nLooney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo, Kids Next Door, Proud Family, Danny Phantom, Cat& Dog, Jimmy Neutron, Code Name Kids Next Door, Ed, Edd & Eddy, Avatar: The Last Airbender, The old Mickey Mouse cartoons with the Goofy Movies. That was an insane time for kid shows. I feel like the movies as good as they were couldn't keep up with the shows. Don't forget about PBS and WB.", ">\n\nSounds like we had the same childhood 😂 The list definitely brought back a lot of good memories. I just regret that I didn’t even know the PS2 game existed considering PS2 was my main console back then.", ">\n\nAbsolutely disagree, so take your upvote.", ">\n\nAwww. It’s like my childhood all over again", ">\n\nThis is how you do unpopular opinions." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭", ">\n\nThis post made me feel like the quality of Disney movies still don't compare to the ones made in the early 2000's. Even the video game for Treasure Planet was awesome back in the day lol. I think as a kid, Lion King was easier to digest??? It's talking lions which was so many children's favorite animal so Lion King automatically had a higher appeal with a story that can be understood. I think Treasure Planet was for kids who were slightly older but I could be wrong. I would compare Treasure Planet to Atlantis: The Lost City instead; I can rewatch those movies any day.\nI think the main problem is you're trying to compare Treasure Planet to a Trilogy. Lion King was made in 1994 before Treasure Planet came out. It already had so much more popularity.", ">\n\nYou made a good point. Thinking about it that way, yeah I can see kids picking talking lions over space pirates at the time. If we bring up the songs in the movies, Lion King has catchier ones for kids too. I guess that is why Lion King is more favored. Although, as a kid, when I watch Treasure Planet, I didn’t understand what was going on in the story, but the beautiful shots is what caught me. Then I rewatched it when I got a bit older and understood the plot. \nTrue, Lion King already has gained a good amount of popularity by the time Treasure Planet was released. Though it’s weird because a LOT of people don’t even know about Treasure Planet despite it being Disney (which is saying something if we consider it being around 2000-2010)", ">\n\nYou're still right about ppl not knowing because in the early 2000's Disney had to compete with Cartoon network and Nickelodeon. There was just so much to watch between those 3 competitors lol, so I can see Treasure Planet falling through the cracks a little with all the other shows/movies Disney was pumping out to the public smh. Not many movies can compare to Treasure Planet though. True masterpiece and the video game on the PS2 made it even better to me. \nLooney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo, Kids Next Door, Proud Family, Danny Phantom, Cat& Dog, Jimmy Neutron, Code Name Kids Next Door, Ed, Edd & Eddy, Avatar: The Last Airbender, The old Mickey Mouse cartoons with the Goofy Movies. That was an insane time for kid shows. I feel like the movies as good as they were couldn't keep up with the shows. Don't forget about PBS and WB.", ">\n\nSounds like we had the same childhood 😂 The list definitely brought back a lot of good memories. I just regret that I didn’t even know the PS2 game existed considering PS2 was my main console back then.", ">\n\nAbsolutely disagree, so take your upvote.", ">\n\nAwww. It’s like my childhood all over again", ">\n\nThis is how you do unpopular opinions.", ">\n\nWhat year were you born in?\nI watched both as a kid and NO WAY MAN. The Lion King is simply a masterpiece. Its use of special effects was groundbreaking for its time (for instance in the scene where the wildebeests are running down the hill). Its animation and character design are amazing. Visually, it's much better than Treasure Planet.\nI don't dislike TP but it's much less accomplished as a film and it flopped if I remember correctly while LK was a sensation. TP had some good ideas but its use of CGI and its final look weren't great.\nI think Lion King has a very compelling story. It's based off Shakespeare and Simba is also a flawed and troubled character. He thinks he is responsible for the death of his father and he's essentially retreated to a fantasy world of superficial carelessness and \"fun\" that conceals a deep pain. This is horribly egoistic of him because his mother thinks he's dead and ke knows that. He reminds me of myself when I was in my early 20s smoking tons of weed and running away from my potential. Then he has a few fateful encounters from his past (Nala, Rafiki, and eventually the ghost of his father the king) and eventually decides to go back and face his evil uncle Scar.\nWhat's great about Simba's decision is that when he goes back, he still thinks he's the one who killed his father. But he goes back anyway! Only after he's gone back and seen the disappointment on his mother's face upon learning that (which we as viewers know to be a lie), only when Scar has Simba hanging of a cliff and is about to kill him, does he tell him the truth, and that's what gives Simba the anger and the strength to fight back and defeat Scar. Seeing all of this as a child (I was 2 or 3 when LK came out) was so powerful I still cry when I watch this film.\nAgain, I don't want to trash TP but I just don't think it has the same impact and depth." ]

[ "Why are you specifically comparing it to Lion King? Why not compare it to something from the same genre?", ">\n\nSimply because Lion King has been dubbed at some point, the best Disney movie ever. I never really did get the hype about it despite so many people saying it’s the greatest and unbeatable, both in person and online. I think Treasure Planet is leagues ahead, though a lot of times, people don’t even know about it, hence they haven’t watched it.", ">\n\nIt is an unappreciated gem. I have read the book and watched various interpretations into movies over the years, and this is by far the best version.\nYes, it's been Disneyfied, but in a very good way.", ">\n\nI can't say I particularly loved Treasure Planet, but it really surprised me how faithful of an adaptation it was.", ">\n\nYou know, I don't really know why I didn't like Treasure Planet. It's gorgeous, the sci-fi elements are really cool and well developed, the characters are interesting... I like the book, so it's not the core story. I think I just found it boring? Maybe it felt a little slow or something.", ">\n\nAgreed loin king is just another remake of a even older story. Treasure planet went its own way and most people don't care about being unique. It's such a masterpiece. The way they were able to add 3d characters into 2D without anyone noticing, good fleshed out characters with drive that make you actually associate with them. Treasure planet didn't need songs to carry it. Like without those songs lionking wouldn't of been good.", ">\n\nAutomod: Sorry it appears you’ve posted in r/unpopularopinion by mistake, instead of r/incorrectopinions", ">\n\n😭", ">\n\nThis post made me feel like the quality of Disney movies still don't compare to the ones made in the early 2000's. Even the video game for Treasure Planet was awesome back in the day lol. I think as a kid, Lion King was easier to digest??? It's talking lions which was so many children's favorite animal so Lion King automatically had a higher appeal with a story that can be understood. I think Treasure Planet was for kids who were slightly older but I could be wrong. I would compare Treasure Planet to Atlantis: The Lost City instead; I can rewatch those movies any day.\nI think the main problem is you're trying to compare Treasure Planet to a Trilogy. Lion King was made in 1994 before Treasure Planet came out. It already had so much more popularity.", ">\n\nYou made a good point. Thinking about it that way, yeah I can see kids picking talking lions over space pirates at the time. If we bring up the songs in the movies, Lion King has catchier ones for kids too. I guess that is why Lion King is more favored. Although, as a kid, when I watch Treasure Planet, I didn’t understand what was going on in the story, but the beautiful shots is what caught me. Then I rewatched it when I got a bit older and understood the plot. \nTrue, Lion King already has gained a good amount of popularity by the time Treasure Planet was released. Though it’s weird because a LOT of people don’t even know about Treasure Planet despite it being Disney (which is saying something if we consider it being around 2000-2010)", ">\n\nYou're still right about ppl not knowing because in the early 2000's Disney had to compete with Cartoon network and Nickelodeon. There was just so much to watch between those 3 competitors lol, so I can see Treasure Planet falling through the cracks a little with all the other shows/movies Disney was pumping out to the public smh. Not many movies can compare to Treasure Planet though. True masterpiece and the video game on the PS2 made it even better to me. \nLooney Tunes, Tom & Jerry, Scooby Doo, Kids Next Door, Proud Family, Danny Phantom, Cat& Dog, Jimmy Neutron, Code Name Kids Next Door, Ed, Edd & Eddy, Avatar: The Last Airbender, The old Mickey Mouse cartoons with the Goofy Movies. That was an insane time for kid shows. I feel like the movies as good as they were couldn't keep up with the shows. Don't forget about PBS and WB.", ">\n\nSounds like we had the same childhood 😂 The list definitely brought back a lot of good memories. I just regret that I didn’t even know the PS2 game existed considering PS2 was my main console back then.", ">\n\nAbsolutely disagree, so take your upvote.", ">\n\nAwww. It’s like my childhood all over again", ">\n\nThis is how you do unpopular opinions.", ">\n\nWhat year were you born in?\nI watched both as a kid and NO WAY MAN. The Lion King is simply a masterpiece. Its use of special effects was groundbreaking for its time (for instance in the scene where the wildebeests are running down the hill). Its animation and character design are amazing. Visually, it's much better than Treasure Planet.\nI don't dislike TP but it's much less accomplished as a film and it flopped if I remember correctly while LK was a sensation. TP had some good ideas but its use of CGI and its final look weren't great.\nI think Lion King has a very compelling story. It's based off Shakespeare and Simba is also a flawed and troubled character. He thinks he is responsible for the death of his father and he's essentially retreated to a fantasy world of superficial carelessness and \"fun\" that conceals a deep pain. This is horribly egoistic of him because his mother thinks he's dead and ke knows that. He reminds me of myself when I was in my early 20s smoking tons of weed and running away from my potential. Then he has a few fateful encounters from his past (Nala, Rafiki, and eventually the ghost of his father the king) and eventually decides to go back and face his evil uncle Scar.\nWhat's great about Simba's decision is that when he goes back, he still thinks he's the one who killed his father. But he goes back anyway! Only after he's gone back and seen the disappointment on his mother's face upon learning that (which we as viewers know to be a lie), only when Scar has Simba hanging of a cliff and is about to kill him, does he tell him the truth, and that's what gives Simba the anger and the strength to fight back and defeat Scar. Seeing all of this as a child (I was 2 or 3 when LK came out) was so powerful I still cry when I watch this film.\nAgain, I don't want to trash TP but I just don't think it has the same impact and depth.", ">\n\nI don't want to disagree, because I adore Treasure Planet (the version of Long John Silver from the movie is up there with Tim Curry's version from Muppet Treasure Island and the version from Black Sails as one of the best depictions of the character), but The Lion King was a cultural phenomenon for a reason, and it's forever enshrined as one of my favorite movies from Disney's Renaissance.\nThat said, whether or not a movie is \"good\" is largely subjective, so more power to you if you prefer Treasure Planet. It's a great movie." ]

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[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"" ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?" ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad." ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?" ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?" ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?" ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s." ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s.", ">\n\nDo you think the world is better when creatives have absolute control over how their art is used, long after they've died? Do you think art is better that way?" ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s.", ">\n\nDo you think the world is better when creatives have absolute control over how their art is used, long after they've died? Do you think art is better that way?", ">\n\nI’m a little conflicted there. On the one hand, yes, I believe that if Van Gogh had told Theo on his death bed to burn the damned paintings that never sold, then his wishes should have been honored. But at the same time, that would have robbed the world of the work of the greatest painter of modern times. \nI guess what it boils down to is this — Are the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?" ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s.", ">\n\nDo you think the world is better when creatives have absolute control over how their art is used, long after they've died? Do you think art is better that way?", ">\n\nI’m a little conflicted there. On the one hand, yes, I believe that if Van Gogh had told Theo on his death bed to burn the damned paintings that never sold, then his wishes should have been honored. But at the same time, that would have robbed the world of the work of the greatest painter of modern times. \nI guess what it boils down to is this — Are the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?", ">\n\n\nAre the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?\n\nThe trouble is, that's too nuanced question for a rule like this. Just as an example in 50 years when someone wants to make a movie about discovering their grandparents spongebob vhs's and how that contextualised their relationship. There can be people arguing both ways, that this is an artistically valid project because spongebob was meaningful to old people, and that this is cashing in on a known name for money. \nYou'd create a system where any new project has to prove it's not a cash grab, instead of assuming the intent is genuine until you have evidence otherwise." ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s.", ">\n\nDo you think the world is better when creatives have absolute control over how their art is used, long after they've died? Do you think art is better that way?", ">\n\nI’m a little conflicted there. On the one hand, yes, I believe that if Van Gogh had told Theo on his death bed to burn the damned paintings that never sold, then his wishes should have been honored. But at the same time, that would have robbed the world of the work of the greatest painter of modern times. \nI guess what it boils down to is this — Are the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?", ">\n\n\nAre the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?\n\nThe trouble is, that's too nuanced question for a rule like this. Just as an example in 50 years when someone wants to make a movie about discovering their grandparents spongebob vhs's and how that contextualised their relationship. There can be people arguing both ways, that this is an artistically valid project because spongebob was meaningful to old people, and that this is cashing in on a known name for money. \nYou'd create a system where any new project has to prove it's not a cash grab, instead of assuming the intent is genuine until you have evidence otherwise.", ">\n\nChiming in as someone who has never seen a single episode.\nI appreciate the notion of \"respect someone's wishes\". But I also appreciate that when art is created and released to the public, it's out of the artist's hands - and they know that going into it. If you create artwork that you want to keep private, you keep it private. That's human nature. People want to create and consume things that will bring them joy, and no amount of asking them not to will ever stop that from happening. \nSo now that he's gone, let's examine this pragmatically. The franchise appears to be wildly popular across multiple generations, a rare feat. Ignoring the cold, capitalist desire to keep the IP alive and making money for a bunch of execs, let's focus on the actual consumers. Think about the parents watching new content with their kids, and how they're all happy to have new content. \nHillenburg has passed away. Should millions of people really be denied something entertaining that brings them closer together, just because a man who is no longer with us didn't like greedy media execs? Personally, I don't think so. I think media execs should be less awful about it (for example, lay off relentless merchandising and whatnot and just make new episodes of the show, and pay the writers / animators / etc a much bigger share of the cut).\nIf you want to personally honor his wishes, you're welcome to do so by boycotting new material. But I don't think it's fair to deny so much joy to so many others." ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s.", ">\n\nDo you think the world is better when creatives have absolute control over how their art is used, long after they've died? Do you think art is better that way?", ">\n\nI’m a little conflicted there. On the one hand, yes, I believe that if Van Gogh had told Theo on his death bed to burn the damned paintings that never sold, then his wishes should have been honored. But at the same time, that would have robbed the world of the work of the greatest painter of modern times. \nI guess what it boils down to is this — Are the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?", ">\n\n\nAre the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?\n\nThe trouble is, that's too nuanced question for a rule like this. Just as an example in 50 years when someone wants to make a movie about discovering their grandparents spongebob vhs's and how that contextualised their relationship. There can be people arguing both ways, that this is an artistically valid project because spongebob was meaningful to old people, and that this is cashing in on a known name for money. \nYou'd create a system where any new project has to prove it's not a cash grab, instead of assuming the intent is genuine until you have evidence otherwise.", ">\n\nChiming in as someone who has never seen a single episode.\nI appreciate the notion of \"respect someone's wishes\". But I also appreciate that when art is created and released to the public, it's out of the artist's hands - and they know that going into it. If you create artwork that you want to keep private, you keep it private. That's human nature. People want to create and consume things that will bring them joy, and no amount of asking them not to will ever stop that from happening. \nSo now that he's gone, let's examine this pragmatically. The franchise appears to be wildly popular across multiple generations, a rare feat. Ignoring the cold, capitalist desire to keep the IP alive and making money for a bunch of execs, let's focus on the actual consumers. Think about the parents watching new content with their kids, and how they're all happy to have new content. \nHillenburg has passed away. Should millions of people really be denied something entertaining that brings them closer together, just because a man who is no longer with us didn't like greedy media execs? Personally, I don't think so. I think media execs should be less awful about it (for example, lay off relentless merchandising and whatnot and just make new episodes of the show, and pay the writers / animators / etc a much bigger share of the cut).\nIf you want to personally honor his wishes, you're welcome to do so by boycotting new material. But I don't think it's fair to deny so much joy to so many others.", ">\n\nI agree but please watch an episode, this just doesn't sit right with me." ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s.", ">\n\nDo you think the world is better when creatives have absolute control over how their art is used, long after they've died? Do you think art is better that way?", ">\n\nI’m a little conflicted there. On the one hand, yes, I believe that if Van Gogh had told Theo on his death bed to burn the damned paintings that never sold, then his wishes should have been honored. But at the same time, that would have robbed the world of the work of the greatest painter of modern times. \nI guess what it boils down to is this — Are the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?", ">\n\n\nAre the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?\n\nThe trouble is, that's too nuanced question for a rule like this. Just as an example in 50 years when someone wants to make a movie about discovering their grandparents spongebob vhs's and how that contextualised their relationship. There can be people arguing both ways, that this is an artistically valid project because spongebob was meaningful to old people, and that this is cashing in on a known name for money. \nYou'd create a system where any new project has to prove it's not a cash grab, instead of assuming the intent is genuine until you have evidence otherwise.", ">\n\nChiming in as someone who has never seen a single episode.\nI appreciate the notion of \"respect someone's wishes\". But I also appreciate that when art is created and released to the public, it's out of the artist's hands - and they know that going into it. If you create artwork that you want to keep private, you keep it private. That's human nature. People want to create and consume things that will bring them joy, and no amount of asking them not to will ever stop that from happening. \nSo now that he's gone, let's examine this pragmatically. The franchise appears to be wildly popular across multiple generations, a rare feat. Ignoring the cold, capitalist desire to keep the IP alive and making money for a bunch of execs, let's focus on the actual consumers. Think about the parents watching new content with their kids, and how they're all happy to have new content. \nHillenburg has passed away. Should millions of people really be denied something entertaining that brings them closer together, just because a man who is no longer with us didn't like greedy media execs? Personally, I don't think so. I think media execs should be less awful about it (for example, lay off relentless merchandising and whatnot and just make new episodes of the show, and pay the writers / animators / etc a much bigger share of the cut).\nIf you want to personally honor his wishes, you're welcome to do so by boycotting new material. But I don't think it's fair to deny so much joy to so many others.", ">\n\nI agree but please watch an episode, this just doesn't sit right with me.", ">\n\nSee I think the magic lies in having watched it as a child and then enjoying it again as an adult. If your first exposure to SpongeBob is as an adult, it may not have the same impact." ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s.", ">\n\nDo you think the world is better when creatives have absolute control over how their art is used, long after they've died? Do you think art is better that way?", ">\n\nI’m a little conflicted there. On the one hand, yes, I believe that if Van Gogh had told Theo on his death bed to burn the damned paintings that never sold, then his wishes should have been honored. But at the same time, that would have robbed the world of the work of the greatest painter of modern times. \nI guess what it boils down to is this — Are the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?", ">\n\n\nAre the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?\n\nThe trouble is, that's too nuanced question for a rule like this. Just as an example in 50 years when someone wants to make a movie about discovering their grandparents spongebob vhs's and how that contextualised their relationship. There can be people arguing both ways, that this is an artistically valid project because spongebob was meaningful to old people, and that this is cashing in on a known name for money. \nYou'd create a system where any new project has to prove it's not a cash grab, instead of assuming the intent is genuine until you have evidence otherwise.", ">\n\nChiming in as someone who has never seen a single episode.\nI appreciate the notion of \"respect someone's wishes\". But I also appreciate that when art is created and released to the public, it's out of the artist's hands - and they know that going into it. If you create artwork that you want to keep private, you keep it private. That's human nature. People want to create and consume things that will bring them joy, and no amount of asking them not to will ever stop that from happening. \nSo now that he's gone, let's examine this pragmatically. The franchise appears to be wildly popular across multiple generations, a rare feat. Ignoring the cold, capitalist desire to keep the IP alive and making money for a bunch of execs, let's focus on the actual consumers. Think about the parents watching new content with their kids, and how they're all happy to have new content. \nHillenburg has passed away. Should millions of people really be denied something entertaining that brings them closer together, just because a man who is no longer with us didn't like greedy media execs? Personally, I don't think so. I think media execs should be less awful about it (for example, lay off relentless merchandising and whatnot and just make new episodes of the show, and pay the writers / animators / etc a much bigger share of the cut).\nIf you want to personally honor his wishes, you're welcome to do so by boycotting new material. But I don't think it's fair to deny so much joy to so many others.", ">\n\nI agree but please watch an episode, this just doesn't sit right with me.", ">\n\nSee I think the magic lies in having watched it as a child and then enjoying it again as an adult. If your first exposure to SpongeBob is as an adult, it may not have the same impact.", ">\n\nYou know one beloved, childhood entertainment that isn't getting spin offs or merchandising or new content? Calvin & Hobbies\nYou know why? Because it's creator, who suspected he was creating something that would outlive him, who didn't want his IP to become a zombie controlled by executives wringing every penny from it, fought like hell to control the rights over it. \nStephen Hillenburg grew up in the age when Bill Watterson did battle with the newspaper comic syndicates over rights. He grew up when Stan Lee and Jack Kriby were held up as cautionary tales, and contrasted with Todd McFarlane for how and when creators should protect ownership of their work. \nHillenburg grew up with Fruity Pebbles as a breakfast cereal, with Snoopy as a giant balloon in the Macy's Thanksgiving parade, with the omni-merchandised Garfield. He knew what the risks were, and for whatever reason(s), he didn't fight to protect the rights to his creations from perpetual use. \nMaybe the choice Hillenburg was offered was \"perpetual rights, or the show never gets made at all\"; if that really was the option, then Hillenburg would rather the show get made and aired and zombified than no one ever see it at all. But that is a choice he made." ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s.", ">\n\nDo you think the world is better when creatives have absolute control over how their art is used, long after they've died? Do you think art is better that way?", ">\n\nI’m a little conflicted there. On the one hand, yes, I believe that if Van Gogh had told Theo on his death bed to burn the damned paintings that never sold, then his wishes should have been honored. But at the same time, that would have robbed the world of the work of the greatest painter of modern times. \nI guess what it boils down to is this — Are the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?", ">\n\n\nAre the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?\n\nThe trouble is, that's too nuanced question for a rule like this. Just as an example in 50 years when someone wants to make a movie about discovering their grandparents spongebob vhs's and how that contextualised their relationship. There can be people arguing both ways, that this is an artistically valid project because spongebob was meaningful to old people, and that this is cashing in on a known name for money. \nYou'd create a system where any new project has to prove it's not a cash grab, instead of assuming the intent is genuine until you have evidence otherwise.", ">\n\nChiming in as someone who has never seen a single episode.\nI appreciate the notion of \"respect someone's wishes\". But I also appreciate that when art is created and released to the public, it's out of the artist's hands - and they know that going into it. If you create artwork that you want to keep private, you keep it private. That's human nature. People want to create and consume things that will bring them joy, and no amount of asking them not to will ever stop that from happening. \nSo now that he's gone, let's examine this pragmatically. The franchise appears to be wildly popular across multiple generations, a rare feat. Ignoring the cold, capitalist desire to keep the IP alive and making money for a bunch of execs, let's focus on the actual consumers. Think about the parents watching new content with their kids, and how they're all happy to have new content. \nHillenburg has passed away. Should millions of people really be denied something entertaining that brings them closer together, just because a man who is no longer with us didn't like greedy media execs? Personally, I don't think so. I think media execs should be less awful about it (for example, lay off relentless merchandising and whatnot and just make new episodes of the show, and pay the writers / animators / etc a much bigger share of the cut).\nIf you want to personally honor his wishes, you're welcome to do so by boycotting new material. But I don't think it's fair to deny so much joy to so many others.", ">\n\nI agree but please watch an episode, this just doesn't sit right with me.", ">\n\nSee I think the magic lies in having watched it as a child and then enjoying it again as an adult. If your first exposure to SpongeBob is as an adult, it may not have the same impact.", ">\n\nYou know one beloved, childhood entertainment that isn't getting spin offs or merchandising or new content? Calvin & Hobbies\nYou know why? Because it's creator, who suspected he was creating something that would outlive him, who didn't want his IP to become a zombie controlled by executives wringing every penny from it, fought like hell to control the rights over it. \nStephen Hillenburg grew up in the age when Bill Watterson did battle with the newspaper comic syndicates over rights. He grew up when Stan Lee and Jack Kriby were held up as cautionary tales, and contrasted with Todd McFarlane for how and when creators should protect ownership of their work. \nHillenburg grew up with Fruity Pebbles as a breakfast cereal, with Snoopy as a giant balloon in the Macy's Thanksgiving parade, with the omni-merchandised Garfield. He knew what the risks were, and for whatever reason(s), he didn't fight to protect the rights to his creations from perpetual use. \nMaybe the choice Hillenburg was offered was \"perpetual rights, or the show never gets made at all\"; if that really was the option, then Hillenburg would rather the show get made and aired and zombified than no one ever see it at all. But that is a choice he made.", ">\n\nYou've changed and look at something from your child as being better when you were it's exact demographic." ]

[ "He didn’t want his IP...\n\nIt is Nickelodeon's IP, he sold it to them.\n\"Nickelodeon can do anything it wants. The studio owns all rights to the show and to franchises for “SpongeBob” merchandise. Hillenburg sold his rights to get his concept made\"", ">\n\nHow long should this moritorium last, say 10 years later someone wants to buy the rights to spongebob and use it as a jumping off point for new ideas?", ">\n\nWhat I mean is that, besides reruns of already released material, the IP needs to be put to rest. That’s what it’s creator wanted, and his body wasn’t even cold before the network shot that idea down.\nI think the creator of a franchise or medium should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that takes, for good or bad.", ">\n\n\nI think the creator of a franchise or media should have the ultimate deciding power as to the direction that media takes, for good or bad.\n\nSo for example, if shakespear had died saying 'never do any of my plays again', do you think it would be morally wrong to stage hamlet now?", ">\n\nIf that was well known and accepted historical fact — then yes. If your life’s work as you see it can be categorically undone once you’re no longer around, how much does it mean in the end?", ">\n\nNothing means anything in the end, but we don't live in the end, we're alive now. Spongebob or Shakepear's works, are meaningful to people in the moment, and some of that meaning leads to telling new stories.\nUnder your system, could someone say on their death bed \"Only white people can use my characters.\" And would you say that's a good reason to stop black people making parodies of those characters?", ">\n\nI see your point. But I think that if a creator wanted to make some weird demand like that, then that is their prerogative. It’s not a good reason, and it would lead to people rightfully abandoning their creation, but at least that was their mistake to make, nobody else’s.", ">\n\nDo you think the world is better when creatives have absolute control over how their art is used, long after they've died? Do you think art is better that way?", ">\n\nI’m a little conflicted there. On the one hand, yes, I believe that if Van Gogh had told Theo on his death bed to burn the damned paintings that never sold, then his wishes should have been honored. But at the same time, that would have robbed the world of the work of the greatest painter of modern times. \nI guess what it boils down to is this — Are the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?", ">\n\n\nAre the wishes of the creator being ignored for the love of the art? Or the love of money?\n\nThe trouble is, that's too nuanced question for a rule like this. Just as an example in 50 years when someone wants to make a movie about discovering their grandparents spongebob vhs's and how that contextualised their relationship. There can be people arguing both ways, that this is an artistically valid project because spongebob was meaningful to old people, and that this is cashing in on a known name for money. \nYou'd create a system where any new project has to prove it's not a cash grab, instead of assuming the intent is genuine until you have evidence otherwise.", ">\n\nChiming in as someone who has never seen a single episode.\nI appreciate the notion of \"respect someone's wishes\". But I also appreciate that when art is created and released to the public, it's out of the artist's hands - and they know that going into it. If you create artwork that you want to keep private, you keep it private. That's human nature. People want to create and consume things that will bring them joy, and no amount of asking them not to will ever stop that from happening. \nSo now that he's gone, let's examine this pragmatically. The franchise appears to be wildly popular across multiple generations, a rare feat. Ignoring the cold, capitalist desire to keep the IP alive and making money for a bunch of execs, let's focus on the actual consumers. Think about the parents watching new content with their kids, and how they're all happy to have new content. \nHillenburg has passed away. Should millions of people really be denied something entertaining that brings them closer together, just because a man who is no longer with us didn't like greedy media execs? Personally, I don't think so. I think media execs should be less awful about it (for example, lay off relentless merchandising and whatnot and just make new episodes of the show, and pay the writers / animators / etc a much bigger share of the cut).\nIf you want to personally honor his wishes, you're welcome to do so by boycotting new material. But I don't think it's fair to deny so much joy to so many others.", ">\n\nI agree but please watch an episode, this just doesn't sit right with me.", ">\n\nSee I think the magic lies in having watched it as a child and then enjoying it again as an adult. If your first exposure to SpongeBob is as an adult, it may not have the same impact.", ">\n\nYou know one beloved, childhood entertainment that isn't getting spin offs or merchandising or new content? Calvin & Hobbies\nYou know why? Because it's creator, who suspected he was creating something that would outlive him, who didn't want his IP to become a zombie controlled by executives wringing every penny from it, fought like hell to control the rights over it. \nStephen Hillenburg grew up in the age when Bill Watterson did battle with the newspaper comic syndicates over rights. He grew up when Stan Lee and Jack Kriby were held up as cautionary tales, and contrasted with Todd McFarlane for how and when creators should protect ownership of their work. \nHillenburg grew up with Fruity Pebbles as a breakfast cereal, with Snoopy as a giant balloon in the Macy's Thanksgiving parade, with the omni-merchandised Garfield. He knew what the risks were, and for whatever reason(s), he didn't fight to protect the rights to his creations from perpetual use. \nMaybe the choice Hillenburg was offered was \"perpetual rights, or the show never gets made at all\"; if that really was the option, then Hillenburg would rather the show get made and aired and zombified than no one ever see it at all. But that is a choice he made.", ">\n\nYou've changed and look at something from your child as being better when you were it's exact demographic.", ">\n\nIt’s not about the show, I don’t watch it anymore myself (unless my son wants me to sit and watch with him). It just sits wrong with me that Hillenburg practically begged those who worked with him to not let the IP be run into the dirt. He didn’t want 15 spin-offs, movie deals, or continuing the original show ad infinitum. Not without his say. \nAnd those who may have had the power to respect the wishes of their colleague and friend did not. I say better late than never" ]