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Woosh like so many Iranian drones over your head. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure."
] |
>
I’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head."
] |
>
It was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity.
Because of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq."
] |
>
The drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise."
] |
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If you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”."
] |
>
Like the US care about war crimes lol... | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope."
] |
>
They really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣 | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol..."
] |
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Weapons of mass destruction?! | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣"
] |
>
Ok, we'll bring out the white powder. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!"
] |
>
The US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years… | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder."
] |
>
It has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…"
] |
>
Well if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though."
] |
>
And the US no??
The country who invaded more countries in this century.....
Ahhahahhahahahaa | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US."
] |
>
US really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa"
] |
>
If you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme."
] |
>
If you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°
By that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case."
] |
>
Circle gets the square. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings."
] |
>
I want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square."
] |
>
Did they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital? | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things."
] |
>
There “may” be weapons one mass destruction | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?"
] |
>
The US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.
I’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction"
] |
>
wow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair? | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda."
] |
>
Iran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me.
Those who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no... | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?"
] |
>
They are kind of known for their crimes against humanity. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no..."
] |
>
Maybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity."
] |
>
We should take their oil to show them a lesson. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place."
] |
>
Is this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine? | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson."
] |
>
Does this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman? | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?"
] |
>
No kidding | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?"
] |
>
It's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding"
] |
>
And im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.
Edit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS."
] |
>
. . . they are literally executing their own people. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action."
] |
>
The US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people."
] |
>
I mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously."
] |
>
Okay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up? | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising."
] |
>
Considering Ukraine has also committed tons of war crimes as well, all NATO countries giving weapons should take responsibility. /s
They are just threatening Iran, lol. You are not responsible for what people do with your weapons sold. You know, I never heard of a war without war crimes, neither a society without crimes at all, it's part of human nature. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising.",
">\n\nOkay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up?"
] |
>
^^(Speculation)
Russia government is tied to the Khamenei regime
Khamenei's power is threatened by mass unrest and internal stability
The government that replaces Khamenei's | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising.",
">\n\nOkay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up?",
">\n\nConsidering Ukraine has also committed tons of war crimes as well, all NATO countries giving weapons should take responsibility. /s\nThey are just threatening Iran, lol. You are not responsible for what people do with your weapons sold. You know, I never heard of a war without war crimes, neither a society without crimes at all, it's part of human nature."
] |
>
Really too bad US overplayed it’s hands in 2003. Iran checks all the boxes for a bit of Lockheed Martin freedom. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising.",
">\n\nOkay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up?",
">\n\nConsidering Ukraine has also committed tons of war crimes as well, all NATO countries giving weapons should take responsibility. /s\nThey are just threatening Iran, lol. You are not responsible for what people do with your weapons sold. You know, I never heard of a war without war crimes, neither a society without crimes at all, it's part of human nature.",
">\n\n^^(Speculation)\n\n\nRussia government is tied to the Khamenei regime \n\n\nKhamenei's power is threatened by mass unrest and internal stability \n\n\nThe government that replaces Khamenei's"
] |
>
No duh | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising.",
">\n\nOkay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up?",
">\n\nConsidering Ukraine has also committed tons of war crimes as well, all NATO countries giving weapons should take responsibility. /s\nThey are just threatening Iran, lol. You are not responsible for what people do with your weapons sold. You know, I never heard of a war without war crimes, neither a society without crimes at all, it's part of human nature.",
">\n\n^^(Speculation)\n\n\nRussia government is tied to the Khamenei regime \n\n\nKhamenei's power is threatened by mass unrest and internal stability \n\n\nThe government that replaces Khamenei's",
">\n\nReally too bad US overplayed it’s hands in 2003. Iran checks all the boxes for a bit of Lockheed Martin freedom."
] |
>
/r/noshitsherlock | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising.",
">\n\nOkay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up?",
">\n\nConsidering Ukraine has also committed tons of war crimes as well, all NATO countries giving weapons should take responsibility. /s\nThey are just threatening Iran, lol. You are not responsible for what people do with your weapons sold. You know, I never heard of a war without war crimes, neither a society without crimes at all, it's part of human nature.",
">\n\n^^(Speculation)\n\n\nRussia government is tied to the Khamenei regime \n\n\nKhamenei's power is threatened by mass unrest and internal stability \n\n\nThe government that replaces Khamenei's",
">\n\nReally too bad US overplayed it’s hands in 2003. Iran checks all the boxes for a bit of Lockheed Martin freedom.",
">\n\nNo duh"
] |
>
Ok now .
Im 100% on the side of ukraine and her allies but …. Literally every country that manufactures weapons and sells them to a country is not liable for how those weapons are used .
If that was the case then im sure the US would also be liable for war crimes by someone .
Thats not saying i think iran should be supplying russia because no they are peices of shit who took the wrong wide but This logic is kinda dumb . | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising.",
">\n\nOkay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up?",
">\n\nConsidering Ukraine has also committed tons of war crimes as well, all NATO countries giving weapons should take responsibility. /s\nThey are just threatening Iran, lol. You are not responsible for what people do with your weapons sold. You know, I never heard of a war without war crimes, neither a society without crimes at all, it's part of human nature.",
">\n\n^^(Speculation)\n\n\nRussia government is tied to the Khamenei regime \n\n\nKhamenei's power is threatened by mass unrest and internal stability \n\n\nThe government that replaces Khamenei's",
">\n\nReally too bad US overplayed it’s hands in 2003. Iran checks all the boxes for a bit of Lockheed Martin freedom.",
">\n\nNo duh",
">\n\n/r/noshitsherlock"
] |
>
So what, it’s not like anyone is going to do anything about it. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising.",
">\n\nOkay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up?",
">\n\nConsidering Ukraine has also committed tons of war crimes as well, all NATO countries giving weapons should take responsibility. /s\nThey are just threatening Iran, lol. You are not responsible for what people do with your weapons sold. You know, I never heard of a war without war crimes, neither a society without crimes at all, it's part of human nature.",
">\n\n^^(Speculation)\n\n\nRussia government is tied to the Khamenei regime \n\n\nKhamenei's power is threatened by mass unrest and internal stability \n\n\nThe government that replaces Khamenei's",
">\n\nReally too bad US overplayed it’s hands in 2003. Iran checks all the boxes for a bit of Lockheed Martin freedom.",
">\n\nNo duh",
">\n\n/r/noshitsherlock",
">\n\nOk now . \nIm 100% on the side of ukraine and her allies but …. Literally every country that manufactures weapons and sells them to a country is not liable for how those weapons are used . \nIf that was the case then im sure the US would also be liable for war crimes by someone . \nThats not saying i think iran should be supplying russia because no they are peices of shit who took the wrong wide but This logic is kinda dumb ."
] |
>
May be? Oh, ffs 😤. | [
"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising.",
">\n\nOkay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up?",
">\n\nConsidering Ukraine has also committed tons of war crimes as well, all NATO countries giving weapons should take responsibility. /s\nThey are just threatening Iran, lol. You are not responsible for what people do with your weapons sold. You know, I never heard of a war without war crimes, neither a society without crimes at all, it's part of human nature.",
">\n\n^^(Speculation)\n\n\nRussia government is tied to the Khamenei regime \n\n\nKhamenei's power is threatened by mass unrest and internal stability \n\n\nThe government that replaces Khamenei's",
">\n\nReally too bad US overplayed it’s hands in 2003. Iran checks all the boxes for a bit of Lockheed Martin freedom.",
">\n\nNo duh",
">\n\n/r/noshitsherlock",
">\n\nOk now . \nIm 100% on the side of ukraine and her allies but …. Literally every country that manufactures weapons and sells them to a country is not liable for how those weapons are used . \nIf that was the case then im sure the US would also be liable for war crimes by someone . \nThats not saying i think iran should be supplying russia because no they are peices of shit who took the wrong wide but This logic is kinda dumb .",
">\n\nSo what, it’s not like anyone is going to do anything about it."
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"\"May.\"",
">\n\nLike the weatherman's, \"It may rain tomorrow\"?",
">\n\nTo surprise of nobody",
">\n\nEurope is the one providing military and economic aid as well as taking good care of millions of refugees. EU would be enable to do any of that if energy crisis was worse. Not to mention Ukraine's pipeline network keeps Russian gas flowing to Europe and Ukraine receives \\~$2-3b in transit fees for it.",
">\n\nAnd that last mention supposed to shift a bit of blame on Ukraine? Oh do tell, how swiftly aid for Ukraine would cease to exist, if Ukraine decided to stop transition, pretty much dooming Europe to search for alternatives ASAP. Or, how would people feel about supporting \"those pieces of shit that decided to freeze us\".",
">\n\nThe opposite. Last mention is supposed to show how stupid \"still trading with Russia = also at fault\" logic is. Ukraine can't cut Russian gas going to Europe for the exact same reason European leaders can't cut it themselves. It harms the economy, it harms people, it would reduce public support for Ukraine and it's a fast-track to far-right governments.",
">\n\nOh, my apologies for jumping to conclusions.",
">\n\nGermany has stopped importing Russian gas altogether.",
">\n\n\nIt comes as the US and European partners are looking to further ostracize both nations in the court of public opinion\n\nOh, you don't say",
">\n\nNot for lack of reason",
">\n\nJust because Russia and Iran don't need help making themselves look bad doesn't mean we can't help them.",
">\n\nThis. Sometimes you have to be the better person, go that extra mile.",
">\n\nWelp, sounds like we need some oil. Strap in folks.",
">\n\nGet the rip its ready.",
">\n\nMAY be? So they aren't sure yet?",
">\n\nWeird to broadcast to the public a statement so evidently incorrect. Perhaps the MAY is a warning that an IS is coming and when the IS arrives it will come a grumpy expression. \"Watch out Iran there may be definite words on the horizon and you may be in range of our disdain. Take cover, disdain may be imminent.\"",
">\n\nI don't think that government that lives and thrives under sanctions for decades, and executes everyone who speaks against it cares about IS. They are quite certain that trade with other scummy governments will be enough.",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 41%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nWhile it did not signal a policy shift, the charge marked some of the sharpest US rhetoric against Iran since it began providing weapons to Russia to support its nearly year-long war in Ukraine.\nSullivan said Iran had chosen \"To go down a road where their weapons are being used to kill civilians in Ukraine and to try to plunge cities into cold and darkness, which, from our point of view, puts Iran in a place where it could potentially be contributing to widespread war crimes.\"\nSullivan pointed to European and US sanctions on Iran put in place after the US exposed Iran's weapons sales to Russia last year as examples of how they are trying to \"Make these transactions more difficult.\" But he acknowledged that \"The way that they are actually carrying them out physically makes physical interdiction a challenge.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Iran^#1 Russia^#2 weapons^#3 Sullivan^#4 Ukraine^#5",
">\n\nSullivan is a war criminal and so is the USA government including the president. Delivering weapons to a criminal country full of extremist right-wingers.",
">\n\nIraq vibes intensify",
">\n\nIranian drones are Iranian Drones. Russia is using Iranian drones to attack civilians and civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nWoosh like so many Iranian drones over your head.",
">\n\nI’m not sure what joke is going over my head. Someone else mentioned Bush, which I can only assume they’re referencing Bush lying about Iraq.",
">\n\nIt was the main reason for the invasion. I still don't understand why they came up with that bullshit excuse. If they had just outright said that Saddam had committed X or Y crimes against humanity, that would have been more than enough justification. I guess they didn't want to alienate their allies who sometimes also commit crimes against humanity. \nBecause of this, the US will never be credible; no matter what they say, it's always going to be assumed to be false until proven otherwise.",
">\n\nThe drones have already been proven to be Iranian. The only thing in question and the reason for the “May” is that there’s a level of plausible deniability when you supply weapons to another country that you’re supplying it for military purposes and not for the purpose of attacking civilians. The US is saying that they believe Iran knows the purpose is to attack civilians, but also doesn’t want to say it outright since the US doesn’t want to create a standard of “you’re guilty if it’s your weapons”.",
">\n\nIf you contribute weapons to a war zone, you’re contributing to war crimes. Everyone acts like war crimes are a one sided thing. There’s a reason why the losers are the only ones to ever see the rope.",
">\n\nLike the US care about war crimes lol...",
">\n\nThey really think times of Israel care bout warcrimes aswell 🤣🤣🤣",
">\n\nWeapons of mass destruction?!",
">\n\nOk, we'll bring out the white powder.",
">\n\nThe US has been contributing to war crimes the last 22 years…",
">\n\nIt has, still more than worth calling it out when the other countries get in on it though.",
">\n\nWell if there's anybody who would know about war crimes it's the US.",
">\n\nAnd the US no??\nThe country who invaded more countries in this century.....\nAhhahahhahahahaa",
">\n\nUS really needs to stop calling other countries out on war crimes. It's so spider man pointing at spider man meme.",
">\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case. Maybe George Bush would want to go to the Netherlands to argue the case.",
">\n\n\nIf you sell a product that you know is being used against civilians as in killing them there just might be a war crimes case.°\n\nBy that logic American gun companies are responsible for school shootings.",
">\n\nCircle gets the square.",
">\n\nI want you to explain how it is you think these are two different things.",
">\n\nDid they bomb a Doctor's Without Borders hospital?",
">\n\nThere “may” be weapons one mass destruction",
">\n\nThe US and throwing shade on Iran, name a better pair.\nI’m from the US, and I hate Iran’s government, but this is pretty blatant capitalization on popular sentiment for propaganda.",
">\n\nwow .. must be a busy year for Iran. How do they find time committing war crimes when they are so busy murdering girls for how they wore their hair?",
">\n\nIran sells drones to Russia that it's been using on Ukrainians. Makes perfect sense to me. \nThose who sell weapons to evil nations have blood on their hands. It's a damn good thing we don't... Oh... Oh no...",
">\n\nThey are kind of known for their crimes against humanity.",
">\n\nMaybe be true or not. Iran is still a fucked up place.",
">\n\nWe should take their oil to show them a lesson.",
">\n\nIs this how we get in to Iran and stop them from executing their own citizens for protesting? Thought the backdoor in Ukraine?",
">\n\nDoes this apply to selling weapons to Saudi for use in Yeman?",
">\n\nNo kidding",
">\n\nIt's time to send the Iranian people HIMARS.",
">\n\nAnd im sure it somehow cost millions of tax dollars to come to that conclusion.\nEdit: To be clear I am pro Ukraine, I just dont understand why we have to waste time and money stating the obvious. Id like to see more action.",
">\n\n. . . they are literally executing their own people.",
">\n\nThe US can't talk about war crimes while the Hague act is still in place for starters. Then they can answer for their war crimes previously committed and ongoing - Then maybe someone could take what they said partially seriously.",
">\n\nI mean the Iranian bastard government is selling drones to Russia. Everyone knows this it’s not surprising.",
">\n\nOkay Jake, so what are you going to recommend be done about it if it was that pertinent for your department to bring it up?",
">\n\nConsidering Ukraine has also committed tons of war crimes as well, all NATO countries giving weapons should take responsibility. /s\nThey are just threatening Iran, lol. You are not responsible for what people do with your weapons sold. You know, I never heard of a war without war crimes, neither a society without crimes at all, it's part of human nature.",
">\n\n^^(Speculation)\n\n\nRussia government is tied to the Khamenei regime \n\n\nKhamenei's power is threatened by mass unrest and internal stability \n\n\nThe government that replaces Khamenei's",
">\n\nReally too bad US overplayed it’s hands in 2003. Iran checks all the boxes for a bit of Lockheed Martin freedom.",
">\n\nNo duh",
">\n\n/r/noshitsherlock",
">\n\nOk now . \nIm 100% on the side of ukraine and her allies but …. Literally every country that manufactures weapons and sells them to a country is not liable for how those weapons are used . \nIf that was the case then im sure the US would also be liable for war crimes by someone . \nThats not saying i think iran should be supplying russia because no they are peices of shit who took the wrong wide but This logic is kinda dumb .",
">\n\nSo what, it’s not like anyone is going to do anything about it.",
">\n\nMay be? Oh, ffs 😤."
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This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)
China officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile "Zero COVID" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.
"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.".
A review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.
Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5 | [] |
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Vaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5"
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Very absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?"
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God forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications."
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During the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well."
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Potato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own."
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At the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason."
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What's an "unofficial" death? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death."
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Basically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?"
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In short... nobody knows whats the real count | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand."
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Basically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count"
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At that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias."
] |
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Why does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long
Edit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China."
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Why in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?
So strange! | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?"
] |
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It wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.
Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long
I didn't "miss" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!"
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Lol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:
1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.
2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.
3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.
Again, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet.
We can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement."
] |
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Just to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.
2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.
You didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate.
How do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?
You don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego."
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"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune..." | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs."
] |
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On behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\""
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I'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults.
These are choices. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks."
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It seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices."
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Tell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially."
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If I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works."
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Yes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?"
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Is it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead."
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One million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population... | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?"
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Sure, but it would also be one million dead people. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population..."
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10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness! | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people."
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Not sure if child or sociopath. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!"
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Porque no los dos? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath."
] |
>
The worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is.
Some of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.
Other things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so.
And supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid.
Granted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?"
] |
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Those numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there."
] |
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I'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation."
] |
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"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy"
"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID" | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily."
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They had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\""
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A large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.
CCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price."
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That portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one."
] |
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Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.
IIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective."
] |
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Way higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.
While official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.
My uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later.
This was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.
Hospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.
They’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.
Complete shitshow. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through"
] |
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You live in a fantasy world | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow."
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"Unofficial?" Where do they think they are - Florida? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world"
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That's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.
So weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?"
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Lol authoritarianism strikes again | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it."
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The CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again"
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The CCP should have swallowed their pride
I can't think of any precedent for this happening. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines."
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You mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening."
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That zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run... | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?"
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They could have vaccinated the whole population.
Instead the did nothing. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?",
">\n\nThat zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run..."
] |
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They couldn’t afford our vaccines and didn’t want to have access to the vaccine weaponized by the West. Under those circumstances, they did the best they could. Unfortunately, we Americans aren’t the only nation populated by idiots who couldn’t handle a lockdown and their lockdowns made ours look like a walk in the park. Their morons couldn’t take the abuse and rioted much like our morons did (ours had it easier but morons are gonna moron). So China decided that rather than foment a revolution and go broke at the same time they’d just say screw it and open the place up. Which was probably not the best of ideas.
On the bright side, once a lot of people die they won’t have as many citizens to deal with. That’s only a bright side if you have a very cynical view about the value of human life, of course. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?",
">\n\nThat zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run...",
">\n\nThey could have vaccinated the whole population.\nInstead the did nothing."
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It’s fucked up but doesn’t this kind of help their problem of having a mostly elderly population? Since I’m assuming most of these deaths are elderly patients. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?",
">\n\nThat zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run...",
">\n\nThey could have vaccinated the whole population.\nInstead the did nothing.",
">\n\nThey couldn’t afford our vaccines and didn’t want to have access to the vaccine weaponized by the West. Under those circumstances, they did the best they could. Unfortunately, we Americans aren’t the only nation populated by idiots who couldn’t handle a lockdown and their lockdowns made ours look like a walk in the park. Their morons couldn’t take the abuse and rioted much like our morons did (ours had it easier but morons are gonna moron). So China decided that rather than foment a revolution and go broke at the same time they’d just say screw it and open the place up. Which was probably not the best of ideas.\nOn the bright side, once a lot of people die they won’t have as many citizens to deal with. That’s only a bright side if you have a very cynical view about the value of human life, of course."
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Even that number is probably grossly underestimated. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?",
">\n\nThat zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run...",
">\n\nThey could have vaccinated the whole population.\nInstead the did nothing.",
">\n\nThey couldn’t afford our vaccines and didn’t want to have access to the vaccine weaponized by the West. Under those circumstances, they did the best they could. Unfortunately, we Americans aren’t the only nation populated by idiots who couldn’t handle a lockdown and their lockdowns made ours look like a walk in the park. Their morons couldn’t take the abuse and rioted much like our morons did (ours had it easier but morons are gonna moron). So China decided that rather than foment a revolution and go broke at the same time they’d just say screw it and open the place up. Which was probably not the best of ideas.\nOn the bright side, once a lot of people die they won’t have as many citizens to deal with. That’s only a bright side if you have a very cynical view about the value of human life, of course.",
">\n\nIt’s fucked up but doesn’t this kind of help their problem of having a mostly elderly population? Since I’m assuming most of these deaths are elderly patients."
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I heard this was expected. When China locked everyone in, they seemed to not experience the same amount of covid deaths as, say, the US. But they were doomed if they ever opened up, which they would have to do at some point. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?",
">\n\nThat zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run...",
">\n\nThey could have vaccinated the whole population.\nInstead the did nothing.",
">\n\nThey couldn’t afford our vaccines and didn’t want to have access to the vaccine weaponized by the West. Under those circumstances, they did the best they could. Unfortunately, we Americans aren’t the only nation populated by idiots who couldn’t handle a lockdown and their lockdowns made ours look like a walk in the park. Their morons couldn’t take the abuse and rioted much like our morons did (ours had it easier but morons are gonna moron). So China decided that rather than foment a revolution and go broke at the same time they’d just say screw it and open the place up. Which was probably not the best of ideas.\nOn the bright side, once a lot of people die they won’t have as many citizens to deal with. That’s only a bright side if you have a very cynical view about the value of human life, of course.",
">\n\nIt’s fucked up but doesn’t this kind of help their problem of having a mostly elderly population? Since I’m assuming most of these deaths are elderly patients.",
">\n\nEven that number is probably grossly underestimated."
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So China reaches goals of depopulation faster & scares the rest of the world all at the same time. Win win for China | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?",
">\n\nThat zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run...",
">\n\nThey could have vaccinated the whole population.\nInstead the did nothing.",
">\n\nThey couldn’t afford our vaccines and didn’t want to have access to the vaccine weaponized by the West. Under those circumstances, they did the best they could. Unfortunately, we Americans aren’t the only nation populated by idiots who couldn’t handle a lockdown and their lockdowns made ours look like a walk in the park. Their morons couldn’t take the abuse and rioted much like our morons did (ours had it easier but morons are gonna moron). So China decided that rather than foment a revolution and go broke at the same time they’d just say screw it and open the place up. Which was probably not the best of ideas.\nOn the bright side, once a lot of people die they won’t have as many citizens to deal with. That’s only a bright side if you have a very cynical view about the value of human life, of course.",
">\n\nIt’s fucked up but doesn’t this kind of help their problem of having a mostly elderly population? Since I’m assuming most of these deaths are elderly patients.",
">\n\nEven that number is probably grossly underestimated.",
">\n\nI heard this was expected. When China locked everyone in, they seemed to not experience the same amount of covid deaths as, say, the US. But they were doomed if they ever opened up, which they would have to do at some point."
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Chinese protested like crazy to end the lockdowns so the lockdowns ended. Now 5000 a day are dying. Maybe this should be posted in r/LeapardsAteMyFace. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?",
">\n\nThat zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run...",
">\n\nThey could have vaccinated the whole population.\nInstead the did nothing.",
">\n\nThey couldn’t afford our vaccines and didn’t want to have access to the vaccine weaponized by the West. Under those circumstances, they did the best they could. Unfortunately, we Americans aren’t the only nation populated by idiots who couldn’t handle a lockdown and their lockdowns made ours look like a walk in the park. Their morons couldn’t take the abuse and rioted much like our morons did (ours had it easier but morons are gonna moron). So China decided that rather than foment a revolution and go broke at the same time they’d just say screw it and open the place up. Which was probably not the best of ideas.\nOn the bright side, once a lot of people die they won’t have as many citizens to deal with. That’s only a bright side if you have a very cynical view about the value of human life, of course.",
">\n\nIt’s fucked up but doesn’t this kind of help their problem of having a mostly elderly population? Since I’m assuming most of these deaths are elderly patients.",
">\n\nEven that number is probably grossly underestimated.",
">\n\nI heard this was expected. When China locked everyone in, they seemed to not experience the same amount of covid deaths as, say, the US. But they were doomed if they ever opened up, which they would have to do at some point.",
">\n\nSo China reaches goals of depopulation faster & scares the rest of the world all at the same time. Win win for China"
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China is also waging an economic war against Japan and Korea because arent openly allowing Chinese vacationers in. Yeah, no thanks China. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?",
">\n\nThat zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run...",
">\n\nThey could have vaccinated the whole population.\nInstead the did nothing.",
">\n\nThey couldn’t afford our vaccines and didn’t want to have access to the vaccine weaponized by the West. Under those circumstances, they did the best they could. Unfortunately, we Americans aren’t the only nation populated by idiots who couldn’t handle a lockdown and their lockdowns made ours look like a walk in the park. Their morons couldn’t take the abuse and rioted much like our morons did (ours had it easier but morons are gonna moron). So China decided that rather than foment a revolution and go broke at the same time they’d just say screw it and open the place up. Which was probably not the best of ideas.\nOn the bright side, once a lot of people die they won’t have as many citizens to deal with. That’s only a bright side if you have a very cynical view about the value of human life, of course.",
">\n\nIt’s fucked up but doesn’t this kind of help their problem of having a mostly elderly population? Since I’m assuming most of these deaths are elderly patients.",
">\n\nEven that number is probably grossly underestimated.",
">\n\nI heard this was expected. When China locked everyone in, they seemed to not experience the same amount of covid deaths as, say, the US. But they were doomed if they ever opened up, which they would have to do at some point.",
">\n\nSo China reaches goals of depopulation faster & scares the rest of the world all at the same time. Win win for China",
">\n\nChinese protested like crazy to end the lockdowns so the lockdowns ended. Now 5000 a day are dying. Maybe this should be posted in r/LeapardsAteMyFace."
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Yet in the UK we are letting them come in as long as they test. They don't have to isolate if positive though, it's just to get an idea of numbers.
I'm just waiting for our numbers to show again. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nChina officially attributes just 5,200 deaths to COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, including fewer than 40 COVID deaths since Beijing lifted President Xi Jinping's strict but ultimately futile \"Zero COVID\" strategy Dec. 7, The Washington Post reported Monday night.\n\"Projections made by international experts put the real death toll closer to 5,000 people each day, with several models predicting more than 1 million COVID deaths in China in 2023.\".\nA review of satellite images, videos posted to China's version of TikTok, and interviews with mourning relatives and overworked morgue workers affirm the surge in deaths.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: COVID^#1 China^#2 Post^#3 death^#4 pandemic^#5",
">\n\nVaccine contraband? The fuck is going on with this dystopia plot?",
">\n\nVery absurd. Vaccine contraband = any non Chinese made COVID vaccines/medications.",
">\n\nGod forbid that anyone should use a vaccine that works well.",
">\n\nDuring the Cold War, the U.S. offered aid under the Marshall plan to ALL affected countries. The soviet union rejected this aid for all countries under its sphere of influence. That's right, they basically rejected free money, because helping the people was never the goal. The goal was to expand their control. So they couldn't allow anyone else to help, even if they couldn't manage on their own - no especially if they couldn't manage on their own.",
">\n\nPotato famine wouldn’t have been as dire if the English queen didn’t block the food the Spanish king was trying to get into port and to the Irish for the same reason.",
">\n\nAt the height of the great hunger, there were more food exports leaving the country than foreign aid entering. The Irish weren’t allowed to eat the food they were farming for the English under penalty of death.",
">\n\nWhat's an \"unofficial\" death?",
">\n\nBasically the difference in what the government reports and what locals/foreigners are witnessing first hand.",
">\n\nIn short... nobody knows whats the real count",
">\n\nBasically, and us trying to pretend this is any more factual is just us confirming our bias.",
">\n\nAt that rate, it would take 773 years and 8 months or so to entirely depopulate China.",
">\n\nWhy does Reddit seem to think Western vaccines are the answer? Those (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\nEdit: to people confused by rhetorical questions I’m asking how can Western vaccines be the answer when the people who would benefit from these vaccines (the elderly) are clearly antivax and would never actually take them?",
">\n\nWhy in the would would someone think that a working vaccine is the answer to a disease?\nSo strange!",
">\n\nIt wasn't though, it was a pretty fucking obvious response to a stupid question.\n\nThose (mostly elderly) people in China who are unvaccinated are hardly going to be rushing out to get a Western vaccine if they have resisted getting vaccinated this long\n\nI didn't \"miss\" answering a question you didn't ask. You made a statement.",
">\n\nLol, Chloe. You might want to check out that definition yourself. Here, I'll make it easy for you:\n1) A question to which no answer is expected, often used for rhetorical effect.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n3) A question to which the asker does not expect an answer.\nAgain, you didn't ask a question, so I'm not sure how you were asking a question that you weren't expecting an answer to without actually asking the question. Sorry if you haven't made it through high school English yet. \nWe can be done now. I have no desire to continue fighting with your ego.",
">\n\n\nJust to be clear - definition 2 fits my usage. I asked a rhetorical question to set the grounds for my actual question.\n2) A question posed only for dramatic or persuasive effect.\n\nYou didn't ask a fucking question. This isn't that hard to understand and you're clearly not dumb. Reel in the ego, you're allowing it to make you look stupid and obstinate. \n\nHow do you convince people to get vaccinated who have resisted vaccination for the past 2 years?\n\nYou don't. That is natural selection. Same as it was with the idiots in the US who died in droves to own the libs.",
">\n\n\"The circle of life...its the wheel of fortune...\"",
">\n\nOn behalf of all Americans, I would like to return our wheel, it seems we have nothing but natural disasters and political infighting and corruption. I am requesting exchange for a wheel with a higher chance of landing on peaceful negotiation and fewer children shooting teachers/being shot while in school. Thanks.",
">\n\nI'm American. I travel a lot end up feeling grateful for what I have in Massachusetts. Our covid vacines work , the Chinese made kind don't even work. That's the problem or one of them. The Chinese gov won't buy Pfizer or whatever American or European brand vacines that do work at least somewhat. We had no lock downs ever. No one was sealed in their homes ever. After unemployment kicked in , it was ok. I went to Greece last year, there was no unemployment ever for some. Massachusetts has a lot people with guns. In really sane places like EU countries, no one legally has a gun just lying around on a coffee table at home. No kid grabs it if the parents know enough to never own a gun . That is totally preventable by decent government and just decent adults. \nThese are choices.",
">\n\nIt seems very few old people have the vacines though too. I don't think I trust the Chinese government on their data either. Do you ? Not on if it works or how many people have it. If it's not an mrna vacine especially.",
">\n\nTell me why they are trying to lie? Everybody has different methods of counting. CCP is in control of mainland China. If all they did was bullshit, they wouldn't be a rich country. It's stupid to think we all good and they are all evil. That's not how the world works.",
">\n\nIf I am unofficially dead do I still have to come to work?",
">\n\nYes but it's unofficial so you won't get paid. And if you make your boss mad he will make you officially dead and won't have to worry about consequences because you are already dead.",
">\n\nIs it that brutal of a winter when they have 1.4 billion people?",
">\n\nOne million covid deaths in China would be less than 0.1% of their population...",
">\n\nSure, but it would also be one million dead people.",
">\n\n10 million people die in China EVERY YEAR! When will someone do something to stop the madness!",
">\n\nNot sure if child or sociopath.",
">\n\nPorque no los dos?",
">\n\nThe worst part is that 5000 a day is still a low ball number of how bad it is. \nSome of the stuff Ive seen suggests that the crematoriums are having to handle anywhere from 10,000 to 20,000 bodies a day, with a normal capacity of only about 4000.\nOther things estimate that between 300m-600m infections have happened in the past month or so. \nAnd supposedly this recent surge is bad enough that even senior officials with access to the best and somewhat ethically concerning medical practices they have available are still getting done in by covid. \nGranted, any kind of accurate info about the severity of what is going on in china is hard to come by, and everyone everywhere has some kind of agenda they are trying to push, but things aren’t looking good over there.",
">\n\nThose numbers seem crazy high, pretty unbelievable if you ask me. Can we just accept the fact that we don't know without crazy speculation? I mean, this is no better than the disinformation that the Chinese government is putting out. Just because it confirms your bias (China bad, COVID bad) doesn't mean it's alright to push misinformation.",
">\n\nI'm having flashbacks to mid-pandemic when Reddit was convinced China was cremating 20% of its entire population daily.",
">\n\n\"China must stop locking up its citizens for its Zero COVID policy\"\n\"China is letting 5,000 people a day die due to COVID\"",
">\n\nThey had several years to vaccinate and perform clinic trials for their vaccine and foreign alternatives theres no real excuse for this. They used a vaccine with poor efficiency just because it was made by their government and are paying the price.",
">\n\nA large portion of China's vulnerable population has been fed propaganda that western medicine is evil and will hurt them.\nCCP really knew how to put themselves between a rock and a hard place on this one.",
">\n\nThat portion is not taking Chinese vaccines either. They are just anti-vax. Can't do shit either way. Plus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.",
">\n\n\nPlus Chinese Vax would stop hospitalization either way and are effective.\n\nIIRC the Sinovac formula only had a portion of Western efficacy. Still a lot of leeway for an infection to break through",
">\n\nWay higher. Beijing alone is probably 5000/day.\nWhile official Chinese news has been mute in the subject, anybody with family back in China knows how bad it is.\nMy uncle just died of COVID in China. Went to the hospital with mild symptoms and the doctor straight up told him to get his affairs in order as he’s as good as dead. Plopped him in a bed in some room, zero care, zero medication. He died a few days later. \nThis was Shanghai and he was a retired government worker with good benefits.\nHospitals are full, no medication available anywhere, and crematoriums are so backed up the government is burning bodies in steel foundries in bulk.\nThey’ve been using industrial freezers meant for meat to store dead bodies.\nComplete shitshow.",
">\n\nYou live in a fantasy world",
">\n\n\"Unofficial?\" Where do they think they are - Florida?",
">\n\nThat's like a 1.8M unofficial death per year rate. But I guess China will go through covid quickly since they're all getting it basically.\nSo weird that they spent years doing everything to avoid covid and then some people protested so they let everyone get it.",
">\n\nLol authoritarianism strikes again",
">\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride and purchase Western MRNA vaccines.",
">\n\n\nThe CCP should have swallowed their pride\n\nI can't think of any precedent for this happening.",
">\n\nYou mean like when they backed off their Zero COVID policy after sufficient public sentiment was expressed against this? The one that Xi and the government made a cornerstone of their domestic and foreign policy?",
">\n\nThat zero covid policy really fucked them, in the long run...",
">\n\nThey could have vaccinated the whole population.\nInstead the did nothing.",
">\n\nThey couldn’t afford our vaccines and didn’t want to have access to the vaccine weaponized by the West. Under those circumstances, they did the best they could. Unfortunately, we Americans aren’t the only nation populated by idiots who couldn’t handle a lockdown and their lockdowns made ours look like a walk in the park. Their morons couldn’t take the abuse and rioted much like our morons did (ours had it easier but morons are gonna moron). So China decided that rather than foment a revolution and go broke at the same time they’d just say screw it and open the place up. Which was probably not the best of ideas.\nOn the bright side, once a lot of people die they won’t have as many citizens to deal with. That’s only a bright side if you have a very cynical view about the value of human life, of course.",
">\n\nIt’s fucked up but doesn’t this kind of help their problem of having a mostly elderly population? Since I’m assuming most of these deaths are elderly patients.",
">\n\nEven that number is probably grossly underestimated.",
">\n\nI heard this was expected. When China locked everyone in, they seemed to not experience the same amount of covid deaths as, say, the US. But they were doomed if they ever opened up, which they would have to do at some point.",
">\n\nSo China reaches goals of depopulation faster & scares the rest of the world all at the same time. Win win for China",
">\n\nChinese protested like crazy to end the lockdowns so the lockdowns ended. Now 5000 a day are dying. Maybe this should be posted in r/LeapardsAteMyFace.",
">\n\nChina is also waging an economic war against Japan and Korea because arent openly allowing Chinese vacationers in. Yeah, no thanks China."
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