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Another good one is I Am Legend. It's a bit different than the source material, the CGI kind of sucks but...
He manages to play his character perfectly: >!He truly embodied a military scientist who lost his family, remained behind to cure the plague and gradually lost his sanity. Seeing him interacting with mannequins like they were real people, even freaking out at one that was moved, he truly did feel like he was on the brink of insanity.!<
As you said, he isn't a "master class" type actor, he isn't a Leonardo DiCaprio's, becoming an entirely different person, but he's damned good at whatever he does | [
"Lol I don’t know why this amused me, maybe just so random and obscure an opinion. \nI saw iRobot once when it first came out",
">\n\nAnd only once. For good reason.",
">\n\nAs subjective as this topic is, I'm going with Hitch. Cute, fun, silly ,easy. That's the Will Smith I grew up with.",
">\n\nCan an opinion not be subjective?",
">\n\nIt always is",
">\n\nRewatched it last year: fucking terrible movie. I think Smith is incredibly overated, but his best performance is absolutely Ali.",
">\n\nIdk man I am Legend is pretty up there",
">\n\nIMO The pursuit of happyness is way better",
">\n\nI don't think this is necessarily unpopular. It was one of his best performances.",
">\n\nI thought it was meh, generic American badass cop movie. I thought the action was well done though. Sometimes I like to turn off my brain and watch dumb movies or anime, or watch them to gather ideas and start making my own mini movie/show in my head.",
">\n\nAs far as Will Smith goes, I thought \"Hancock\" was a pretty good movie.",
">\n\nIt was good but the whole wife thing killed it for me",
">\n\nLegit. Shoulda just stuck with the drunk superman and give him some kind of weird villian to deal with. The movie dies after the sister thing.",
">\n\n“Bright” I thought was fairly well done. It was definitely dystopian enough.",
">\n\nDid anyone else think OP was making an oath?",
">\n\nI always liked that movie as a kid. It’s just a nice detective movie."
] |
>
That movie was garbage. Have my upvote. | [
"Lol I don’t know why this amused me, maybe just so random and obscure an opinion. \nI saw iRobot once when it first came out",
">\n\nAnd only once. For good reason.",
">\n\nAs subjective as this topic is, I'm going with Hitch. Cute, fun, silly ,easy. That's the Will Smith I grew up with.",
">\n\nCan an opinion not be subjective?",
">\n\nIt always is",
">\n\nRewatched it last year: fucking terrible movie. I think Smith is incredibly overated, but his best performance is absolutely Ali.",
">\n\nIdk man I am Legend is pretty up there",
">\n\nIMO The pursuit of happyness is way better",
">\n\nI don't think this is necessarily unpopular. It was one of his best performances.",
">\n\nI thought it was meh, generic American badass cop movie. I thought the action was well done though. Sometimes I like to turn off my brain and watch dumb movies or anime, or watch them to gather ideas and start making my own mini movie/show in my head.",
">\n\nAs far as Will Smith goes, I thought \"Hancock\" was a pretty good movie.",
">\n\nIt was good but the whole wife thing killed it for me",
">\n\nLegit. Shoulda just stuck with the drunk superman and give him some kind of weird villian to deal with. The movie dies after the sister thing.",
">\n\n“Bright” I thought was fairly well done. It was definitely dystopian enough.",
">\n\nDid anyone else think OP was making an oath?",
">\n\nI always liked that movie as a kid. It’s just a nice detective movie.",
">\n\nAnother good one is I Am Legend. It's a bit different than the source material, the CGI kind of sucks but...\nHe manages to play his character perfectly: >!He truly embodied a military scientist who lost his family, remained behind to cure the plague and gradually lost his sanity. Seeing him interacting with mannequins like they were real people, even freaking out at one that was moved, he truly did feel like he was on the brink of insanity.!<\nAs you said, he isn't a \"master class\" type actor, he isn't a Leonardo DiCaprio's, becoming an entirely different person, but he's damned good at whatever he does"
] |
>
His best movie was Hitch, miss the good old days of romantic comedies | [
"Lol I don’t know why this amused me, maybe just so random and obscure an opinion. \nI saw iRobot once when it first came out",
">\n\nAnd only once. For good reason.",
">\n\nAs subjective as this topic is, I'm going with Hitch. Cute, fun, silly ,easy. That's the Will Smith I grew up with.",
">\n\nCan an opinion not be subjective?",
">\n\nIt always is",
">\n\nRewatched it last year: fucking terrible movie. I think Smith is incredibly overated, but his best performance is absolutely Ali.",
">\n\nIdk man I am Legend is pretty up there",
">\n\nIMO The pursuit of happyness is way better",
">\n\nI don't think this is necessarily unpopular. It was one of his best performances.",
">\n\nI thought it was meh, generic American badass cop movie. I thought the action was well done though. Sometimes I like to turn off my brain and watch dumb movies or anime, or watch them to gather ideas and start making my own mini movie/show in my head.",
">\n\nAs far as Will Smith goes, I thought \"Hancock\" was a pretty good movie.",
">\n\nIt was good but the whole wife thing killed it for me",
">\n\nLegit. Shoulda just stuck with the drunk superman and give him some kind of weird villian to deal with. The movie dies after the sister thing.",
">\n\n“Bright” I thought was fairly well done. It was definitely dystopian enough.",
">\n\nDid anyone else think OP was making an oath?",
">\n\nI always liked that movie as a kid. It’s just a nice detective movie.",
">\n\nAnother good one is I Am Legend. It's a bit different than the source material, the CGI kind of sucks but...\nHe manages to play his character perfectly: >!He truly embodied a military scientist who lost his family, remained behind to cure the plague and gradually lost his sanity. Seeing him interacting with mannequins like they were real people, even freaking out at one that was moved, he truly did feel like he was on the brink of insanity.!<\nAs you said, he isn't a \"master class\" type actor, he isn't a Leonardo DiCaprio's, becoming an entirely different person, but he's damned good at whatever he does",
">\n\nThat movie was garbage. Have my upvote."
] |
>
The best Will Smith movie is Shazam with Shaquille O’Neal. | [
"Lol I don’t know why this amused me, maybe just so random and obscure an opinion. \nI saw iRobot once when it first came out",
">\n\nAnd only once. For good reason.",
">\n\nAs subjective as this topic is, I'm going with Hitch. Cute, fun, silly ,easy. That's the Will Smith I grew up with.",
">\n\nCan an opinion not be subjective?",
">\n\nIt always is",
">\n\nRewatched it last year: fucking terrible movie. I think Smith is incredibly overated, but his best performance is absolutely Ali.",
">\n\nIdk man I am Legend is pretty up there",
">\n\nIMO The pursuit of happyness is way better",
">\n\nI don't think this is necessarily unpopular. It was one of his best performances.",
">\n\nI thought it was meh, generic American badass cop movie. I thought the action was well done though. Sometimes I like to turn off my brain and watch dumb movies or anime, or watch them to gather ideas and start making my own mini movie/show in my head.",
">\n\nAs far as Will Smith goes, I thought \"Hancock\" was a pretty good movie.",
">\n\nIt was good but the whole wife thing killed it for me",
">\n\nLegit. Shoulda just stuck with the drunk superman and give him some kind of weird villian to deal with. The movie dies after the sister thing.",
">\n\n“Bright” I thought was fairly well done. It was definitely dystopian enough.",
">\n\nDid anyone else think OP was making an oath?",
">\n\nI always liked that movie as a kid. It’s just a nice detective movie.",
">\n\nAnother good one is I Am Legend. It's a bit different than the source material, the CGI kind of sucks but...\nHe manages to play his character perfectly: >!He truly embodied a military scientist who lost his family, remained behind to cure the plague and gradually lost his sanity. Seeing him interacting with mannequins like they were real people, even freaking out at one that was moved, he truly did feel like he was on the brink of insanity.!<\nAs you said, he isn't a \"master class\" type actor, he isn't a Leonardo DiCaprio's, becoming an entirely different person, but he's damned good at whatever he does",
">\n\nThat movie was garbage. Have my upvote.",
">\n\nHis best movie was Hitch, miss the good old days of romantic comedies"
] |
> | [
"Lol I don’t know why this amused me, maybe just so random and obscure an opinion. \nI saw iRobot once when it first came out",
">\n\nAnd only once. For good reason.",
">\n\nAs subjective as this topic is, I'm going with Hitch. Cute, fun, silly ,easy. That's the Will Smith I grew up with.",
">\n\nCan an opinion not be subjective?",
">\n\nIt always is",
">\n\nRewatched it last year: fucking terrible movie. I think Smith is incredibly overated, but his best performance is absolutely Ali.",
">\n\nIdk man I am Legend is pretty up there",
">\n\nIMO The pursuit of happyness is way better",
">\n\nI don't think this is necessarily unpopular. It was one of his best performances.",
">\n\nI thought it was meh, generic American badass cop movie. I thought the action was well done though. Sometimes I like to turn off my brain and watch dumb movies or anime, or watch them to gather ideas and start making my own mini movie/show in my head.",
">\n\nAs far as Will Smith goes, I thought \"Hancock\" was a pretty good movie.",
">\n\nIt was good but the whole wife thing killed it for me",
">\n\nLegit. Shoulda just stuck with the drunk superman and give him some kind of weird villian to deal with. The movie dies after the sister thing.",
">\n\n“Bright” I thought was fairly well done. It was definitely dystopian enough.",
">\n\nDid anyone else think OP was making an oath?",
">\n\nI always liked that movie as a kid. It’s just a nice detective movie.",
">\n\nAnother good one is I Am Legend. It's a bit different than the source material, the CGI kind of sucks but...\nHe manages to play his character perfectly: >!He truly embodied a military scientist who lost his family, remained behind to cure the plague and gradually lost his sanity. Seeing him interacting with mannequins like they were real people, even freaking out at one that was moved, he truly did feel like he was on the brink of insanity.!<\nAs you said, he isn't a \"master class\" type actor, he isn't a Leonardo DiCaprio's, becoming an entirely different person, but he's damned good at whatever he does",
">\n\nThat movie was garbage. Have my upvote.",
">\n\nHis best movie was Hitch, miss the good old days of romantic comedies",
">\n\nThe best Will Smith movie is Shazam with Shaquille O’Neal."
] |
Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable. | [] |
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Brittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable."
] |
>
This is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable."
] |
>
wow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever.
it's getting so frustrating. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out."
] |
>
Habe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating."
] |
>
No. Tell me more | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal"
] |
>
More time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more"
] |
>
Sad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades."
] |
>
That’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got."
] |
>
System working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses."
] |
>
Wasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else."
] |
>
Top 10 in the country | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs."
] |
>
They honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%.
Dude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country"
] |
>
The dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.
Also it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes."
] |
>
They gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit."
] |
>
Brittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy."
] |
>
If the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark"
] |
>
Except the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it."
] |
>
Why would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k… | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together."
] |
>
Greed. Someone always has more. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…"
] |
>
What? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more."
] |
>
Not all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money"
] |
>
Has anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams? | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid."
] |
>
Did he lose the $75k? | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?"
] |
>
So he's still homeless I'm guessing. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?"
] |
>
Got sent to rehab. Basically win win | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing."
] |
>
Yet the former president scams a whole country and nothing? | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win"
] |
>
We're working on it | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?"
] |
>
Do this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it"
] |
>
She will do more time than SBF. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine."
] |
>
Maybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF."
] |
>
Yep, wily old bastard died in prison | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes."
] |
>
I remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison"
] |
>
Wish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans"
] |
>
Serious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies."
] |
>
First, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated).
Second, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit.
The other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose."
] |
>
Thanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs."
] |
>
I knew the story was nonsense the day i read it. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions."
] |
>
So she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it."
] |
>
Read the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off."
] |
>
Maybe if people paid less attention to social media.... | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money."
] |
>
Great work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media...."
] |
>
Maybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?
I'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy."
] |
>
It’s fraud | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy.",
">\n\nMaybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?\nI'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise."
] |
>
Now I'm wondering about the romance writer Susan Meachen who faked her death on social media and had people donate to her gofundme for funeral expenses and her family. That's pretty egregious and while I doubt anyone would get any money back I wonder if there are grounds to sue for fraud. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy.",
">\n\nMaybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?\nI'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise.",
">\n\nIt’s fraud"
] |
>
Based on this, absolutely she should be in prison. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy.",
">\n\nMaybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?\nI'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise.",
">\n\nIt’s fraud",
">\n\nNow I'm wondering about the romance writer Susan Meachen who faked her death on social media and had people donate to her gofundme for funeral expenses and her family. That's pretty egregious and while I doubt anyone would get any money back I wonder if there are grounds to sue for fraud."
] |
>
Makes me wonder though, why the finders of the failed Coup haven’t seen any jail time | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy.",
">\n\nMaybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?\nI'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise.",
">\n\nIt’s fraud",
">\n\nNow I'm wondering about the romance writer Susan Meachen who faked her death on social media and had people donate to her gofundme for funeral expenses and her family. That's pretty egregious and while I doubt anyone would get any money back I wonder if there are grounds to sue for fraud.",
">\n\nBased on this, absolutely she should be in prison."
] |
>
3 years seems extremely light to me but I suppose it's reasonable. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy.",
">\n\nMaybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?\nI'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise.",
">\n\nIt’s fraud",
">\n\nNow I'm wondering about the romance writer Susan Meachen who faked her death on social media and had people donate to her gofundme for funeral expenses and her family. That's pretty egregious and while I doubt anyone would get any money back I wonder if there are grounds to sue for fraud.",
">\n\nBased on this, absolutely she should be in prison.",
">\n\nMakes me wonder though, why the finders of the failed Coup haven’t seen any jail time"
] |
>
Gov't sponsored scams weren't available for comment | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy.",
">\n\nMaybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?\nI'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise.",
">\n\nIt’s fraud",
">\n\nNow I'm wondering about the romance writer Susan Meachen who faked her death on social media and had people donate to her gofundme for funeral expenses and her family. That's pretty egregious and while I doubt anyone would get any money back I wonder if there are grounds to sue for fraud.",
">\n\nBased on this, absolutely she should be in prison.",
">\n\nMakes me wonder though, why the finders of the failed Coup haven’t seen any jail time",
">\n\n3 years seems extremely light to me but I suppose it's reasonable."
] |
>
Too bad she didn’t also try to overthrow the government. She could have gotten a blanket pardon. | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy.",
">\n\nMaybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?\nI'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise.",
">\n\nIt’s fraud",
">\n\nNow I'm wondering about the romance writer Susan Meachen who faked her death on social media and had people donate to her gofundme for funeral expenses and her family. That's pretty egregious and while I doubt anyone would get any money back I wonder if there are grounds to sue for fraud.",
">\n\nBased on this, absolutely she should be in prison.",
">\n\nMakes me wonder though, why the finders of the failed Coup haven’t seen any jail time",
">\n\n3 years seems extremely light to me but I suppose it's reasonable.",
">\n\nGov't sponsored scams weren't available for comment"
] |
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3 years in prison in exchange for $400,000??? I’d take that deal!! | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy.",
">\n\nMaybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?\nI'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise.",
">\n\nIt’s fraud",
">\n\nNow I'm wondering about the romance writer Susan Meachen who faked her death on social media and had people donate to her gofundme for funeral expenses and her family. That's pretty egregious and while I doubt anyone would get any money back I wonder if there are grounds to sue for fraud.",
">\n\nBased on this, absolutely she should be in prison.",
">\n\nMakes me wonder though, why the finders of the failed Coup haven’t seen any jail time",
">\n\n3 years seems extremely light to me but I suppose it's reasonable.",
">\n\nGov't sponsored scams weren't available for comment",
">\n\nToo bad she didn’t also try to overthrow the government. She could have gotten a blanket pardon."
] |
> | [
"Good, hopefully Brittany Dawn is next. The state of Texas is suing her for scamming many with her “fitness plans.” She “helped” a homeless man with his alcoholism by raising around 25k on gofundme but… Who knows where it went? She transitioned to running a trendy Christian ministry that charges hundreds and also is “fostering” babies while monetizing them for her content. Would love to see her held accountable.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn is terrible and I really hope her GFM scheme, as well as allllll the other awful things she does, gets more attention soon. The recent monetized fostering was unbelievable.",
">\n\nThis is the lady from the heartwarming story of a homeless vet giving his money to help her out.",
">\n\nwow. that story was so believable too. this is the kind of shit that makes me more and more jaded when i hear stories about people falling on hard times or whatever. \nit's getting so frustrating.",
">\n\nHabe you heard of the charities that keep 99.9%? And its legal",
">\n\nNo. Tell me more",
">\n\nMore time in prison than the bankers that crashed our economy multiple times in the past two decades.",
">\n\nSad but true. That Wells Fargo exec who peed on a woman mid-flight will get more time for that than anyone got.",
">\n\nThat’s what still fucking infuriates me. None of them got any punishment for the lives the destroyed. My dad is working in his 70s because his retirement 401k practically disappeared. None of them got anything but a fucking bailout to save their asses.",
">\n\nSystem working as intended. It's in their best interest to not go after each other all the time, at the expense of everyone else.",
">\n\nWasn't that a relatively small player though? They never did anything to the big name execs.",
">\n\nTop 10 in the country",
">\n\nThey honestly would have gotten away with it if that had given the dude like 75%. \nDude probably would have been happy and they got a bunch of cash. Their next worry would be explaining it on taxes.",
">\n\nThe dude was in on the scam, so it's hard to say if he would have ever been happy and not just chased for more money.\nAlso it's not unlikely the gofundme by itself is enough to settle the tax question. Very few situations actually get a full investigated audit.",
">\n\nThey gave the dude 20% and he wanted more. I bet if they had either split it 50/50 or given the majority he would have been happy.",
">\n\nBrittany Dawn has entered the chat. /r/brittanydawnsnark",
">\n\nIf the couple hadn't gotten greedy and had given the homeless guy his full share, they probably would have gotten away with it.",
">\n\nExcept the homeless man was also charged and took part in the fraudulent act but must have decided that 75k wasn't enough when he heard how much the go fund me really made. They're all greedy and stupid together.",
">\n\nWhy would you turn them in when you’re homeless and you can get $75k…",
">\n\nGreed. Someone always has more.",
">\n\nWhat? Getting 75k is a once in a lifetime occurrence. Homeless dude should have just accepted the money",
">\n\nNot all homeless people are just unlucky and unfortunate. Some are just really stupid.",
">\n\nHas anyone ever gotten away with one of these donation scams?",
">\n\nDid he lose the $75k?",
">\n\nSo he's still homeless I'm guessing.",
">\n\nGot sent to rehab. Basically win win",
">\n\nYet the former president scams a whole country and nothing?",
">\n\nWe're working on it",
">\n\nDo this as a regular person, get prison time. Do this on wallstreet, get congratulated by your peers and maybe pay a “cost of doing business” fine.",
">\n\nShe will do more time than SBF.",
">\n\nMaybe not. Bernie Madoff got a 150-year sentence for his financial crimes.",
">\n\nYep, wily old bastard died in prison",
">\n\nI remember this and remember when the homeless man sued them. They're despicable people for lying to so many just so they can buy expensive cars and handbags and go to Vegas. Awful humans",
">\n\nWish this law would apply to politicians that blatantly lie about their resumes. After all, they raised a lot of money with those lies.",
">\n\nSerious question: How is this different from the BLM Foundation (Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation) that collected millions after the George Floyd murder and then bought multiple million dollar homes with some of the money? I'm sure no donor expected their cash to be used for that purpose.",
">\n\nFirst, this woman was dumb enough to attach her name to it. You incorporate and you have more protections (nonprofit entities are typically incorporated). \nSecond, idk all the ins and outs of this story in its entirety but there are at least two scenarios off the top of my head that would allow for the BLM org get away with it. The first is that the BLM ceo gets paid a fat salary. The irs is only going to investigate and sanction a nonprofit that is paying a ceo exorbitantly more than other CEOs of a similar sized nonprofit. \nThe other scenario is that the org bought the mansion and used it as a headquarters. This wouldn’t even raise any red flags since places need to have brick and mortar operations and there isn’t much difference between an expensive downtown Manhattan office and a mansion in price, but the location can be justified as it’s a grassroots movement and needs the space and to be need the suburbs.",
">\n\nThanks for a good reply. Yes, the BLM case is more nuanced and their corp status allows some discretion in how the funds were/are spent. I'm not obsessed on it but general press reporting rasies questions on corp malfeasance. I think a good comparison is the current SBF (the crypto guy) investigation, just that he was dealing in billions and BLM got millions.",
">\n\nI knew the story was nonsense the day i read it.",
">\n\nSo she's basically earning $133 grand a year for 3 years off in taxpayer funded food and shelter program. Not a bad trade-off.",
">\n\nRead the ruling (or at least the article); she has to pay back all the money.",
">\n\nMaybe if people paid less attention to social media....",
">\n\nGreat work. Now with this on her resume she fits as a future Republican. The dogs of democracy.",
">\n\nMaybe a dumb question: why is this a crime? It's a really horrible thing to do, but don't people lie to other people to get money all the time?\nI'm thinking specifically about politicians and what they say to fundraise.",
">\n\nIt’s fraud",
">\n\nNow I'm wondering about the romance writer Susan Meachen who faked her death on social media and had people donate to her gofundme for funeral expenses and her family. That's pretty egregious and while I doubt anyone would get any money back I wonder if there are grounds to sue for fraud.",
">\n\nBased on this, absolutely she should be in prison.",
">\n\nMakes me wonder though, why the finders of the failed Coup haven’t seen any jail time",
">\n\n3 years seems extremely light to me but I suppose it's reasonable.",
">\n\nGov't sponsored scams weren't available for comment",
">\n\nToo bad she didn’t also try to overthrow the government. She could have gotten a blanket pardon.",
">\n\n3 years in prison in exchange for $400,000??? I’d take that deal!!"
] |
There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.
Life can get really dark sometimes. | [] |
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What the absolute fuck? | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes."
] |
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Seriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?"
] |
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This makes me want to never have kids. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck."
] |
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If they come out bad just smother them | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids."
] |
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Eat them to regain all the precious nutrients | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them"
] |
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This is so sad, a family was just torn apart. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients"
] |
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These sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart."
] |
>
I think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.
There are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.
I dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)
A 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying."
] |
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Violent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades.
But now we literally hear about every single crime. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news"
] |
>
I heard it was rising back up since the pandemic? | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime."
] |
>
yea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?"
] |
>
I've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels."
] |
>
Its the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.
Its all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and "if it bleeds it leads" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous."
] |
>
Exactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing."
] |
>
While I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings?
I feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with"
] |
>
You used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.
If we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole."
] |
>
Shit's getting pretty goddamn bleak. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem."
] |
>
There are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak."
] |
>
Like a rain of poison that never stops | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth."
] |
>
I think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops"
] |
>
How many of those murderous children received head injuries prior? | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior."
] |
>
Awful.
At least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?"
] |
>
These people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note."
] |
>
Not a great couple of days for American children, is it? | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work"
] |
>
Part of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?"
] |
>
I don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior."
] |
>
The poor parents. Damn | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here."
] |
>
We assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn"
] |
>
Your comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes.
Your common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior."
] |
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I know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior."
] |
>
I'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).
Unfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target."
] |
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Holy fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently? | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up."
] |
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Parents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?"
] |
>
Parent is a verb, as my mom use to say.
We've glossed over parenting as something anyone can do and doesn't require much effort - just money. Parenting is intense sh*t that requires huge amounts of skill, dedication, commitment and sacrifice - but it's not something valued at all by society.
When a child murders someone - something went wrong somewhere. Maybe there were signs ignored by the parents. Maybe too permissive in what was allowed to be watched / gotten away with. Maybe refusal to see their kid needed outside help. Maybe there was abuse or neglect. Could be any one of dozens of causes or multiple causes combined that led to this tragedy.
I'm not blaming the parents per se. But I believe that there is a solid 90% chance that with better advice, guidance and resources provided to the parents - and then excellent parenting skills used regarding this child over their upbringing - that this wouldn't have happened.
Parents are definitely human. We mess up. We fail. We don't know what we don't know. But waving hands in the air thinking that the parents choices/behaviors had no part in this is bad - same as thinking that they were 100% responsible. The truth falls inbetween. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?",
">\n\nParents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age."
] |
>
but why am I hearing about multiple a month or attempts a month
Because there is a 24 hour news cycle to fill and it's easier than ever for this information to fling around, and with ads paying the bills these types of stories get more attention than feel-good stories.
Violent crime per capita is down significantly from past decades. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?",
">\n\nParents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age.",
">\n\nParent is a verb, as my mom use to say.\nWe've glossed over parenting as something anyone can do and doesn't require much effort - just money. Parenting is intense sh*t that requires huge amounts of skill, dedication, commitment and sacrifice - but it's not something valued at all by society.\nWhen a child murders someone - something went wrong somewhere. Maybe there were signs ignored by the parents. Maybe too permissive in what was allowed to be watched / gotten away with. Maybe refusal to see their kid needed outside help. Maybe there was abuse or neglect. Could be any one of dozens of causes or multiple causes combined that led to this tragedy.\nI'm not blaming the parents per se. But I believe that there is a solid 90% chance that with better advice, guidance and resources provided to the parents - and then excellent parenting skills used regarding this child over their upbringing - that this wouldn't have happened. \nParents are definitely human. We mess up. We fail. We don't know what we don't know. But waving hands in the air thinking that the parents choices/behaviors had no part in this is bad - same as thinking that they were 100% responsible. The truth falls inbetween."
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Normally, you wouldn't think of using weapons in sibling fights. This is so sad an event. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?",
">\n\nParents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age.",
">\n\nParent is a verb, as my mom use to say.\nWe've glossed over parenting as something anyone can do and doesn't require much effort - just money. Parenting is intense sh*t that requires huge amounts of skill, dedication, commitment and sacrifice - but it's not something valued at all by society.\nWhen a child murders someone - something went wrong somewhere. Maybe there were signs ignored by the parents. Maybe too permissive in what was allowed to be watched / gotten away with. Maybe refusal to see their kid needed outside help. Maybe there was abuse or neglect. Could be any one of dozens of causes or multiple causes combined that led to this tragedy.\nI'm not blaming the parents per se. But I believe that there is a solid 90% chance that with better advice, guidance and resources provided to the parents - and then excellent parenting skills used regarding this child over their upbringing - that this wouldn't have happened. \nParents are definitely human. We mess up. We fail. We don't know what we don't know. But waving hands in the air thinking that the parents choices/behaviors had no part in this is bad - same as thinking that they were 100% responsible. The truth falls inbetween.",
">\n\n\nbut why am I hearing about multiple a month or attempts a month\n\nBecause there is a 24 hour news cycle to fill and it's easier than ever for this information to fling around, and with ads paying the bills these types of stories get more attention than feel-good stories.\nViolent crime per capita is down significantly from past decades."
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Nothing like a desensitised child to hear about fucked up shit. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?",
">\n\nParents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age.",
">\n\nParent is a verb, as my mom use to say.\nWe've glossed over parenting as something anyone can do and doesn't require much effort - just money. Parenting is intense sh*t that requires huge amounts of skill, dedication, commitment and sacrifice - but it's not something valued at all by society.\nWhen a child murders someone - something went wrong somewhere. Maybe there were signs ignored by the parents. Maybe too permissive in what was allowed to be watched / gotten away with. Maybe refusal to see their kid needed outside help. Maybe there was abuse or neglect. Could be any one of dozens of causes or multiple causes combined that led to this tragedy.\nI'm not blaming the parents per se. But I believe that there is a solid 90% chance that with better advice, guidance and resources provided to the parents - and then excellent parenting skills used regarding this child over their upbringing - that this wouldn't have happened. \nParents are definitely human. We mess up. We fail. We don't know what we don't know. But waving hands in the air thinking that the parents choices/behaviors had no part in this is bad - same as thinking that they were 100% responsible. The truth falls inbetween.",
">\n\n\nbut why am I hearing about multiple a month or attempts a month\n\nBecause there is a 24 hour news cycle to fill and it's easier than ever for this information to fling around, and with ads paying the bills these types of stories get more attention than feel-good stories.\nViolent crime per capita is down significantly from past decades.",
">\n\nNormally, you wouldn't think of using weapons in sibling fights. This is so sad an event."
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We are born into a world of demons. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?",
">\n\nParents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age.",
">\n\nParent is a verb, as my mom use to say.\nWe've glossed over parenting as something anyone can do and doesn't require much effort - just money. Parenting is intense sh*t that requires huge amounts of skill, dedication, commitment and sacrifice - but it's not something valued at all by society.\nWhen a child murders someone - something went wrong somewhere. Maybe there were signs ignored by the parents. Maybe too permissive in what was allowed to be watched / gotten away with. Maybe refusal to see their kid needed outside help. Maybe there was abuse or neglect. Could be any one of dozens of causes or multiple causes combined that led to this tragedy.\nI'm not blaming the parents per se. But I believe that there is a solid 90% chance that with better advice, guidance and resources provided to the parents - and then excellent parenting skills used regarding this child over their upbringing - that this wouldn't have happened. \nParents are definitely human. We mess up. We fail. We don't know what we don't know. But waving hands in the air thinking that the parents choices/behaviors had no part in this is bad - same as thinking that they were 100% responsible. The truth falls inbetween.",
">\n\n\nbut why am I hearing about multiple a month or attempts a month\n\nBecause there is a 24 hour news cycle to fill and it's easier than ever for this information to fling around, and with ads paying the bills these types of stories get more attention than feel-good stories.\nViolent crime per capita is down significantly from past decades.",
">\n\nNormally, you wouldn't think of using weapons in sibling fights. This is so sad an event.",
">\n\nNothing like a desensitised child to hear about fucked up shit."
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Are you stupid? A lot of people think you're stupid. | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?",
">\n\nParents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age.",
">\n\nParent is a verb, as my mom use to say.\nWe've glossed over parenting as something anyone can do and doesn't require much effort - just money. Parenting is intense sh*t that requires huge amounts of skill, dedication, commitment and sacrifice - but it's not something valued at all by society.\nWhen a child murders someone - something went wrong somewhere. Maybe there were signs ignored by the parents. Maybe too permissive in what was allowed to be watched / gotten away with. Maybe refusal to see their kid needed outside help. Maybe there was abuse or neglect. Could be any one of dozens of causes or multiple causes combined that led to this tragedy.\nI'm not blaming the parents per se. But I believe that there is a solid 90% chance that with better advice, guidance and resources provided to the parents - and then excellent parenting skills used regarding this child over their upbringing - that this wouldn't have happened. \nParents are definitely human. We mess up. We fail. We don't know what we don't know. But waving hands in the air thinking that the parents choices/behaviors had no part in this is bad - same as thinking that they were 100% responsible. The truth falls inbetween.",
">\n\n\nbut why am I hearing about multiple a month or attempts a month\n\nBecause there is a 24 hour news cycle to fill and it's easier than ever for this information to fling around, and with ads paying the bills these types of stories get more attention than feel-good stories.\nViolent crime per capita is down significantly from past decades.",
">\n\nNormally, you wouldn't think of using weapons in sibling fights. This is so sad an event.",
">\n\nNothing like a desensitised child to hear about fucked up shit.",
">\n\nWe are born into a world of demons."
] |
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Children 12 and under can not be charged with a crime in Maryland | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?",
">\n\nParents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age.",
">\n\nParent is a verb, as my mom use to say.\nWe've glossed over parenting as something anyone can do and doesn't require much effort - just money. Parenting is intense sh*t that requires huge amounts of skill, dedication, commitment and sacrifice - but it's not something valued at all by society.\nWhen a child murders someone - something went wrong somewhere. Maybe there were signs ignored by the parents. Maybe too permissive in what was allowed to be watched / gotten away with. Maybe refusal to see their kid needed outside help. Maybe there was abuse or neglect. Could be any one of dozens of causes or multiple causes combined that led to this tragedy.\nI'm not blaming the parents per se. But I believe that there is a solid 90% chance that with better advice, guidance and resources provided to the parents - and then excellent parenting skills used regarding this child over their upbringing - that this wouldn't have happened. \nParents are definitely human. We mess up. We fail. We don't know what we don't know. But waving hands in the air thinking that the parents choices/behaviors had no part in this is bad - same as thinking that they were 100% responsible. The truth falls inbetween.",
">\n\n\nbut why am I hearing about multiple a month or attempts a month\n\nBecause there is a 24 hour news cycle to fill and it's easier than ever for this information to fling around, and with ads paying the bills these types of stories get more attention than feel-good stories.\nViolent crime per capita is down significantly from past decades.",
">\n\nNormally, you wouldn't think of using weapons in sibling fights. This is so sad an event.",
">\n\nNothing like a desensitised child to hear about fucked up shit.",
">\n\nWe are born into a world of demons.",
">\n\nAre you stupid? A lot of people think you're stupid."
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Sounds like we need new knife policies! | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?",
">\n\nParents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age.",
">\n\nParent is a verb, as my mom use to say.\nWe've glossed over parenting as something anyone can do and doesn't require much effort - just money. Parenting is intense sh*t that requires huge amounts of skill, dedication, commitment and sacrifice - but it's not something valued at all by society.\nWhen a child murders someone - something went wrong somewhere. Maybe there were signs ignored by the parents. Maybe too permissive in what was allowed to be watched / gotten away with. Maybe refusal to see their kid needed outside help. Maybe there was abuse or neglect. Could be any one of dozens of causes or multiple causes combined that led to this tragedy.\nI'm not blaming the parents per se. But I believe that there is a solid 90% chance that with better advice, guidance and resources provided to the parents - and then excellent parenting skills used regarding this child over their upbringing - that this wouldn't have happened. \nParents are definitely human. We mess up. We fail. We don't know what we don't know. But waving hands in the air thinking that the parents choices/behaviors had no part in this is bad - same as thinking that they were 100% responsible. The truth falls inbetween.",
">\n\n\nbut why am I hearing about multiple a month or attempts a month\n\nBecause there is a 24 hour news cycle to fill and it's easier than ever for this information to fling around, and with ads paying the bills these types of stories get more attention than feel-good stories.\nViolent crime per capita is down significantly from past decades.",
">\n\nNormally, you wouldn't think of using weapons in sibling fights. This is so sad an event.",
">\n\nNothing like a desensitised child to hear about fucked up shit.",
">\n\nWe are born into a world of demons.",
">\n\nAre you stupid? A lot of people think you're stupid.",
">\n\nChildren 12 and under can not be charged with a crime in Maryland"
] |
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I bet this was just a plot by the NRA to make knives look bad.
Too soon? :P | [
"There was actually just a case I watched on Dr. G where a girl smothered a 2 year old and an infant and the people of Bexar County Texas refused to believe a child was capable of this kind of evil. Then she went to live with her grandmother and smothered her dog which led to the grandmother turning her in to the police.\nLife can get really dark sometimes.",
">\n\nWhat the absolute fuck?",
">\n\nSeriously this makes me want to just curl up. Fuck.",
">\n\nThis makes me want to never have kids.",
">\n\nIf they come out bad just smother them",
">\n\nEat them to regain all the precious nutrients",
">\n\nThis is so sad, a family was just torn apart.",
">\n\nThese sorts of horrible stories have been around a while, but for some reason they now seem extra worrying.",
">\n\nI think absorbing the entirety of the Country's and World's horrible News stories, across all 8 Billion of us makes the shit seem out of whack and like things are more frequent than they used to be.\nThere are nearly 350 Million peoppe in the US.....thats a lot of lives to find fucked up stories in.\nI dont think most crimes are any worse or more frequent that they ever were, we just hear about them more because we are so connected (save shootings...we have a real fucking problem there)\nA 16yo kid(maybe 17) I went to high-school with in the mid 90s killed both his grandparents with a hammer, beat their heads to mush while they were sleeping and then burned the house down...they found him hiding in a dumpster behind a Kmart(or maybe it was a Jamesway, IDR) covered in blood.....I bet no one outside of my state heard about that, and i bet even a ton of people in the state didnt even hear about it...if that happened today it would be national news",
">\n\nViolent crime (Including shootings) has actually been plummeting downward statistically for the last couple of decades. \nBut now we literally hear about every single crime.",
">\n\nI heard it was rising back up since the pandemic?",
">\n\nyea back to 2019 levels, not 1970s levels.",
">\n\nI've moved around a lot in my adulthood and I'm always fascinated by local stories of completely fucked shit that happened in the days before Internet and the 24 hour news channels in these areas that would likely have never been more than a blurb in national news; things that would been front page news for days in those areas, and maybe would've hit a couple paragraphs on page nine elsewhere. A lot of stories that now get national or worldwide coverage fall into that category. For instance, the guy in Mass that searched how to dispose of a 115 lb woman's body wouldn't be heard much further away than maybe Connecticut and Maine. The Idaho murders might have got coverage within a couple hundred miles of there, and maybe where the guy was found in PA (if he would even have been caught back then). Even in the 90s it's unlikely someone in, say, Arizona would have even possibly been made aware of any of those things. It's definitely a contributing factor in why, even though the world is getting statistically safer, it feels more dangerous.",
">\n\nIts the internet and 24h news that makes it seem like we have a historically bad crime epidemic. Agree fully.\nIts all because they all need constant content 24h a day, 7d a week, 365d a year, and \"if it bleeds it leads\" is a real thing and that boils down to pure human nature and negative feedback bias which is a real thing.",
">\n\nExactly. And to add further examples, just look at the slew of crime documentaries like on Netflix, etc. There's just so many from the early 90s and before that most people had never heard about. Whole seasons of shows covering the ones that might have been little more than regional news at the time. Hell, I sat and watched one episode a while back (my wife drew me in because it was where I grew up and was during my middle school years) that was pretty huge news at the time. Everyone knew a ton about it... where I grew up. She'd never heard about it. That's when it clicked. I was like, yeah, I guess it wasn't something a newspaper over a thousand miles away would've bothered with",
">\n\nWhile I understand everything you all are saying, but is the idea of social media influence, and younger generations feeling more alone than ever not something to worry about, or...all the shootings? \nI feel like we are experiencing more shootings in schools and the like, or do you also try and make that sound like it's merely the 24hr news coverage? There are DEFNITELY more guns in America than in the 70s correct? More shootings, correct? I can't seem to square that hole.",
">\n\nYou used to be able to bring firearms to school without issue and keep them locked up in your vehicle, or participate in shooting clubs/competition.\nIf we weren't shooting each other in schools when we were able to do that, but we're doing it now, it's not a problem with the number of firearms. It's the intersection of social media and a nationwide, 24/7 news cycle and firearms that is the problem.",
">\n\nShit's getting pretty goddamn bleak.",
">\n\nThere are over 8 billion humans on earth. We need to stop hearing about everything bad that happens everywhere - it's poisoning us. Most of us are far safer than we would have been in any prior time - but we are constantly bombarded with bad news from every town and city on earth.",
">\n\nLike a rain of poison that never stops",
">\n\nI think the idea children can’t be psychopaths is just doctors throwing their hands up in air because it’s too complex of an issue to be able to say with certainty, supposedly the brain doesn’t stop developing until one’s early 20s. I’m sure the reality is that there are a minority of cases in which you know a 10 year is old is always going to be a horrible person that has to pretend to care about others in order to function, and that’s tragic, but I don’t see people ever really admitting this and basing treatment on it, simply because of how much danger it puts the majority of children who can rehabilitated in. Being diagnosed with something like this is no joke and humans rely a lot on learned behavior.",
">\n\nHow many of those murderous children received head injuries prior?",
">\n\nAwful.\nAt least the parents did the right thing and didn't cover it up with a fake ransom note.",
">\n\nThese people live in an apartment. If they were wealthy the ransom note would work",
">\n\nNot a great couple of days for American children, is it?",
">\n\nPart of me thinks this girl was abused. Not many 12 year old actively want to kill their siblings. A house of violence and abuse could trigger this type of behavior.",
">\n\nI don’t understand how you got downvoted, what you say is absolutely true. Unless of course there is mental illness going on here.",
">\n\nThe poor parents. Damn",
">\n\nWe assume young children are capable of feeling love, affection, gratitude, loyalty, etc, but not hatred, envy, resentment or anger? I think the door swings both ways and we've traditionally relied on family culture to avoid such instances of monstrosity. When I was growing up with several siblings, we were constantly reminded that violence is not an acceptable means of resolving disputes. As a consequence, our minds were unlikely to consider physical harm to our antagonists as an acceptable remedy. The college-age daughter of a friend was recently assigned to student teach first grade at an inner-city school in Minneapolis. She left after two weeks out of fear and frustration. Most of the school children communicated their wants and needs through violent acts: pushing, punching, using other objects as weapons. When parents were consulted (which seldom occurred because they don't make themselves available), the parents usually expressed indifference. No doubt the same behavior is typical in the home, including interactions between children and the parents. I've no expertise in child psychology, but common sense tells me violence is learned behavior.",
">\n\nYour comment comes off as a bit classist and racist for assuming inner city parents teach their kids to act violently. Sibling fight because of violent tendencies they were born with, not because their parent taught them to fight. Children can be taught to fight, but for most, they are actually trained not to express themselves physically, especially once they have the ability to use words. Kids whose parents have to work multiple jobs to afford basic survival- which is the case for many inner city children, don't get the same level of attention (behavior guidance) from their parents or caregivers when compared to peers from higher socioeconomic classes. \nYour common sense needs an upgrade because you're ignorant about the roots of violent behavior.",
">\n\nI know you want to appear enlightened and put me down as a racist as a self-aggrandizing measure, but please pull your head out of your ass for a moment and actually read what I wrote, then read your response. I didn't state or infer that inner city kids are innately violent by nature. I didn't say the children are taught violence in the home, only that violence is permitted to occur, contrary to the environment in which I grew up. In fact, I explicitly stated my siblings and I were TAUGHT not to act out in violence - in other words, our natural instincts to use violence were suppressed by our parents. Your response is precisely along the same lines. The only difference is your explanation that inner city kids' parents can't commit the same attention to their children relative to other demographics. So what? My point, which remains unrefuted, is children as human beings are capable of expressing negative emotions in horrifying ways. Next time you want to be self-righteous, pick a better target.",
">\n\nI'm glad your parents had the time and patience to teach you right from wrong - and that the lessons stuck (that's not always the case).\nUnfortunately, inner city parents often struggle a good bit of the day just to keep a roof over their heads and their families fed. In many cases, they don't have any time to interact with their children because they're gone working multiple part time, no benefit jobs from the time they get their kids up until they get home to put them in bed (or even after). And, kids can be crueler than a lot of adults - look it up.",
">\n\nHoly fuck what's with all the kids killing people in American recently?",
">\n\nParents not being parents and possible mental illness, it can manifest at a young age.",
">\n\nParent is a verb, as my mom use to say.\nWe've glossed over parenting as something anyone can do and doesn't require much effort - just money. Parenting is intense sh*t that requires huge amounts of skill, dedication, commitment and sacrifice - but it's not something valued at all by society.\nWhen a child murders someone - something went wrong somewhere. Maybe there were signs ignored by the parents. Maybe too permissive in what was allowed to be watched / gotten away with. Maybe refusal to see their kid needed outside help. Maybe there was abuse or neglect. Could be any one of dozens of causes or multiple causes combined that led to this tragedy.\nI'm not blaming the parents per se. But I believe that there is a solid 90% chance that with better advice, guidance and resources provided to the parents - and then excellent parenting skills used regarding this child over their upbringing - that this wouldn't have happened. \nParents are definitely human. We mess up. We fail. We don't know what we don't know. But waving hands in the air thinking that the parents choices/behaviors had no part in this is bad - same as thinking that they were 100% responsible. The truth falls inbetween.",
">\n\n\nbut why am I hearing about multiple a month or attempts a month\n\nBecause there is a 24 hour news cycle to fill and it's easier than ever for this information to fling around, and with ads paying the bills these types of stories get more attention than feel-good stories.\nViolent crime per capita is down significantly from past decades.",
">\n\nNormally, you wouldn't think of using weapons in sibling fights. This is so sad an event.",
">\n\nNothing like a desensitised child to hear about fucked up shit.",
">\n\nWe are born into a world of demons.",
">\n\nAre you stupid? A lot of people think you're stupid.",
">\n\nChildren 12 and under can not be charged with a crime in Maryland",
">\n\nSounds like we need new knife policies!"
] |
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